Wisconsin is in trouble

[jjgold]

All WIsconsin seems to do is win that's what scares me some might not look pretty but they seem hard to knock out

[t-wizzle]

Ha, here's as good a place as any to stop reading. Yeah those Badgers really pick up the pace.

You must not even watch your own team. Wisconsin plays with tempo. I guess you were too lazy to really pay attention to what was happening right in front of your eyes these past two years.

[jtoler]

You must not even watch your own team. Wisconsin plays with tempo. I guess you were too lazy to really pay attention to what was happening right in front of your eyes these past two years.

Tempo as far as ball movement and motion bro other than that theyre close to being the slowest in the nation at actually getting a shot up.

[No coincidences]

Tempo as far as ball movement and motion bro other than that theyre close to being the slowest in the nation at actually getting a shot up.

Especially tomorrow night. They're not about to run and gun with a team that wants to run and gun. They'll pick their spots of course like they always do, but for the most part, they'll just grind UNC down and out. This is one of the biggest coaching mismatches in the Sweet 16.

[texhooper]

Wisconsin is like the slowest paced team every year, this year is no exception. If nothing else, let's at least cease to argue about that and just accept the truth.

And I don't need to say anything further about this matchup because No Coin already nailed it. Bo Ryan will put a clownsuit on Roy Williams.

[jtoler]

I think you guys underestimate Roy and dont give him enough credit, but Im sure I cant change your mind.

[James Marques]

You must not even watch your own team. Wisconsin plays with tempo. I guess you were too lazy to really pay attention to what was happening right in front of your eyes these past two years.

This is a bad read, bro. Way off base. Slow, slow basketball. One of the slowest in the country.

[19th Hole]

I think you guys underestimate Roy and dont give him enough credit, but Im sure I cant change your mind.

Widely accepted that Roy Williams coaching ends when recruiting is over and he slides to the bench.

[meader99]

[QUOTE=t-wizzle;23776077]I want to start this by saying that I was very high on this team all year last season and they made a run to the Final Four and were one play from reaching the Championship. I've been high on them this year as well but I think we're starting to see some kinks in the armor.

North Carolina is peaking at the right time. They have the bigs to beat up Wisconsin's frontcourt. Both teams like to play uptempo but UNC has the ability to outrebound the Badgers - something that rarely happens against this Wisconsin team. If UNC wins the battle of the boards, they can get out in transition and more importantly get those putbacks that Wisky never seems to give up.

The great thing about Wisconsin is that they have long versatile players who can beat you from the perimeter. It's a lot harder to get those looks against a big team like North Carolina though.

Wisconsin is on upset alert folks. Leaning heavily toward The Tar Heels +6 and ML.[/QUOTE

I dont understand this logic. Notre Dame went on a huge run against them and basically blew them out in the 2nd half. They struggled to beat Harvard and played an Arky team that played right into their hands. Wiscy runs much better offense than ND and they play defense. Kaminsky, Hayes and Dekker will keep UNC off the glass as thats the only way UNC can score.

[hawkwind]

Wizzle excellent points

White boys can't jump

racist

[t-wizzle]

Especially tomorrow night. They're not about to run and gun with a team that wants to run and gun. They'll pick their spots of course like they always do, but for the most part, they'll just grind UNC down and out. This is one of the biggest coaching mismatches in the Sweet 16.

You're the same guy who a year ago called this team one of Wisconsin's worst in years, especially defensively.

[DrStale]

You must not even watch your own team. Wisconsin plays with tempo. I guess you were too lazy to really pay attention to what was happening right in front of your eyes these past two years.

346th out of 351 teams in college hoops in possessions per game and I am the one not paying attention. Ok boss.

[t-wizzle]

Tempo as far as ball movement and motion bro other than that theyre close to being the slowest in the nation at actually getting a shot up.

Which is exactly what I was referring to.

[Big Bear]

Wisconsin wants a slow paced game

UNC wants to run up and down the floor

UNC struggled with Harvard who was successful at slowing down the pace.

Bad matchup for UNC IMHO

[No coincidences]

Widely accepted that Roy Williams coaching ends when recruiting is over and he slides to the bench.

Did you see Roy get asked about the longer TV timeouts during the tournament? His response was downright laughable, and if I'm a Tar Heel fan, I'd be fuming. He basically said that's way too long/it's too long in the first place/what do I say to my players/I just send them back out there. It was Roy Williams' entire "coaching" career in a pathetic nutshell.

[TPowell]

Did you see Roy get asked about the longer TV timeouts during the tournament? His response was downright laughable, and if I'm a Tar Heel fan, I'd be fuming. He basically said that's way too long/it's too long in the first place/what do I say to my players/I just send them back out there. It was Roy Williams' entire "coaching" career in a pathetic nutshell.

The sad thing is most think the guy is still a decent coach

[No coincidences]

You're the same guy who a year ago called this team one of Wisconsin's worst in years, especially defensively.

WISCONSIN
Year/PPG/national rank
2010-11/58.6/4th
2011-12/52.2/1st
2012-13/55.9/7th
2013-14/64.0/40th
2014-15/56.9/9th

Anything else?

[No coincidences]

The sad thing is most think the guy is still a decent coach

He's an elite recruiter. That goes without saying. Always has been.

Let's not make it more complicated than that.

[TPowell]

WISCONSIN
Year/PPG/national rank
2010-11/58.6/4th
2011-12/52.2/1st
2012-13/55.9/7th
2013-14/64.0/40th
2014-15/56.9/9th

Anything else?

the truth is, this year, last year, and 2011, they were very similar. PPG is a very misleading stat. They may be 9th in PPG defense, but they are only 41st in Ken Pom. Last year they were 49th or so

[t-wizzle]

WISCONSIN
Year/PPG/national rank
2010-11/58.6/4th
2011-12/52.2/1st
2012-13/55.9/7th
2013-14/64.0/40th
2014-15/56.9/9th

Anything else?

Yea man. They are awful at defense. You really proved your point. Keep breaking down numbers. I'll watch the actual game.

[MarcusPaige]

Look at Roy's record vs Pitino and Izzo, it's sick. He's NEVER lost in the first round of the NCAA, that's 25-0. The beloved "mastermind" Coach K has 3 first round NCAA losses in the last 8 years, losing to shit teams like Lehigh and Mercer! Who has more natty's in the last 10 years???

He's not a perfect sideline coach. A lot of people wish he would call more TO's but his mentor's strategy was to let them play through it and learn because the games right now are the only ones that really matter. But people who say he is a BAD coach are just insanely ignorant.

[jtoler]

Mercer and LeHigh were pretty good. If you can watch a replay of the Mercer game you will see an offensive clinic, perfectly ran sets, Duke wasn't expecting such and wasn't prepared for it. But yeah I think also the board doesn't respect Roy enough and they could pay for it tonight.

[No coincidences]

Yea man. They are awful at defense. You really proved your point. Keep breaking down numbers. I'll watch the actual game.

I never said they were "awful at defense." I said that last year was one of their more sub-par years defensively, relative to their normal standards.

What is wrong with you? Seriously. You have completely lost it.

[TPowell]

Look at Roy's record vs Pitino and Izzo, it's sick. He's NEVER lost in the first round of the NCAA, that's 25-0. The beloved "mastermind" Coach K has 3 first round NCAA losses in the last 8 years, losing to shit teams like Lehigh and Mercer! Who has more natty's in the last 10 years???

He's not a perfect sideline coach. A lot of people wish he would call more TO's but his mentor's strategy was to let them play through it and learn because the games right now are the only ones that really matter. But people who say he is a BAD coach are just insanely ignorant.

Absolutely zero cred. with your user name. Just because he beats elite coaches doesn't make him great. He ALWAYS has top 10 talent and hasn't made a Final Four in what 5-6 years?

[jjgold]

Wizzle what's your record?

I see you make 100's of plays per week

[No coincidences]

Look at Roy's record vs Pitino and Izzo, it's sick. He's NEVER lost in the first round of the NCAA, that's 25-0. The beloved "mastermind" Coach K has 3 first round NCAA losses in the last 8 years, losing to shit teams like Lehigh and Mercer! Who has more natty's in the last 10 years???

He's not a perfect sideline coach. A lot of people wish he would call more TO's but his mentor's strategy was to let them play through it and learn because the games right now are the only ones that really matter. But people who say he is a BAD coach are just insanely ignorant.

He's not a "bad" coach. I don't think anyone is saying that. But given the talent he's had to work with through the years, you'd figure he would have more than three Final Four appearances at UNC by now (and none since '08-09). '09-10 was a joke. Then 61-14 in '10-11 and '11-12 alone, but bounced in the Elite 8 both times. Followed by a two-year Sweet 16 gap.

And this doesn't even take the academic fraud into consideration, or the "Haiti disaster/catastrophe" quote, or getting Kansas's AD fired.

[jtoler]

Whoa, you guys are too tough on Roy, coaches don't wake out of bed and make Final Fours, they are hard to come by. When they lost in elite 8 did they not lose to better teams in Kentucky and Kansas? Not particularly a Roy fan but let's be rational.

[No coincidences]

Whoa, you guys are too tough on Roy, coaches don't wake out of bed and make Final Fours, they are hard to come by. When they lost in elite 8 did they not lose to better teams in Kentucky and Kansas? Not particularly a Roy fan but let's be rational.

I'm just saying that when it comes to in-game coaching, he's not on Bo Ryan's level.

[TPowell]

even Bo Ryan isn't great when it comes to in game coaching. The only reason Wisconsin hasn't been to multiple Final Fours by now is his stubbornness to adapt to what is going on around him. He's the absolute best at installing his system and finding players/preparing them for the game

[jtoler]

even Bo Ryan isn't great when it comes to in game coaching. The only reason Wisconsin hasn't been to multiple Final Fours by now is his stubbornness to adapt to what is going on around him. He's the absolute best at installing his system and finding players/preparing them for the game

Was gonna say this yesterday about Ryan you're right.

[t-wizzle]

I never said they were "awful at defense." I said that last year was one of their more sub-par years defensively, relative to their normal standards.

What is wrong with you? Seriously. You have completely lost it.

You were very harsh in your criticism of Wisconsin last year. It was typical no coin midseason overreaction. Whether you said "awful" or not is irrelevant. You didn't dance around the fact that you thought they weren't good. Naturally it turned out to be Wisconsin's best team in history.

I've lost it? Yea okay. You're on tilt from the 300+ units you've lost in nba and ncaab this year. Take a look in the mirror pal.

[SplitAces]

You lose all credibility when you put this in your post. Both teams like to play uptempo

Wisconsin is the definition of slow possession basketball, not uptempo.

I have been away for a few months but still see TWIZZLE has not lost a step.

I want UNC to win, but I can see this is a bad match up for them. They will need an off night of Badger shooting.

I want to start this by saying that I was very high on this team all year last season and they made a run to the Final Four and were one play from reaching the Championship. I've been high on them this year as well but I think we're starting to see some kinks in the armor.

North Carolina is peaking at the right time. They have the bigs to beat up Wisconsin's frontcourt. Both teams like to play uptempo but UNC has the ability to outrebound the Badgers - something that rarely happens against this Wisconsin team. If UNC wins the battle of the boards, they can get out in transition and more importantly get those putbacks that Wisky never seems to give up.

The great thing about Wisconsin is that they have long versatile players who can beat you from the perimeter. It's a lot harder to get those looks against a big team like North Carolina though.

Wisconsin is on upset alert folks. Leaning heavily toward The Tar Heels +6 and ML.

[tatddy]

You guys must all live in cold weather cities to be spending this much life on 1 game.

[TwoWays]

Wizzle continues to pick winners. Why do u all think u know more than him. I'd pay for his picks.

[PAYTON20]

Seaweed, Wizzle, and JJGold on UNC

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3074811-north-carolina-6-my-bet-tomorrow-should-yours.html

you know what to do boys