About how many customers do the big name Sportsbooks have?

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  • Otters27
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    • 07-14-07
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    #1
    About how many customers do the big name Sportsbooks have?
    Talking 5dimes, Bovada, Betdsi ect...
  • Euripides
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    • 06-28-14
    • 51

    #2
    One million?

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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Impossible to say

      Active customers probably in the upper thousands
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      • tony_come
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        • 03-31-10
        • 21695

        #4
        More than one for sure
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        • Otters27
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          • 07-14-07
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          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Impossible to say

          Active customers probably in the upper thousands
          Has to be more than upper thousands.
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          • ItsMeMrMattE
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            • 08-30-10
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            #6
            easily over 10,000 i would think.
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            • Art Vandeleigh
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              • 12-31-06
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              #7
              The Bookmaker streak contest shows about 12,500 accounts (probably includes all Bookmaker books such as DSi, Justbet, etc)

              Probably for every account playing there's at least one that doesn't bother, don't you think?
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              • ItsMeMrMattE
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                • 08-30-10
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                #8
                theres around like 300,000,000 people in the US. lets say only 1% of that population alone, i think its much higher than that tho, places bets regularly or just on highly televised games every once and a while. thats 3,000,000 people. if there were 300 major offshores with equal customers thats 10,000 per sportsbook. obviously theres not 300 major sportsbooks with equal customer base, but if you just take into account 3-4 of the major books as mentioned above. i would have to say over 10,000 customers is a safe guess. but idk.
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                • k13
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                  • 07-16-10
                  • 18104

                  #9
                  1% don't bet online
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                  • Dirty Sanchez
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                    • 03-01-10
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Otters27
                    Talking 5dimes, Bovada, Betdsi ect...
                    You a Fed? None of your fukkin business
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                    • ItsMeMrMattE
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                      • 08-30-10
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by k13
                      1% don't bet online
                      you think less? and thats just numbers going off the US. betting online is international. whats your guess on active accounts, lets say that meaning at least one bet in the last 2 months, at 5dimes alone?
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                      • captrobey
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                        • 09-02-10
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                        #12
                        15,693 .5
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                        • rangerz2478
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                          • 08-06-12
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                          #13
                          Keep in mind many of these books have sister sites. Bookmaker/dsi were mentioned, but even 5dimes has sister sites like sportbet and asianbookie.
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                          • combination lock
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                            • 01-08-13
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                            #14
                            Anybody else paranoid about a hit being put out on them for winning too much? I've taken a book for 20k plus I still have a balance for 35k... can't you find a hit man for 10-20k? It would be cheaper for the book to off me right?? Anybody else concerned about this kind of risk management from 3rd world countries?
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                            • SportsMushroom
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                              • 09-28-10
                              • 4177

                              #15
                              Originally posted by combination lock
                              Anybody else paranoid about a hit being put out on them for winning too much? I've taken a book for 20k plus I still have a balance for 35k... can't you find a hit man for 10-20k? It would be cheaper for the book to off me right?? Anybody else concerned about this kind of risk management from 3rd world countries?
                              pretend to be hitman, offer to off yourself for 20k, collect both as hitman and customer
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                              • combination lock
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                                • 01-08-13
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                                #16
                                That's illogical brah
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                                • drjohn
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                                  • 06-29-14
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by combination lock
                                  Anybody else paranoid about a hit being put out on them for winning too much? I've taken a book for 20k plus I still have a balance for 35k... can't you find a hit man for 10-20k? It would be cheaper for the book to off me right?? Anybody else concerned about this kind of risk management from 3rd world countries?
                                  When a book feels like you are winning too much, they'll just limit your action to peanuts ...
                                  Takes about 5 seconds and 1 mouse click ... much more practical than hiring hitmen ...
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                                  • rangerz2478
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                                    • 08-06-12
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by combination lock
                                    Anybody else paranoid about a hit being put out on them for winning too much? I've taken a book for 20k plus I still have a balance for 35k... can't you find a hit man for 10-20k? It would be cheaper for the book to off me right?? Anybody else concerned about this kind of risk management from 3rd world countries?
                                    lol
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                                    • mattle
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                                      • 06-29-14
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tony_come
                                      More than one for sure
                                      ^ i think you might be right
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                                      • vividjohn45
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                                        • 11-21-10
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by combination lock
                                        Anybody else paranoid about a hit being put out on them for winning too much? I've taken a book for 20k plus I still have a balance for 35k... can't you find a hit man for 10-20k? It would be cheaper for the book to off me right?? Anybody else concerned about this kind of risk management from 3rd world countries?
                                        Sbr casino starts to shade you at 1500 bettors points. I.e. rigged. U do have to worry about that.
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                                        • sayethwhaaat
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                                          • 06-30-14
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Otters27
                                          Talking 5dimes, Bovada, Betdsi ect...
                                          They aren't even the big name sportsbooks but you would think they would have 100k + members

                                          Bet365 and other UK books with all there other books are definitely in the hundreds of thousands if not going beyond a million each.
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                                          • zizoudane10
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                                            • 03-27-12
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                                            #22
                                            Three.
                                            Three would be more than enough when your clients are Brock, Seaweed and lakerboy.
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              The smaller books usually have about 600 or less active players

                                              Baseball numbers drop drastically
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                                              • sourtwist
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                                                • 11-10-12
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                                                #24
                                                Couple new accounts made just to post in this thread
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                                                • LordVodka
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                                                  • 08-17-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  I don't think it's as many as people think. For example BetDSI has a streak contest. I haven't played in forever and I am in 4400 place. That means they have around 5,000 members.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Account Holders vs active account holders is totally different

                                                    Could be 20k account holders and 2k active meaning a bet per week
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                                                    • unluckysob
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                                                      • 05-21-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      my guess at 5ds---football 15,000 active---basketball 10,000active---baseball 5,000 active
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                                                      • BigBusiness
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                                                        • 09-16-12
                                                        • 3226

                                                        #28
                                                        wow you guys are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.

                                                        the small peasant sites have around a max of 300-400 active. They are usually the ones that end up calling the living shi out of you trying to get you to deposit.

                                                        Heritage has 4,500 active due to their invitational sign ups only

                                                        The big ones like 5 dimes and bookmaker have around 20,000 active.

                                                        The biggest by far is pinnacle which has around 140,000 active.
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                                                        • basket33
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                                                          • 03-01-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          BigBusiness how accurate is this data, do you count agent accounts for pinnacle?
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                                                          • Albert Pujols
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                                                            • 06-01-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by combination lock
                                                            Anybody else paranoid about a hit being put out on them for winning too much? I've taken a book for 20k plus I still have a balance for 35k... can't you find a hit man for 10-20k? It would be cheaper for the book to off me right?? Anybody else concerned about this kind of risk management from 3rd world countries?
                                                            Wow, I'm speechless.
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                                                            • Albert Pujols
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                                                              • 06-01-10
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                                                              #31
                                                              I think the estimates on here are way low. I would bet that there are way over a million US customers at each of the big books.
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                                                              • Libanese
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 06-30-14
                                                                • 220

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                                I think the estimates on here are way low. I would bet that there are way over a million US customers at each of the big books.

                                                                A million is a bit high.

                                                                318 million people in the US.

                                                                Figure 50% of them are female (who notoriously don't bet sports)

                                                                Figure of the 160 million males 1/3 are under the age of 18.

                                                                Figure another 1/5 of these are over the age of 80 and don't even know what the internet is.

                                                                We now have 80 million people.
                                                                (I rounded numbers to factor in people in Nevada)

                                                                Numbers say that 17% of these people will place a sporting bet this year. That leaves us with 14 million.

                                                                Of those 14 million, you subtract 22% because of economical situations. We now have 10 million.

                                                                So 10 million people that will place at least one bet during the year somewhere. Illegal bookmakers still make up more than 50% of all sports betting...agreed?

                                                                5 million people that will make one bet that won't be made through a local book.

                                                                Divide that number between the 25 or so offshore books and I am going to say average book has 200,000 clients.
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                                                                • ItsMeMrMattE
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                                                                  • 08-30-10
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  im still sticking with my guess of easily over 10,000 probably closer to 20,000 of active bettors, which i define as putting in at least one bet in the last 2 months. and this just being at 5dimes alone.
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                                                                  • gauchojake
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                                                                    • 09-17-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    The big guys have the market share with the US facing books. Small books hoping to get to a 1000 customers. Peanuts compared with Asian and euro books.
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                                                                    • vividjohn45
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                                                                      • 11-21-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Count all sbr posters. And divide by 20 airbets. This will give u. A fairly accurate figure.
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