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  • WinningSince86
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-30-14
    • 126

    #1
    Understand the trend. . .
    They all have sucked or extremely overrated:

    Cam Newton
    Donovan McNabb
    Akili Smith
    Warren Moon
    Randal Cunningham
    Dante Cullpeper
    Mike Vick
    Byron Leftwich
    Charlie Batch
    Spurgen Wynn
    Jamarcus Russell
    EJ Manuel
    Thaddeus Lewis
    Teddy Bridgewater
    Seneca Wallace
    Tarvaris Jackson
    Josh Freeman
    Terrell Pryor
    Aaron Brooks
    Marcus Vick
    Rodney Pete
    Steve McNair
    Jason Campbell
    Kordel Stewart


    Majority of African american are not good quarterbacks. Always overrated.

    Thoughts?
  • SamDiamond
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-19-12
    • 6107

    #2
    Cunningham and Moon were good QBs.
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    • WinningSince86
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-30-14
      • 126

      #3
      Good but overrated and never won.
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      • SamDiamond
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-19-12
        • 6107

        #4
        Originally posted by WinningSince86
        Good but overrated and never won.
        Dan Marino never won.

        Jim Kelly never won.

        Fran Tarkenton never won.

        Dan Fouts never won.

        Great QBs sometimes just don't win a Super Bowl.
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        • WinningSince86
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-30-14
          • 126

          #5
          Ya didn't have IT factor.

          Lol.

          This is just in relevance to all the black qbs that are always picked high, wasted on, and overrated.
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          • GunShard
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-05-10
            • 10033

            #6
            Doug Williams was the black quarterback to win a super bowl.

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            • paco
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-07-09
              • 62873

              #7
              Who led them there before getting injured?
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              • DrunkHorseplayer
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-15-10
                • 7720

                #8
                Jay Schroeder.
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                • Riceboi
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-03-11
                  • 857

                  #9
                  Russell Wilson? But he's mixed I guess.
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                  • jtoler
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-17-13
                    • 30982

                    #10
                    Half of those guys were good or average, make a list with white qbs.
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                    • TiredPro
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-17-12
                      • 672

                      #11
                      African Americans ?? Call them what they are.......Black or Negroes.
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                      • Renegades
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-12-11
                        • 5290

                        #12
                        Warren Moon is the only one worth a lick.

                        A GM should never and I mean never, draft a black QB to be the franchise QB
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                        • jtoler
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                          • 12-17-13
                          • 30982

                          #13
                          OP is a clown obviously you dont know any of those guys on that list. Im willing to bet you simply went to google and typed "black NFL quarterbacks".
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                          • WinningSince86
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-30-14
                            • 126

                            #14
                            I know every single qb.
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                            • jtoler
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                              • 12-17-13
                              • 30982

                              #15
                              Could ask about alot of those on list but how does Warren Moon suck or is overrated? Robbed of 6 years having to play in Canada, while there not only played in Grey Cup first 5 years, but won it his first 5 years in CFL. 7th on all-time list for NFL qb yardage despite missing 6 years to CFL, 1990 NFL Offensive Player of the Year, 9-time Pro Bowler, 2006 NFL Hall of Fame inductee.
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                              • WinningSince86
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 10-30-14
                                • 126

                                #16
                                Whatever. Warren Moon. Overrated. He isn't even a top 50 qb.
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                                • GT21Megatron
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-20-13
                                  • 10818

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by WinningSince86
                                  They all have sucked or extremely overrated:

                                  Cam Newton
                                  Donovan McNabb
                                  Akili Smith
                                  Warren Moon
                                  Randal Cunningham
                                  Dante Cullpeper
                                  Mike Vick
                                  Byron Leftwich
                                  Charlie Batch
                                  Spurgen Wynn
                                  Jamarcus Russell
                                  EJ Manuel
                                  Thaddeus Lewis
                                  Teddy Bridgewater
                                  Seneca Wallace
                                  Tarvaris Jackson
                                  Josh Freeman
                                  Terrell Pryor
                                  Aaron Brooks
                                  Marcus Vick
                                  Rodney Pete
                                  Steve McNair
                                  Jason Campbell
                                  Kordel Stewart


                                  Majority of African american are not good quarterbacks. Always overrated.

                                  Thoughts?
                                  What about RG-Me?

                                  Tony Carter
                                  Rodney Pete
                                  Andre Ware
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                                  • WinningSince86
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-30-14
                                    • 126

                                    #18
                                    Oh ya.

                                    Rg is number one.

                                    Just copy paste and keep adding.

                                    Can't believe I forgot that bum.
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                                    • GT21Megatron
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-20-13
                                      • 10818

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by WinningSince86
                                      Oh ya.

                                      Rg is number one.

                                      Just copy paste and keep adding.

                                      Can't believe I forgot that bum.
                                      Tony Carter
                                      Andre Ware
                                      Rodney Pete
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                                      • jtoler
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-17-13
                                        • 30982

                                        #20
                                        I forgot, he instrumented The Comeback, a game I was watching with my dad, my dad fell asleep at halftime, I watched the entire game, when he woke up I told him the Oilers won, he was like whatever knock it off, then he saw the highlights and couldnt believe it.
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                                        • GT21Megatron
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-20-13
                                          • 10818

                                          #21
                                          Pat White
                                          Marcus Vick
                                          Dennis Dixon
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                                          • WinningSince86
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 10-30-14
                                            • 126

                                            #22
                                            I named guys off my head.

                                            Over Warren Moon talk. I would never take him as a franchise quarterblack.
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                                            • slacker00
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-06-05
                                              • 12262

                                              #23
                                              Cam is 31-24-3 ATS in the NFL. Let's not overreact to one game.
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                                              • I/O
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-26-11
                                                • 7922

                                                #24
                                                Trent Dilfer
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388208

                                                  #25
                                                  2 reasons

                                                  inability to read defenses in nfl
                                                  inaccurate arms
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94463

                                                    #26
                                                    Mcnair was pretty good.
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                                                    • I/O
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 05-26-11
                                                      • 7922

                                                      #27
                                                      in case someone starts a thread about virgins, I got a head start...

                                                      Tim Tebow
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                                                      • kidcudi92
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-14-11
                                                        • 15437

                                                        #28
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                                                        • House
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-04-11
                                                          • 7088

                                                          #29
                                                          I can make a list 3 miles long with sorry ass white QBs .... keeping it real ..
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                                                          • tb1984
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-11-08
                                                            • 3112

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by WinningSince86
                                                            They all have sucked or extremely overrated:

                                                            Cam Newton
                                                            Donovan McNabb
                                                            Akili Smith
                                                            Warren Moon
                                                            Randal Cunningham
                                                            Dante Cullpeper
                                                            Mike Vick
                                                            Byron Leftwich
                                                            Charlie Batch
                                                            Spurgen Wynn
                                                            Jamarcus Russell
                                                            EJ Manuel
                                                            Thaddeus Lewis
                                                            Teddy Bridgewater
                                                            Seneca Wallace
                                                            Tarvaris Jackson
                                                            Josh Freeman
                                                            Terrell Pryor
                                                            Aaron Brooks
                                                            Marcus Vick
                                                            Rodney Pete
                                                            Steve McNair
                                                            Jason Campbell
                                                            Kordel Stewart


                                                            I'm not racist, but Majority of African american are not good quarterbacks. Always overrated.

                                                            Thoughts?
                                                            You're missing a cliche.
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                                                            • blackHIPPY
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-01-14
                                                              • 3997

                                                              #31
                                                              ok, now lets list all the shitty white quarterbacks..
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                                                              • edawg
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-09-11
                                                                • 2866

                                                                #32
                                                                It is because they are put at QB at the high school level being the best athlete and it continues to college level. In the NFL everyones a stud and they can't adjust. Has nothing to do with race if you put Edelman at QB you would get the same results.
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                                                                • RickyRoma
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-24-13
                                                                  • 624

                                                                  #33
                                                                  lol this thread seems kind of racist lol i mean there are some good QBs that are black smfh come on now
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                                                                  • Dollars2Donuts
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-07-13
                                                                    • 8803

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Straight up, the OP may be being a dikk about IT, but he is almost right.

                                                                    Warren Moon of course was a terrific QB, to say that he wasn't just proves that you are either stupid or you just never watched him run a game. He was a leader, he was accurate and he could read defenses. Now, did he ever win the SB? No. But, he never had a atacked team around him and in those days there were some pretty fantastic teams out there (Niners anyone?).

                                                                    Now, the rest of the bunch I happen to agree with. Cunningham was ok and fun to watch scramble around, but even at his best he was never a top 15 QB in the league. In my opinion McNabb was always a system guy and was an average guy at best, McNair was very overrated, RGIII will never have another year like his rookie year and will be out of the league by 30 (I predicted this after his first season) and Mike Vick....well Mike Vick was close and exciting, but he would never have led a team to the promised land.

                                                                    I honestly believe different people, races, sexes and people from different cultures and backgrounds are better at certain things. Is the aveeage black male a better athlete than the average white or Hispanic male? I think so. Are men better at sports than women? Yes...and that isn't just in sports where you need to be big and fast. How about billiards? Women should be able to compete with men in an even level there, and it won't happen. There are a million examples of this and I could literally keep naming them all night, but I digress.

                                                                    Is it a stretch to think that a white male may think in a more strategic way, especially under pressure, than a black male? I don't see why not. It certainly isn't a racist thing. It certainly isn't an 'intelligence' thing or an 'education' thing. I believe that, while it cannot be proven, this may be the ultimate truth....and I don't see anything wrong with it.

                                                                    Anyway, I prefer to look at people that bring this stuff up in a neutral light, for even if they are doing it to stir shit up, they may just end up starting a healthy conversation.


                                                                    Cheers
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                                                                    • I/O
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 05-26-11
                                                                      • 7922

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I know this is "big picture" thinking and doesn't go over well for the A/D/D youth of the forum....

                                                                      It's a little more than BLACK and WHITE

                                                                      I get the cultural differences (strengths AND weaknesses). I'm gonna go ahead and say many of the black qb's, ESPECIALLY the more athletic, do not have the same expectations or go through the same game planning as white qb's. Many just can't do what white qb's can, and vice versa. But a great number of them, if trained and drilled from childhood in the same game plan as any great white qb, could do the same thing.
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