Kershaw loses title of best pitcher in baseball

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  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65684

    #71
    Originally posted by Rich Boy
    I think Trout is making a push for biggest post season choker

    0-8 so far against KC
    Can we give Trout at least 25 AB's before labeling him anytthing.

    Dave Winfield was a choke artist, so bad Steinbrenner called him Mr. May

    I need to look it up, but I don't even think Winfield hit .200 in the post season.

    Best ever post season pitcher?
    Mo. The discussion ends with Mo.
    Arizona beat Mo with a hump back soft single, and a play not made by Brosius that Mo seems to think he should have made.
    I have seen Mo's entire career, I saw him in year one as a spot starter, I saw him when he was 8th inning set up dude for Wetteland, who only saved all four games (I think he's the only one to do that) and was the MVP, and I saw Mo take over for Wetteland and become the greatest ever at what he did, and the only time I have ever seen Mo remotely pissed was after the Brosisus play.

    Mariano Rivera's post season numbers are staggering, unfathonable, mind numbing.
    And he did it with one pitch, the hitter knew what pitch was coming every time, every pitch, and he did it for 2 decades.
    That's a hell of a pitch I tell ya what.
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    • CWD
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-22-12
      • 7665

      #72
      speaking of greatest ever, was mariano the best reliever? he did blow the save and get the loss in the 9th inning of game 7 of the world series. not sure how you can be called the greatest when you lose the world series in that situation. imo i dont care how many saves you got that negates a ton
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65684

        #73
        Originally posted by CWD
        speaking of greatest ever, was mariano the best reliever? he did blow the save and get the loss in the 9th inning of game 7 of the world series. not sure how you can be called the greatest when you lose the world series in that situation. imo i dont care how many saves you got that negates a ton
        Wow, just wow.
        This post leaves me speechless.

        Do you really think anybody is perfect in anything?

        Ignorant post, beyond ignorant.
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        • afgballer56
          SBR MVP
          • 09-11-14
          • 1312

          #74
          Where are the people that said Kershaw is a playoff choke
          choke on his stats today
          ignorant ppl judging an elite pitcher after 3 post season games
          c,mon man
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          • t-wizzle
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-18-09
            • 38099

            #75
            Kershaw with a big fukk you to OP.
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            • t-wizzle
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-18-09
              • 38099

              #76
              Originally posted by PAYTON20
              Put King Felix in the NL where he gets to face a pitcher every time through the lineup and he'd be better

              Or put King Felix on a team that gives him run support.

              If Felix pitched for the Angels, he would've had 30 wins this season... and that's not an opinion, it's supported by the #'s
              Yea whatever. Best year of his career and he's still not better than Kershaw.

              Who's to say he would be some clutch playoff performer?

              Oh right I forgot... you're from Seattle. It all makes sense now.
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              • Rich Boy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-01-09
                • 9714

                #77
                Kershaw about to blow it again
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                • Rich Boy
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-01-09
                  • 9714

                  #78
                  And that seals Kershaws fate, BOOM HR
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                  • Rich Boy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-01-09
                    • 9714

                    #79
                    Originally posted by afgballer56
                    Where are the people that said Kershaw is a playoff choke
                    choke on his stats today
                    ignorant ppl judging an elite pitcher after 3 post season games
                    c,mon man
                    3 run HR
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                    • TheLock
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-06-08
                      • 14427

                      #80
                      I can't believe Mattingly left him in after the first 2 guys reached in the 7th.

                      What a stooge.
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                      • krk1030
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-13-08
                        • 17610

                        #81
                        wow 7th inning does him in again
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                        • Pauulzcappin
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-23-10
                          • 20295

                          #82
                          that ball is still travelling out there
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                          • rcene
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-28-12
                            • 3036

                            #83
                            Kershaw is great until the post season comes around. He is not a big game, big money pitcher what so ever.
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                            • krk1030
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-13-08
                              • 17610

                              #84
                              Did they already do the mvp voting?
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                              • rcene
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-28-12
                                • 3036

                                #85
                                Yeah all the votes were in before the post season began.

                                Kershaw winning the cy young and mvp is a total joke. Guy is October's Mister Choke.
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                                • rcene
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-28-12
                                  • 3036

                                  #86
                                  ...
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                                  • CWD
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-22-12
                                    • 7665

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    Wow, just wow.
                                    This post leaves me speechless.

                                    Do you really think anybody is perfect in anything?

                                    Ignorant post, beyond ignorant.
                                    lost the world series on his own by himself. many things define the great, i asked a question didnt get an answer. guess it went over your head.

                                    end of argument.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65684

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by TheLock
                                      I can't believe Mattingly left him in after the first 2 guys reached in the 7th.

                                      What a stooge.
                                      Makes Ned Yost look like Sparky Anderson.
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                                      • rcene
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-28-12
                                        • 3036

                                        #89
                                        ...
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                                        • PAYTON20
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-02-10
                                          • 5217

                                          #90
                                          KERCHOKE

                                          What a gutless fukkn pussy
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                                          • face
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-31-11
                                            • 14740

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by afgballer56
                                            Where are the people that said Kershaw is a playoff choke
                                            choke on his stats today
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65684

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by CWD
                                              lost the world series on his own by himself. many things define the great, i asked a question didnt get an answer. guess it went over your head.

                                              end of argument.
                                              What question?
                                              He blew that game all by himeself?
                                              That's an idiot question, I am usually not in the practice in answering idiot questions, but this time I'll field this one.
                                              Soriano bothced the double play ball on the bunt, so I guess he didn't blow it all by himself, and don't tell me Mo got charged the error, yeah, if Soriano does what he is supposed to do, 2 outs nobody on.

                                              Did you pass fifth grade english?
                                              Do you know the definition of 'greatest'?

                                              Until you can name me a reliever better in the post season at what they did better than what Mariano did, we'll consider this debate closed.
                                              And since you can not......

                                              /end discussion
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                                              • PAYTON20
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-02-10
                                                • 5217

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                Yea whatever. Best year of his career and he's still not better than Kershaw.

                                                Who's to say he would be some clutch playoff performer?

                                                Oh right I forgot... you're from Seattle. It all makes sense now.
                                                Kershaw chokes once again and BLOWS another season for the Dodgers

                                                Guy is a joke
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                                                • yisman
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                  • 75682

                                                  #94
                                                  just amazing

                                                  kershaw rolling in both starts, has a multi-run lead in Games 1 and 4 in the 7th...

                                                  and then implodes each time

                                                  October 3: 6 IP, 2 hits, 2 runs, 0 walks, 8 Ks
                                                  October 7: 6 IP, 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 9 Ks

                                                  so 12 innings, 3 hits, 17 Ks

                                                  pretty awesome line

                                                  unfortunately for him, the 7th inning counts, and he winds up with a 7.82 ERA for the series.
                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                  [/quote]

                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                  • rcene
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-28-12
                                                    • 3036

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                                    Kershaw chokes once again and BLOWS another season for the Dodgers

                                                    Guy is a joke
                                                    1000% correct!

                                                    Choker is now 1-5 with an era over 5 in post season baseball.
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                                                    • rcene
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-28-12
                                                      • 3036

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by yisman
                                                      just amazing

                                                      kershaw rolling in both starts, has a multi-run lead in Games 1 and 4 in the 7th...

                                                      and then implodes each time

                                                      October 3: 6 IP, 2 hits, 2 runs, 0 walks, 8 Ks
                                                      October 7: 6 IP, 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 9 Ks

                                                      so 12 innings, 3 hits, 17 Ks

                                                      pretty awesome line

                                                      unfortunately for him, the 7th inning counts, and he winds up with a 7.82 ERA for the series.
                                                      Mvp and cy young winner does not, cannot choke away those leads.
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                                                      • boeing power
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-23-10
                                                        • 9698

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                        Kershaw with a big fukk you to OP.
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                                                        • Rich Boy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-01-09
                                                          • 9714

                                                          #98
                                                          Another runner on 2nd and kershaw gets hammered... Maybe there is something to this theory.

                                                          Either Stl is stealing signs or Kershaw cant pitch out of the stretch.
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                                                          • sneakerhead
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-14-10
                                                            • 7727

                                                            #99
                                                            Kershaw is on Peytons level in playoffs
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                                                            • PAYTON20
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-02-10
                                                              • 5217

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                              Kershaw with a big fukk you to OP.
                                                              Originally posted by boeing power
                                                              Lmao. Wizzle is widely known as the worst handicapper an biggest mush on SBR. His opinion means nothing.. however, his betting picks are golden for those FADES!

                                                              He was just buried by Kershaw and the Dodgers
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65684

                                                                #101
                                                                All St. Louis does is win.
                                                                Say what you want about the Cards, this is what? Their fourth straight trip to the NL finals?
                                                                All they do is win
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                                                                • TheLock
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-06-08
                                                                  • 14427

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by TheLock
                                                                  Pivotal night for Kershaw.

                                                                  A blow up here could really rattle him.

                                                                  I grabbed STL +1.5 -113 last night because that was too good of a price at home and not because it was a "fade Kershaw" situation.
                                                                  Oh yeah.

                                                                  Wine and roses, boys.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Locker share some of that wealth pal I live in Newark New Jersey
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                                                                    • franklee168
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-06-11
                                                                      • 5544

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Kershaw is the best pitcher on the planet....In the regular season.
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                                                                      • Allure
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 08-18-10
                                                                        • 7606

                                                                        #105
                                                                        He was never even close to being the best pitcher in baseball.

                                                                        But he is the biggest choker in baseball history, that's true.
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