Clinton vs trump live debate thread...tremendous event

[goduke]

Fair enough, now WTF do we do?

Not vote. You know the best way to show the politicians and the media that these candidates are unacceptable? Don't vote or if you really have to vote for someone outside of the three. It makes a statement if that vote got the majority

[grease lightnin]

Everyone who is for Hillary thinks she dominated.

Everyone who is for Trump thinks he didn't do enough.

Repeat that back to yourself. What do you come up with?

Fact is, Trump did well to stay (relatively) calm. She hit him with everything, didn't destroy him, and gained no new voters. Trump won because the slow burn continues.

I am still undecided, but definitely leaning Hillary after last night.

Of course I might be wrong - maybe America will take Hillary at her word that she will net 10 million new jobs while Trump will shed 3 1/2 million jobs. That claim is so stupid that no one, not right or left, even talks about it.

I don't know about Hillary adding jobs, but look no further than Moody's Analytics and The US Chamber of Commerce to verify the numbers on Trump. They are spot-on.

Oh and another thing, Assange isn't finished.

Yes I am interested to see what else he has.

[KingJD31]

How could you be undecided at this point? That's puzzling to me, how could someone lean towards Hillary then switch to trump or vice versa

Repeat that back to yourself. What do you come up with?


I am still undecided, but definitely leaning Hillary after last night.



I don't know about Hillary adding jobs, but look no further than Moody's Analytics and The US Chamber of Commerce to verify the numbers on Trump. They are spot-on.



Yes I am interested to see what else he has.

[bigtymer56]

Anybody call Sean Hannity?

[grease lightnin]

How could you be undecided at this point? That's puzzling to me, how could someone lean towards Hillary then switch to trump or vice versa

Well I really don't want to vote for either one.

[rkelly110]

...ironically it perfectly matches the size of your brain

[KingJD31]

That's fair

Well I really don't want to vote for either one.

[khicks26]

Not vote. You know the best way to show the politicians and the media that these candidates are unacceptable? Don't vote or if you really have to vote for someone outside of the three. It makes a statement if that vote got the majority

I am voting for the Green Party.

[ByeShea]

How could you be undecided at this point? That's puzzling to me, how could someone lean towards Hillary then switch to trump or vice versa

He's been a regular on political threads forever - and claiming that after last night is finally leaning for the Hillster.

Next he will tell us he commutes on a unicorn.

[thetrinity]

How could you be undecided at this point? That's puzzling to me, how could someone lean towards Hillary then switch to trump or vice versa

They are so far apart that I kind of agree. It's more about making people who you have get to the polls. I admit, 2012 I was going to vote for Romney but I thought I was wasting my time. Only thing they agreed on a bit was police.

[khicks26]

Anybody call Sean Hannity?

LOL

Minister of Propaganda

[DwightShrute]

[khicks26]

So your a German women that sings in fields?

[thetrinity]

Well I really don't want to vote for either one.

This kind of proves my point. Hillary seems to have more people like this than Trump.

[itchypickle]

So your a German women that sings in fields?

You're assuming someone's gender?? And you call yourself a progressive? He/she/other can be whichever is feeling in the mood right? So offensive you are this morning.

But all jokes aside.....tax returns don't mean much. As long as he didn't do anything illegal I could care less. If he hired and paid accountants and tax lawyers to get his within the law and pay as little as possible...that's a good thing. People act like he filed a basic 1040 online....his are probably more complicated than 95% of tax payers. Hell just his withholding amounts from his thousand of employees at his properties along with the crazy taxes his tenants pay into the system....he's made up for it in my book.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

So your a German women that sings in fields?

He is running from the Nazis, KHicks.

Cut the guy some slack

[khicks26]

You're assuming someone's gender?? And you call yourself a progressive? He/she/other can be whichever is feeling in the mood right? So offensive you are this morning.

But all jokes aside.....tax returns don't mean much. As long as he didn't do anything illegal I could care less. If he hired and paid accountants and tax lawyers to get his within the law and pay as little as possible...that's a good thing. People act like he filed a basic 1040 online....his are probably more complicated than 95% of tax payers. Hell just his withholding amounts from his thousand of employees at his properties along with the crazy taxes his tenants pay into the system....he's made up for it in my book.

I don't give a rats ass about his tax's. I'm more worried about what this clown stands for.

[khicks26]

He is running from the Nazis, KHicks.

Cut the guy some slack

Are you sure he's not running with the Nazi's?

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Are you sure he's not running with the Nazi's?

[khicks26]

Your a good guy MO. Stay hip my brother.

[JIBBBY]

I know she's been fighting ISIS her whole life.

Where has that gotten us today?

Hillary with the years and years of experience, results are nothing gets done and everything gets worse...

Voters can't be that stupid to vote for another 4 years of Obama or can they?

[khicks26]

Where has that gotten us today?

Hillary with the years and years of experience, results are nothing gets done and everything gets worse...

Voters can't just be that stupid to vote for another 4 years of Obama..

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[JIBBBY]

ISIS = convert or die... Just that simple, no negotiating around that...

How can we let this evil spread around the world like it is today?... ISIS didn't even exist until Obama/Hillary pulled our troops out of Iraq and that's the sad thing about this new world threat..

[DwightShrute]

[JIBBBY]

^^ lol...

[khicks26]

ISIS = convert or die... Just that simple, no negotiating around that...

How can we let this evil spread around the world like it is today?... ISIS didn't even exist until Obama/Hillary pulled our troops out of Iraq and that's the sad thing about this new world threat..

Who's evil?

“I KNEW THAT I COULD NEVER AGAIN RAISE MY VOICE AGAINST THE VIOLENCE OF THE OPPRESSED IN THE GHETTOS WITHOUT HAVING FIRST SPOKEN CLEARLY TO THE GREATEST PURVEYOR OF VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD TODAY — MY OWN GOVERNMENT.”

MLK

[thetrinity]

You're assuming someone's gender?? And you call yourself a progressive? He/she/other can be whichever is feeling in the mood right? So offensive you are this morning.

But all jokes aside.....tax returns don't mean much. As long as he didn't do anything illegal I could care less. If he hired and paid accountants and tax lawyers to get his within the law and pay as little as possible...that's a good thing. People act like he filed a basic 1040 online....his are probably more complicated than 95% of tax payers. Hell just his withholding amounts from his thousand of employees at his properties along with the crazy taxes his tenants pay into the system....he's made up for it in my book.

If tax returns were meaningful, politicians would NEVER release them. End of story. I thought he handled that ok. birther and Iraq war he spent too much time defending.

[DwightShrute]

[itchypickle]

I don't give a rats ass about his tax's. I'm more worried about what this clown stands for.

What part of what he stands for do you not like? Lower taxes? Secure borders? Going after an enemy and not caring if harmful words are used to offend their supporters? Enforcement of laws on the books?

[JIBBBY]

If tax returns were meaningful, politicians would NEVER release them. End of story. I thought he handled that ok. birther and Iraq war he spent too much time defending.

Agreed I could care less about Hillary or Trumps tax returns, Obama birth certificate is a dead issue once he showed it...

SO STUPID and meaningless.. Has no impact on the Country's future...

Moderator Lester asked these questions to both Hillary and Trump and kept pounding on it which was complete lunacy and a waste of time..

Why didn't Lester ask about Hilary's deleted emails and the Clinton Foundation? Trump himself had to bring up the emails... One sided...

[khicks26]

What part of what he stands for do you not like? Lower taxes? Secure borders? Going after an enemy and not caring if harmful words are used to offend their supporters? Enforcement of laws on the books?

Post 757.

The message has been the same. Some just don't want to receive the message. Their voting for Trump or Hilary & caught up in the fan fair. Either way its a Police State.

[khicks26]

Excuse me now. I'm going to get lost in the NFL season & forget how fuked up this shit is.

[slambam]

Trump is fukked after last night guys. A retarded money could beat Hillary but this bozo is too stupid.

[grease lightnin]

This kind of proves my point. Hillary seems to have more people like this than Trump.

I believe that is 100% the case. Ask yourself why that is...

[rkelly110]

ISIS = convert or die... Just that simple, no negotiating around that...

How can we let this evil spread around the world like it is today?... ISIS didn't even exist until Obama/Hillary pulled our troops out of Iraq and that's the sad thing about this new world threat..

What part of Iraq NOT wanting ANY troops left behind, don't you understand?