Duffy twirling a gem also. Going to tune into the last few innings of this it looks good.
And Kluber only at 70 pitches.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65722
#4
Tyson Ross dealing too.
9 K's in the fourth
Garza 1 hitting the Mets in the sixth.
I don't give a shit that chicks dig the long ball, pitching duels get me hot.
If you don't like good pitching, you just don't like baseball.
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brooks85
SBR Aristocracy
01-05-09
44709
#5
I should really learn more about the pitchers in baseball. No idea who this kluber guy was but it sounds like everyone else did.
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Mase of Base
SBR MVP
07-24-12
3622
#6
I'm the ultimate jinx for these things as soon as I tune in there's a hit practically straight away.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65722
#7
Originally posted by brooks85
I should really learn more about the pitchers in baseball. No idea who this kluber guy was but it sounds like everyone else did.
Do it like this.
Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
(Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)
You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
34 starts.
1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.
I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.
Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.
Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.
The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
(However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
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RavensFan2k3
SBR Posting Legend
08-18-12
17378
#8
Originally posted by stevenash
Do it like this.
Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
(Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)
You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
34 starts.
1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.
I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.
Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.
Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.
The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
(However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
Good post
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MoneyIsWater
SBR MVP
11-04-13
1341
#9
Kluber
IF he keeps his performance up...
I believe could be an Cy Young this year.
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boomerbust
SBR Sharp
04-07-12
457
#10
Originally posted by Mase of Base
I'm the ultimate jinx for these things as soon as I tune in there's a hit practically straight away.
You effin mush. Thanks for nothin. I bet you didn't even bet the Royals!
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boomerbust
SBR Sharp
04-07-12
457
#11
Originally posted by stevenash
Do it like this.
Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
(Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)
You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
34 starts.
1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.
I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.
Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.
Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.
The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
(However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
Kluber pitches in a lefty friendly park as well.
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RavensFan2k3
SBR Posting Legend
08-18-12
17378
#12
Finally let one up...thoughy my Royals bet was done for
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2Shirts
SBR MVP
03-11-11
4402
#13
Cleveland will at least tie it the top of the 9th - and may end up winning
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RavensFan2k3
SBR Posting Legend
08-18-12
17378
#14
Originally posted by 2Shirts
Cleveland will at least tie it the top of the 9th - and may end up winning
Nah
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ithinkiamgood
SBR MVP
10-30-13
2211
#15
tie game baby!!
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sbrhedge
SBR MVP
01-18-11
1354
#16
Originally posted by 2Shirts
Cleveland will at least tie it the top of the 9th - and may end up winning
good read with the first 1/2 of your analysis
1st and 2nd now?
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mcdonae101
SBR MVP
03-02-14
3646
#17
Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
Nah
U were saying
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RavensFan2k3
SBR Posting Legend
08-18-12
17378
#18
Originally posted by sbrhedge
good read with the first 1/2 of your analysis
Haha very true. Game on!
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65722
#19
Originally posted by boomerbust
Kluber pitches in a lefty friendly park as well.
Well yeah, some of why he has success, you have to factor in ball park factors in handicapping, like Phil Hughes, shit stain in Yankee stadium, put him in Target, he's Cy Young. Tyson Ross can pitch anyplace, but Petco doesn't hurt his cause.
Know this, there is a new wave of a dozen starters that are electrifying.
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sbrhedge
SBR MVP
01-18-11
1354
#20
Free baseball!
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I/O
SBR Hall of Famer
05-26-11
7922
#21
Originally posted by stevenash
Tyson Ross dealing too.
9 K's in the fourth
Garza 1 hitting the Mets in the sixth.
I don't give a shit that chicks dig the long ball, pitching duels get me hot.
If you don't like good pitching, you just don't like baseball.
...
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boomerbust
SBR Sharp
04-07-12
457
#22
Originally posted by stevenash
Well yeah, some of why he has success, you have to factor in ball park factors in handicapping, like Phil Hughes, shit stain in Yankee stadium, put him in Target, he's Cy Young. Tyson Ross can pitch anyplace, but Petco doesn't hurt his cause.
Know this, there is a new wave of a dozen starters that are electrifying.
Uhhh... Kluber is not a southie, but progressive does have home run tendencies to right which makes him better than the stats show.
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HardCore
SBR MVP
06-05-12
3615
#23
whaaat...theee...fuuuukkk
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65722
#24
Originally posted by boomerbust
Uhhh... Kluber is not a southie, but progressive does have home run tendencies to right which makes him better than the stats show.
My point was about left hitters
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brooks85
SBR Aristocracy
01-05-09
44709
#25
Originally posted by stevenash
Do it like this.
Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
(Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)
You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
34 starts.
1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.
I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.
Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.
Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.
The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)