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  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #1
    Does anybody still believe sports are fixed?
    Steelers on Sunday night

    Colts on Monday Night

    Warriors on Wednesday night

    Rockets on Thursday night

    Blazers on Thursday night


    all of these teams were major public plays and all cashed with ease.


    I used to be very skeptical about fixes ... shady refs... who the public is on..... etc

    I have come to realize sports have been cleaned up. This is so refreshing. That means that now we can simply handicap the matchup and pick the better team.

    Never again will i look at consensus numbers on vegasinsider.com the only reason that is there is to mind fukk us and make it harder than it needs to be.

    I used to think that most major calls / breaks go against the public but look at last week Public was all over Auburn... game was at Ole Miss and litterally the game was ultimately decided by a referee decision.... and Refs gave it to Auburn. That right there proves we dont need to be paranoid about being on the public side anymore.

    Line movement and who the public is on .... does not mean shit. Ravens went from +2 to -2 and still got blown out by the Steelers.


    Sports are clean again gentlemen. How refreshing is that?
  • convick
    SBR MVP
    • 11-03-11
    • 3954

    #2
    Originally posted by Big Bear
    Never again will i look at consensus numbers on vegasinsider.com the only reason that is there is to mind fukk us and make it harder than it needs to be.
    Those numbers you keep harping about come from only one book, sportsbook.ag.

    Those numbers also only give you the number of bets on each team, you have no idea how much money is on each side. While 70% of the bets are on one team, 70% of all the money might be on the other.

    So while it is nice to look at who bettors in one book like, you cant conclude that the "public" is on so and so just because a bunch of $50 bettors at sportsbook ag made more bets on the Broncos than the Raiders.
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    • Pete0
      SBR MVP
      • 04-09-10
      • 3849

      #3
      Way too many threads bear.

      Hit up JJ for advice. Thanks.
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      • James Marques
        SBR MVP
        • 03-04-14
        • 1605

        #4
        Exactly. That's the reason the books always win. They have the one piece of information none of us will ever have: where all the money is going. Those sites that tell you who the "public" is on are bought and paid for by Vegas.
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        • Jimmy Proffett
          SBR MVP
          • 10-20-09
          • 2730

          #5
          Big Bear.... have you ever had a thought pop into your head and then not made a thread about it?
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          • Big Bear
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-01-11
            • 43253

            #6
            Originally posted by Pete0
            Way too many threads bear.

            Hit up JJ for advice. Thanks.
            whoever post as JJ is fukkin retarded. Guy is trying to encourage irresponsible betting and hype up meaningless games. Reading JJ's post will make you dumber. I had to put that fukker on ignore.
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            • convick
              SBR MVP
              • 11-03-11
              • 3954

              #7
              Just another quick note. Steelers were not a public play. All action and money (from info I looked at) was fairly even.

              You seem to make up your numbers or make up your mind about what the public is on. The other week you said public won when Denver beat SD and covered. Fact is more money and more bets were on Chargers (again, only from the info I looked at).
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #8
                Originally posted by James Marques
                Exactly. That's the reason the books always win. They have the one piece of information none of us will ever have: where all the money is going. Those sites that tell you who the "public" is on are bought and paid for by Vegas.
                that shit does not matter though.

                do you honestly think if more money was say on the Spurs last night that , that would have impact on the game?


                or do uhonestly think if more money was on NY Giants on Monday that was the reason they got blown out?


                Bookies have zero control of the outcome of games. ZERO
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                • Pete0
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-09-10
                  • 3849

                  #9
                  Soccer and Russian mafia lol
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388208

                    #10
                    Idiotic people cry fix and failed bettors cry fix

                    Of course from time to time there might be a game that stays within a pointspread but it's just amongst a few people chump change

                    Mainly a college sport

                    No need to fix Pro events too much money already being profit
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                    • James Marques
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-04-14
                      • 1605

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Big Bear
                      that shit does not matter though.

                      do you honestly think if more money was say on the Spurs last night that , that would have impact on the game?


                      or do uhonestly think if more money was on NY Giants on Monday that was the reason they got blown out?


                      Bookies have zero control of the outcome of games. ZERO
                      You didn't really read what I said. I agree with you. All I was saying is you don't actually know where all the "public money" is, and you never will. They profit on house edge and variance. That's all the need.
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                      • tony_come
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-31-10
                        • 21695

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        whoever post as JJ is fukkin retarded. Guy is trying to encourage irresponsible betting and hype up meaningless games. Reading JJ's post will make you dumber. I had to put that fukker on ignore.
                        "I had to put that fukker on ignore". I'm dying right now!
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                        • Ballerholic
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-16-13
                          • 2767

                          #13
                          I definitely think the NBA is fixed to an extent. Obviously not every game is going to be fixed. But if vegas can fix a few big games a week then they're definitely cleaning up.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388208

                            #14
                            Guys stop with the fixes

                            Most legit

                            Common now
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                            • thetrinity
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-25-11
                              • 22444

                              #15
                              nba handle is ridiculously small for regular season games
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                              • warbux
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-17-13
                                • 896

                                #16
                                New reports have surfaced alleging Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston was involved in a point shaving scheme to help an old high school teammate win a $5,000 bet.


                                yes
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388208

                                  #17
                                  Some of your most stupidest people think sports are fixed
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                                  • crustyme
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-29-10
                                    • 16896

                                    #18
                                    only game i know for sure was fixed:

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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      If Henry, Tommy and Pauly couldn't profitably fix BC basketball then fixing is way overblown... Only happens in isolated incidences
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                                      • goduke
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-17-10
                                        • 11668

                                        #20
                                        I dont think sports are cleaned up at all. Vegas doesn't care about straight bets, they are out to make sure parlays don't hit with ease. Yeah rockets won last night but guess who didn't win, the bengals, and their qb looked like he forgot how to play football. Do I think all games are rigged, no absolutely not but I think some are swayed based on money and I think some games are given to the public to offset the rigged sports talk. I think it's a delicate balance which they master beautifully. This is just my opinion and honestly either side of this argument that were on doesn't matter because we can't prove either side 100 percent
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                                        • Big Bear
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #21
                                          i think in todays day and age these umpires and referees are scruitinized so closely and had to work so hard to get to the top level that they wouldnt dare risk their job over some shady business.

                                          These officials get paid pretty good money once they make it to NFL, NBA, MLB etc...
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                                          • boomer62
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-10-11
                                            • 1500

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                                            Steelers on Sunday night

                                            Colts on Monday Night

                                            Warriors on Wednesday night

                                            Rockets on Thursday night

                                            Blazers on Thursday night


                                            all of these teams were major public plays and all cashed with ease.


                                            I used to be very skeptical about fixes ... shady refs... who the public is on..... etc

                                            I have come to realize sports have been cleaned up. This is so refreshing. That means that now we can simply handicap the matchup and pick the better team.

                                            Never again will i look at consensus numbers on vegasinsider.com the only reason that is there is to mind fukk us and make it harder than it needs to be.

                                            I used to think that most major calls / breaks go against the public but look at last week Public was all over Auburn... game was at Ole Miss and litterally the game was ultimately decided by a referee decision.... and Refs gave it to Auburn. That right there proves we dont need to be paranoid about being on the public side anymore.

                                            Line movement and who the public is on .... does not mean shit. Ravens went from +2 to -2 and still got blown out by the Steelers.


                                            Sports are clean again gentlemen. How refreshing is that?
                                            ?????? You spend too much time on here posting and thinking about gambling 24/7 and your capping sucks!!
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                                            • goduke
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-17-10
                                              • 11668

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                              i think in todays day and age these umpires and referees are scruitinized so closely and had to work so hard to get to the top level that they wouldnt dare risk their job over some shady business

                                              These officials get paid pretty good money once they make it to NFL, NBA, MLB etc...
                                              You think this but honestly for NFL and NBA penalties and fouls can basically be called on every play the way theyve made the game. Also I would assume you could penalize early in a game to set the tone for a game. So if i team is physical throw alot of flags early to shut their defense down or something of that nature. I dont think its as hard to do as you think. Its not about completely rigging a game I think its about swaying it towards one side or another if need be.
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                                              • Snicklefritz
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 11-07-14
                                                • 66

                                                #24
                                                Very few and far between. You can also bet that if a game is fixed, its not going to be a major televised one.
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                                                • KiDBaZkiT
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-20-09
                                                  • 14965

                                                  #25
                                                  Bear you got it twisted
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                                                  • onacloud
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-14-10
                                                    • 5360

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                    that shit does not matter though.

                                                    do you honestly think if more money was say on the Spurs last night that , that would have impact on the game?


                                                    or do uhonestly think if more money was on NY Giants on Monday that was the reason they got blown out?


                                                    Bookies have zero control of the outcome of games. ZERO

                                                    Have you seen this 30 for 30 about Henry Hill? Give it a watch when you have some time

                                                    Gives you an idea of how easy it would be to fix any collegiate game using the PLAYERS not the zebras

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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by onacloud

                                                      Have you seen this 30 for 30 about Henry Hill? Give it a watch when you have some time

                                                      Gives you an idea of how easy it would be to fix any collegiate game using the PLAYERS not the zebras

                                                      http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11514049

                                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                                      If Henry, Tommy and Pauly couldn't profitably fix BC basketball then fixing is way overblown... Only happens in isolated incidences

                                                      Bottom line... even they could not guarantee the outcome of the games ATS...
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