Well, that deal worked out better for Bobby and his agent.
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Dirty Sanchez
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03-01-10
16031
#11
Originally posted by packerd_00
That's nuts what clown thought up this contract.
One of the greatest blunders/moves in Bonilla's contract history...when most guys are broke or wondering where their cash went, he's just getting started on getting yearly checks....brilliant!
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jjgold
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07-20-05
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#12
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Ghenghis Kahn
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01-02-12
19734
#13
gilbert arenas thinks bobby bonilla is getting fukked up the ass with that shitty contract...
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Dirty Sanchez
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03-01-10
16031
#14
Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
gilbert arenas thinks bobby bonilla is getting fukked up the ass with that shitty contract...
Allen Iverson wished he had a contract like BB...dude would be able to at least eat at Taco Bell now
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Roadtrip635
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12-07-10
6129
#15
Still makes more than Russell Wilson
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Ghenghis Kahn
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01-02-12
19734
#16
Originally posted by Roadtrip635
Still makes more than Russell Wilson
russell wilson wants to be the highest paid qb but is that fake jesus fukk really worth that price?
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packerd_00
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05-22-13
17823
#17
Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
One of the greatest blunders/moves in Bonilla's contract history...when most guys are broke or wondering where their cash went, he's just getting started on getting yearly checks....brilliant!
He must have a good laugh about it with his agent I bet
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nyplayer33
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09-27-06
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#18
This is why I don't root for teams n other then occasional betting I don't care v who wins..fans pay for bobby.bonilla lol
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d2bets
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#19
They should get him back in the lineup hitting cleanup. Couldn't do any worse than the current bunch.
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Darkside Magick
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05-28-10
12638
#20
Following the 1999 season, the Mets wanted to buy out the final year of Bonilla's contract. But instead of paying him the $5.9 million he was owed, the two sides agreed to a deferred compensation deal with the Mets paying Bonilla 25 annual payments of $1.2 million starting on July 1, 2011.
On the surface the deal looks laughable for the Mets as the payments will total $29.8 million. However, it is not nearly that simple and the deal was actually a good one for the Mets.
If Bonilla had accepted the $5.9 million in 2000 and invested the entire amount at 8% interest, the original investment would have grown to $104.1 million by 2035* (blue line in chart below). If, instead, Bonilla took his annual payment and invested it with an 8% annual return, he would have $95.2 million by 2035 (orange line in chart below).
In other words, Bonilla lost nearly $10 million in potential earnings by taking the payments instead of the lump sum.
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manny24
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10-22-07
20046
#21
could they even spill him into a uniform?
heard the guy looked like 250 lbs of chewed bubble gum now
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d2bets
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#22
Originally posted by Darkside Magick
Following the 1999 season, the Mets wanted to buy out the final year of Bonilla's contract. But instead of paying him the $5.9 million he was owed, the two sides agreed to a deferred compensation deal with the Mets paying Bonilla 25 annual payments of $1.2 million starting on July 1, 2011.
On the surface the deal looks laughable for the Mets as the payments will total $29.8 million. However, it is not nearly that simple and the deal was actually a good one for the Mets.
If Bonilla had accepted the $5.9 million in 2000 and invested the entire amount at 8% interest, the original investment would have grown to $104.1 million by 2035* (blue line in chart below). If, instead, Bonilla took his annual payment and invested it with an 8% annual return, he would have $95.2 million by 2035 (orange line in chart below).
In other words, Bonilla lost nearly $10 million in potential earnings by taking the payments instead of the lump sum.
Do you know any athlete that would turn $5.9 million into $104.1 million? Or pretty much anyone.
Plus, that analysis seems to completely ignore taxes and other factors.
More important, a better judge would have been how much, in 2000, a single premium annuity would have cost to return $1.2 million for 25 years. I don't have the number but I'd betcha it would have cost over 10 million. Actually, this is kind of how a lot of lotteries work. It's either a lump sum or it's over 25 years. When you choose a lump sum, it's usually about half (and it IS the way to go). But here, the lump sum was only about one-fifth of the total payments! So no, the 30 million paid over 25 years was better in every way imaginable.
For example, if you won a $12 million jackpot in the multistate Mega Millions lottery game, you could take $461,538 a year for 26 years and get the entire $12 million, or accept a lump sum of $7,042,000, equal to 58 percent of $12 million.
So the lottery choice is 58% of the full amount or equal over 26 years.
Bonilla's choice was only 20% of the full amount or equal over 25 years.
58% is a good deal; 20% is not.
Granted, the prevailing interest rate was higher in 2000, but not that much.
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Darkside Magick
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05-28-10
12638
#24
Originally posted by d2bets
Do you know any athlete that would turn $5.9 million into $104.1 million? Or pretty much anyone.
Plus, that analysis seems to completely ignore taxes and other factors.
More important, a better judge would have been how much, in 2000, a single premium annuity would have cost to return $1.2 million for 25 years. I don't have the number but I'd betcha it would have cost over 10 million. Actually, this is kind of how a lot of lotteries work. It's either a lump sum or it's over 25 years. When you choose a lump sum, it's usually about half (and it IS the way to go). But here, the lump sum was only about one-fifth of the total payments! So no, the 30 million paid over 25 years was better in every way imaginable.
i understand your premise but the Mets brain trust figure this was the way to go. they may have thought that athletes have access to top money managers and getting 8% per year was standard. but hey its the Mets, they let madoff rob them!
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d2bets
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#25
Originally posted by Darkside Magick
i understand your premise but the Mets brain trust figure this was the way to go. they may have thought that athletes have access to top money managers and getting 8% per year was standard. but hey its the Mets, they let madoff rob them!
Who knows what was behind it. Regardless, for Bonilla it was a GREAT decision.
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oiler
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#26
great deal made by bonilla
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Darkside Magick
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05-28-10
12638
#27
Originally posted by d2bets
Who knows what was behind it. Regardless, for Bonilla it was a GREAT decision.
well one of the reason was if the Mets invested the $5.9 million at 8% interest in 2000, that money would have grown to more than $14 million before they had to <nobr style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px;">make a</nobr> single payment to Bonilla. That money would continue to draw interest even while they are <nobr style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px;">making payments</nobr>.
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Ghenghis Kahn
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01-02-12
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#28
Originally posted by Darkside Magick
Following the 1999 season, the Mets wanted to buy out the final year of Bonilla's contract. But instead of paying him the $5.9 million he was owed, the two sides agreed to a deferred compensation deal with the Mets paying Bonilla 25 annual payments of $1.2 million starting on July 1, 2011.
On the surface the deal looks laughable for the Mets as the payments will total $29.8 million. However, it is not nearly that simple and the deal was actually a good one for the Mets.
If Bonilla had accepted the $5.9 million in 2000 and invested the entire amount at 8% interest, the original investment would have grown to $104.1 million by 2035* (blue line in chart below). If, instead, Bonilla took his annual payment and invested it with an 8% annual return, he would have $95.2 million by 2035 (orange line in chart below).
In other words, Bonilla lost nearly $10 million in potential earnings by taking the payments instead of the lump sum.
well in that sense, it worked out well for both. i doubt bonilla would've invested any of $5.9 mil.
just watch espn 30/30 "broke". most go broke and ones that invest, they invest in the wrong the things.
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d2bets
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#29
Originally posted by Darkside Magick
well one of the reason was if the Mets invested the $5.9 million at 8% interest in 2000, that money would have grown to more than $14 million before they had to <nobr style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px;">make a</nobr> single payment to Bonilla. That money would continue to draw interest even while they are <nobr style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px;">making payments</nobr>.
Interest? How did investments do between 2000-2008? Not too good.
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TheLock
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04-06-08
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#30
LOLMets
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scumbag
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#31
darkside, if billy walter, one of the sharpest gamblers around, has been fleeced on every stock deal he's ever done - how do you think bobby bonnilla would fare?
smart move on bonnilla's part.
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Darkside Magick
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05-28-10
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#32
Originally posted by scumbag
darkside, if billy walter, one of the sharpest gamblers around, has been fleeced on every stock deal he's ever done - how do you think bobby bonnilla would fare?
smart move on bonnilla's part.
anybody who in the know about gambling knows billy walters is a myth more like a persona where he hide behind shady business dealings.
again in a true financiall sense.. it was a bad deal to take the deferred money.
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actiondan
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10-16-10
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#33
Lmfao
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klemopixx
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#34
Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
Allen Iverson wished he had a contract like BB...dude would be able to at least eat at Taco Bell now
Iverson has 50 M in trust fund that he can't touch till he's 50. Fact. AI is just chillin for 9 more years, he's got a gig with the Sixers paying him a few bucks to hang around.