New QB Controversy: McCoy vs. Subway Man

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  • TwoWays
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-10
    • 13145

    #1
    New QB Controversy: McCoy vs. Subway Man
    take the all american boy for a ride, im guesing the skins will do.
  • frostno98
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-11-07
    • 9769

    #2
    The Cowboys were who we thought they wereUm, McCoy beating these pretenders is impressive but to declare him the future QB of the Redskins really? He made a lot of bad throws, while completing a lot of lucky one's. Cousin is still a much better QB except for his untimely picks. The Skins are talented offensively.
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    • pattymayo
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      • 05-19-09
      • 10221

      #3
      Colt is almost in tears doing these post game interviews
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      • TwoWays
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        • 03-24-10
        • 13145

        #4
        why can't they just do a post game interview with his parents. i'd like to hear what his mom has to say.
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        • Smoke
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          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          Trade RG3
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          • TwoWays
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            • 03-24-10
            • 13145

            #6
            rg3 is 0-1 as skin qb this year. colt is 1-0. nuff said.
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            • frostno98
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              • 09-11-07
              • 9769

              #7
              Originally posted by TwoWays
              rg3 is 0-1 as skin qb this year. colt is 1-0. nuff said.
              And Tim Tebow is 1-1 in the playoffs and out of the NFL. WTF is your point.
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              • TwoWays
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                • 03-24-10
                • 13145

                #8
                honestly, we know it's colt's job to lose now. trade rg3 for a pick and 5 dollar off coupon at subways. guy is not made for the nfl. colt got the goods. i mean, going into big d and beating dallas. guy is legit.
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                • brooks85
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #9
                  I'd love to see the dumbass team who would trade for griffin.

                  People need to stop calling him RG3 also.
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by brooks85

                    I'd love to see the dumbass team who would trade for griffin.

                    Sammy understands Settle is looking for a Real Brotha QB
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                    • sneakerhead
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                      • 07-14-10
                      • 7727

                      #11
                      They would not bench Robert Griffin III, no way.
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                      • KiDBaZkiT
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                        • 10-20-09
                        • 14962

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sneakerhead
                        They would not bench Robert Griffin III, no way.
                        No kidding. Dude has way too many endorsements.
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                        • Ra77er
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                          • 06-20-11
                          • 10969

                          #13
                          The 's on his ole lady aint bad if that counts for anything
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                          • DrunkHorseplayer
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                            • 05-15-10
                            • 7719

                            #14
                            Until McCoy at least loses a game, it has to be him.
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                            • jjgold
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                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              I agree they will play them until he loses
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                              • slacker00
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                                • 10-06-05
                                • 12262

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Smoke
                                Trade RG3
                                Trade deadline is 8 hours from now, but what is RGIII worth? HOU/BUF should offer a 6th rounder, Fitz&Orton suck.
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                                • thebestthereis
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                                  • 03-01-09
                                  • 11459

                                  #17
                                  Robert is a world class sprinter and very good athlete. He cannot be an NFL QB unless he sits in the pocket and wins from there. He is frail, period. Not happening.
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                                  • Snowball
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                                    • 11-15-09
                                    • 30058

                                    #18
                                    Did you see the film of "RG3"' in practice ? He's going to start.
                                    The owners feel like they have to get their money's worth. At the
                                    very least I bet Snyder is hoping to showcase "RG3" for trade bait.
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                                    • Smoke
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                                      • 10-09-09
                                      • 48111

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by slacker00
                                      Trade deadline is 8 hours from now, but what is RGIII worth? HOU/BUF should offer a 6th rounder, Fitz&Orton suck.
                                      The jets could use a QB
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                                      • slacker00
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                                        • 10-06-05
                                        • 12262

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Smoke
                                        The jets could use a QB
                                        This would be hilarious, Vick and Vick III, probably both get injured and on IR by the end of the year.
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                                        • Spedizzo
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-16-11
                                          • 1557

                                          #21
                                          RG3 is too tempermental

                                          He gets upset when there is any pressure, because he is not a good pocket passer and while he is fast, he is not fast enough to outrun these NFL linebackers constantly without getting killed

                                          he still thinks the offense he had on Baylor is a typical NFL offense, with an offensive line that gives him 25 seconds in the pocket

                                          and gives him running holes big enough for him to hop scotch for 15 easy yards while avoiding college linebackers who went undrafted and are now waiting tables at Applebees
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                                          • Spedizzo
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                                            • 12-16-11
                                            • 1557

                                            #22
                                            I do not understand why the sports media and scouts completely hype up these black quarterbacks who have amazing college stats, primarily rushing, when they have great offensive lines and go up against slow crappy defense

                                            it has been proven time and time again a scrambling QB cannot cut it in the NFL

                                            they do not make good decisions because the thought to scramble is always a priority on their mind, and it doesn't work when you go up against beastly linebackers. It hinders their ability to pass in the pocket, and makes them become injury prone, turnover machines, or just ineffective

                                            this applies to white QBs also (like Tebow) who are primarily used to scrambling and using read option plays, but it is mostly applicable to black QBs because their coaches want to utilize their speed (since blacks are naturally more athletic than whites)

                                            Athletic QBs in college utilize their athleticism in college foremost, which stunts their ability to develop a good pocket passing game

                                            you need a tall, pocket passing QB who makes good decisions and has some mobility (i.e Andrew Luck) to be successful in the current NFL landscape. The QB can be shorter if they have a rocket for a brain and a rocket for an arm (Drew Brees)

                                            Blacks can be good QBs, but they do not get to develop a pocket passing game in college because their ability to scramble will be very effective against college defenses
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Spedizzo
                                              I do not understand why the sports media and scouts completely hype up these black quarterbacks who have amazing college stats, primarily rushing, when they have great offensive lines and go up against slow crappy defense

                                              it has been proven time and time again a scrambling black QB cannot cut it in the NFL

                                              they do not make good decisions because the thought to scramble is always a priority on their mind, and it doesn't work when you go up against beastly linebackers. It hinders their ability to pass in the pocket, and makes them become injury prone, turnover machines, or just ineffective

                                              Russel Wilson is the only current exception, but he is half black and had a stud defense backing him when he can't put up any points

                                              African Americans are athletes first, they do not utilize their mind the same way a Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Tom Brady would. They are poor at reading defenses and making quick decisions with their brain

                                              you need a tall, white, pocket passing QB who makes good decisions and has some mobility (i.e Andrew Luck) to be successful in the current NFL landscape. The QB can be shorter if they have a rocket for a brain and a rocket for an arm (Drew Brees)
                                              best post I have read in a long time
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                                              • teaserpleaser
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                                                • 08-14-08
                                                • 26015

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TwoWays
                                                take the all american boy for a ride, im guesing the skins will do.
                                                You call him all American I call him a Hick from a 1 stop light town... anyways they cant start him over rg3 that would be admitting you were wrong end of thread.
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                                                • teaserpleaser
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                                                  • 08-14-08
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Spedizzo
                                                  I do not understand why the sports media and scouts completely hype up these black quarterbacks who have amazing college stats, primarily rushing, when they have great offensive lines and go up against slow crappy defense

                                                  it has been proven time and time again a scrambling QB cannot cut it in the NFL

                                                  they do not make good decisions because the thought to scramble is always a priority on their mind, and it doesn't work when you go up against beastly linebackers. It hinders their ability to pass in the pocket, and makes them become injury prone, turnover machines, or just ineffective

                                                  this applies to white QBs also (like Tebow) who are primarily used to scrambling and using read option plays, but it is mostly applicable to black QBs because their coaches want to utilize their speed (since blacks are naturally more athletic than whites)

                                                  Athletic QBs in college utilize their athleticism in college foremost, which stunts their ability to develop a good pocket passing game

                                                  you need a tall, pocket passing QB who makes good decisions and has some mobility (i.e Andrew Luck) to be successful in the current NFL landscape. The QB can be shorter if they have a rocket for a brain and a rocket for an arm (Drew Brees)

                                                  Blacks can be good QBs, but they do not get to develop a pocket passing game in college because their ability to scramble will be very effective against college defenses
                                                  shit is retarded on so many levels.... don't have time to respond to all this nonsense but if you look at the trend of QBS in the NFL now and the kids coming up your pocket QB Is a dying theory.... Brees,brady, manning, etc etc are all on their way out and mobile/Black QBs will replace them.
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                                                  • teaserpleaser
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                                                    • 08-14-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    last two white pocket QBS to win Heisman who are they and how are they doing in the NFL just wondering?
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                                                    • Sam Odom
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                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27



                                                      Hit a nerve...
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                                                      • teaserpleaser
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                                                        • 08-14-08
                                                        • 26015

                                                        #28
                                                        no nerve damage here Sammy just hate when people spew that nonsense about Black QBs not being able to think or that pocket QBs are on the upswing when they are a dying breed.... whats up Sammy how you doing doing south? nice day here in the SGV
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                                                        • Sam Odom
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                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          Beautiful day in SoCal ...
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                                                          • Spedizzo
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                                                            • 12-16-11
                                                            • 1557

                                                            #30
                                                            there are 2 relatively effective scrambling QBs (Wilson and Kaep) in the NFL, and they have been successful primarily because they have been hiding behind good receivers and a stud defense the last few years who keep them in close games when they can't throw the ball worth a shit. (they also aren't fully black, but that is irrelevant, my main point is about college scrambling/read option QBs) ... TRENT DILFER won a superbowl behind the ravens defense

                                                            who are the others? you would take them over:

                                                            Rivers?
                                                            Rodgers?
                                                            Manning?
                                                            Tony Romo?
                                                            Brees?
                                                            Brady?
                                                            Roethselshamburger?
                                                            Andrew Luck?

                                                            even guys like Dalton, Palmer, Flacco, Fitzpatrick, Alex Smith (not really a pocket passer though), the list goes on

                                                            you can even go into the third tier with guys like Austin Davis, Blake Bortles, Jake Locker, etc, etc etc

                                                            where are all these successful NFL black/scrambling QBs you speak of???

                                                            and don't say Cam Newton, I live outside of Charlotte and watch every Panthers game. If anything, Cam Newton is a liability when throwing the ball. And he doesn't even really scramble anymore because he is always hurt, bad ankle, ribs, etc, etc...His only winning record year was last year when the defense was top 3 in the NFL.
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                                                            • Spedizzo
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-16-11
                                                              • 1557

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                                              last two white pocket QBS to win Heisman who are they and how are they doing in the NFL just wondering?
                                                              in the last 10 years there has been 1, Sam Bradford, who has been injured most of the time

                                                              the heisman trophy is a joke. RG3 won it over Andrew Luck, that says it all

                                                              there aren't many effective pocket passers in college football who get the opportunity to play on good teams in good programs because it is much easier to recruit an athletic QB who can pass when he has to and can hide behind a great offensive line

                                                              good luck with Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota (who I actually like) in this year's draft. they will be busts
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                                                              • Spedizzo
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                                                                • 12-16-11
                                                                • 1557

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                                                but if you look at the trend of QBS in the NFL now and the kids coming up your pocket QB Is a dying theory.... Brees,brady, manning, etc etc are all on their way out and mobile/Black QBs will replace them.
                                                                hahahahahahah
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                                                                • TheLangster
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 09-20-14
                                                                  • 185

                                                                  #33
                                                                  yeah come on lets be realistic, rushing qbs will never replace pocket passing qbs, if you think that maybe you should first read about what american football is


                                                                  there is already someone on the team to rush with the ball, he is called a running back


                                                                  a good team needs a good passing game and a good rushing game, if your quarterback is better at rushing rather than passing that means you are week at a very important aspect of an american football offence, which means you are not a good team

                                                                  you need balance to have a good team


                                                                  just look at the two poster boys for rushing qbs, Vick and RGIII

                                                                  just decide already, you want to be a qb or an rb? if you want both then good luck hunging around the hospital the rest of your career, and you can forget about winning a superbowl
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                                                                  • Sam Odom
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                                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                                    • 58063

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Black QBs will be 'just QBs' when media/announcers stop using Athleticism when describing them
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                                                                    • slacker00
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                                                                      • 10-06-05
                                                                      • 12262

                                                                      #35
                                                                      ugh, another QB race debate. How about racist NFL owners catering rules to advance white QBs over black CBs?
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