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  • tipsadontlikehim
    SBR MVP
    • 11-14-13
    • 2569

    #36
    USA will defend during 90 minutes to get a draw but a 1-0 Germany would not be unlikely

    actually i see no reason to play anything on this match, too much speculation, you have to be addicted to bet on this
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    • KalouKalou
      SBR MVP
      • 01-14-11
      • 1848

      #37
      Originally posted by GoBlue77
      rookie.

      if you're in love with a draw, you wait for a team to score and then the other team would be +odds higher than that not to mention the odds for a draw. LIVE BETTING
      Dude it's soccer, if they don't push forward you will never have an opportunity to bet in live betting with a scoreless draw. If they score why not put more money in live betting with better odds.

      You have to push your analysis more than that and manage the game pregame and in live betting.
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      • ap1ftw
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-22-14
        • 671

        #38
        i LOVE live betting in soccer
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        • Conqueror
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-08-13
          • 16778

          #39
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          Draw is likely because Germany would rather have USA advance than Portugal or Ghana.
          Not really. Neither Portugal nor Ghana will make the semi-finals.
          Other things to know:
          1) Germany lost to the US in the last meeting. A revenge may be in store.
          2) Should Klose play, a goal by him would make him the highest goal score in World Cup history. I don't see him getting a scoring opportunity and deliberately refusing to score.
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          • JRoZe410
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-17-10
            • 250

            #40
            Im trying to get USA+1 on 5dimes.I can only get +.5, +1 -107?Is that getting +1?
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            • GT21Megatron
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-20-13
              • 10818

              #41
              Originally posted by Salmonman
              Germany 3-1 USA
              Yup and Ghana will roll and US misses the next stage....you watch

              us loses 3-1 Ghana wins were out
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              • James Marques
                SBR MVP
                • 03-04-14
                • 1605

                #42
                Originally posted by GoBlue77
                rookie.

                if you're in love with a draw, you wait for a team to score and then the other team would be +odds higher than that not to mention the odds for a draw. LIVE BETTING
                Live betting with ridiculous hidden chalk. Good call buddy.
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                • thefonzo
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-10-10
                  • 671

                  #43
                  In the event that both games do NOT draw, isn't the loser of USA/Germany almost a lock (barring two blowouts) to advance by tie breaker via either head to head or goal differential???
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                  • thefonzo
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-10-10
                    • 671

                    #44
                    Originally posted by GT21Megatron
                    Yup and Ghana will roll and US misses the next stage....you watch

                    us loses 3-1 Ghana wins were out
                    So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
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                    • ChalkyDog
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-02-11
                      • 9598

                      #45
                      Originally posted by thefonzo
                      So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
                      GD is first tie breaker, H2H is 2nd.
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                      • KalouKalou
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-14-11
                        • 1848

                        #46
                        Originally posted by thefonzo
                        So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
                        Exactly
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                        • thefonzo
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-10-10
                          • 671

                          #47
                          So is soccer the only only sport on earth that DOESN'T use H2H as first means of a tie break?

                          Gonna be a lot of confused/pissed Americans if we tie with Ghana and they advance!
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                          • ChalkyDog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-02-11
                            • 9598

                            #48
                            Originally posted by thefonzo
                            So is soccer the only only sport on earth that DOESN'T use H2H as first means of a tie break?

                            Gonna be a lot of confused/pissed Americans if we tie with Ghana and they advance!
                            USA is very likely to still advance. In a very good situation. Just sucks, because we were less than a minute from already advancing and putting pressure on Germany.
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                            • mcdonae101
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-02-14
                              • 3646

                              #49
                              76% chance America advances according to espn
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                              • JMUplayer
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-27-09
                                • 2765

                                #50
                                Ghana Portugal could be an exciting offensive game...
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                                • Ballerholic
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-16-13
                                  • 2767

                                  #51
                                  I'd take draw or Germany. Should be a lock
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                                  • ChiLLx
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-24-11
                                    • 5412

                                    #52
                                    Draw option is no longer being offered on 5dimes
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                                    • riffraff24
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                                      • 04-20-11
                                      • 7234

                                      #53
                                      Under
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                                      • riffraff24
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-20-11
                                        • 7234

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by ChiLLx
                                        Draw option is no longer being offered on 5dimes
                                        yes it is. probably just went down for a minute
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                                        • WildCelticsFan
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-19-14
                                          • 5420

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                          USA is very likely to still advance. In a very good situation. Just sucks, because we were less than a minute from already advancing and putting pressure on Germany.
                                          I wouldn't say "very likely", Ghana wins 2-1, Germany wins 2-0, boom bye bye USA
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #56
                                            Well surely they will want to avoid playing Belgium? Top of group will get to play Algeria - not easy but on paper easier than BelgiuM!
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                                            • nskokov
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 06-16-14
                                              • 30

                                              #57
                                              You're assuming Russia won't beat Algeria? I wouldn't be scared of Algeria, but Russia has a solid team. They're goalie let in a softie against South Korea and they played Belgium neck and neck today. I think they've only given up like 5 goals in their past 14 games or something ridiculous like that.

                                              They'll give any team a good low scoring battle.

                                              But yeah, would still rather play them or Algeria then Belgium.
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                                              • addictedto
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-03-08
                                                • 1935

                                                #58
                                                This is good only for hedging purposes before KO, otherwise I would not let it ride on the draw when the Germans attack
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                                                • addic3t
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 03-07-14
                                                  • 369

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by thefonzo
                                                  So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
                                                  a) greatest number of points obtained in all the group matches;
                                                  b) goal difference in the group matches;
                                                  c) greatest number of goals scored in the group matches.
                                                  These are the basic rules to determine progression and separate performance.
                                                  However, the rulebook continues:
                                                  If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their ranking will be determined as follows:
                                                  d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
                                                  e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
                                                  f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
                                                  g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82841

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                    Draw is likely because Germany would rather have USA advance than Portugal or Ghana.
                                                    I don't think you understand how World Cup works. Germany would rather have Ghana advance so they can knock out possible opponents for Germany down the road.
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82841

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by thefonzo
                                                      So is soccer the only only sport on earth that DOESN'T use H2H as first means of a tie break?

                                                      Gonna be a lot of confused/pissed Americans if we tie with Ghana and they advance!
                                                      They look at H2H in World Cup but between all 3 games the teams played. If Ghana beats Portugal by 2 and US loses by 2 then Ghana is in. That means Ghana didn't lose to a team US lost and beat a team US didn't beat. That's why H2H between 2 teams is meaningless.
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                                                      • vasilli07
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-08-11
                                                        • 3955

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        They look at H2H in World Cup but between all 3 games the teams played. If Ghana beats Portugal by 2 and US loses by 2 then Ghana is in. That means Ghana didn't lose to a team US lost and beat a team US didn't beat. That's why H2H between 2 teams is meaningless.
                                                        Ghana just need a 2 goals win and a US loss to qualify. Ghana will then have a +1 GD and US 0.
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          I don't think you understand how World Cup works. Germany would rather have Ghana advance so they can knock out possible opponents for Germany down the road.
                                                          The current odds seem to support what I said though. Germany only -123, Draw only +178 at Pinny. Both seem out of whack based on true ability of these teams.
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                                                          • bsutphi
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-12-10
                                                            • 183

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            I don't think you understand how World Cup works. Germany would rather have Ghana advance so they can knock out possible opponents for Germany down the road.
                                                            You're telling me Germany would rather have Ghana advance, so that they will knock out some heavyweights (Argentina, Brazil, Netherlands, etc.) only to have to play a hot, confident team that has beat a bunch of favorites? I think your reasoning there is flawed. And I don't think Ghana has any better chance of pulling upsets in the round of 16 than the US does.

                                                            Even if it would benefit Germany for Ghana to advance, to say that it would affect their strategy or preparation for this game is laughable.

                                                            One thing that a lot of you are overlooking is Germany has not clinched the round of 16 yet. Although unlikely, Ghana and USA could advance from the group if USA were to beat Germany and Ghana beat Portugal by a 3-4 goals. The only scenario that guarantees Germany and USA to advance is a draw. Therefore, I expect a slow game with very few shots of goal or even tackles. Both teams will be playing for the draw. It will be like a game of chicken.
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                                                            • RMStanley
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-03-11
                                                              • 824

                                                              #65
                                                              US team should bring orange slices and Hi C boxes to share with the Germans. They can just have a laugh and errbody moves on happily.
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                                                              • Darkside Magick
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-28-10
                                                                • 12638

                                                                #66
                                                                521 Germany (World Cup) -0.5 (-140) -136. Ov 2.5 (110)

                                                                522 USA (World Cup) +0.5 (+125) +1018. Un 2.5 (-125)

                                                                The ML on Usa is crazy!
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                  521 Germany (World Cup) -0.5 (-140) -136. Ov 2.5 (110)

                                                                  522 USA (World Cup) +0.5 (+125) +1018. Un 2.5 (-125)

                                                                  The ML on Usa is crazy!
                                                                  You didn't show the Draw
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                                                                  • imadegen
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-30-11
                                                                    • 1261

                                                                    #68
                                                                    germany is playing unreal. not looking good for good ol u.s.a, but i hope they prove me wrong.
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                                                                    • Darkside Magick
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-28-10
                                                                      • 12638

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                      You didn't show the Draw
                                                                      Draw is +183 right now
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                                                                      • WildCelticsFan
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 05-19-14
                                                                        • 5420

                                                                        #70
                                                                        take Germany at 1.71 this is a gift, youd be dumb not to take it
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