NBA Draft coming up soon

[ChalkyDog]

Yup, Embid is in free fall.

This preselects Wiggins at 1 and moves everyone up. Exum and Smart make this interesting.

Embid could still land 8-10, IMO.

[crustyme]

lakers should take embiid if he falls to 7.

[ChalkyDog]

lakers should take embiid if he falls to 7.

I think this is a real possibility actually.

I personally wouldn't touch this guy until 20 or later. I was already on the fence with him with his back. Add in a foot? That is a combo of the two most debilitating injuries for a big to recover from, and often enough one of those problems has taken careers often enough to make it an issue.

If you're the Lakers and Smart or Exum are gone. I can see them taking a shot.

Also, the fact that he will be there, most likely (more will be determined in the coming days) might make a team like Minny more apt to jump into that spot. Hoping to maximize their loss of KLove.

[Cuse0323]

That makes things interesting. I hope that means Exum moves up to the top 3 and not in Orlando.

[Dirty Sanchez]

ya it sounds like a shit situation if you are a jayhawks fan....but did you expect the guy to look out for himself and family or kansas? think about how everyone was questioning clowney and his "motor" after a kind of subpar year....and then you think and look back and remember that there were people telling him he should sit out the year to avoid injury because he was the surefire top pick

First..not a Jayhawk fan but living up the road and betting on B-ball I get the see/hear a lot when you're that close and normally it was more where's there smoke there's fire mentality with Embiid. The guy seemed to always be crying wolf with every little injury...no matter what he says now. The news aside from today about a foot injury, the guy was always whining about something, and Self would do the politically correct thing and protect him, but you could tell he was frustrated with his act. Wiggins on the other hand would be out there busting his ass at every turn no matter what happened which was the polar opposite of Embiid which said a lot about him. Embiid was decent, and his shot blocking and dunks who very good, but as far as an offensive game he couldn't throw in the ocean from 10 feet out...and guys like Noah, Howard, and Company will kill him in the NBA....just my opinion. Dude is very thin, and needs to get in the weight room ASAP...and Thabeet is a very accurate comparison mark my words

[ChalkyDog]

That makes things interesting. I hope that means Exum moves up to the top 3 and not in Orlando.

Exum has to be the guy that moves up.

I would be shocked to see embid go past the Lakers pick.

[Cuse0323]

Exum has to be the guy that moves up.

I would be shocked to see embid go past the Lakers pick.

You would think but Wiggins and Parker may go 1/2 now so does Philly take another PG with MCW there?

I still take Embiid top 3 myself unless this is career ending.

Noel/Embiid twin towers in Philly then get a shooter at 10.

[ChalkyDog]

You would think but Wiggins and Parker may go 1/2 now so does Philly take another PG with MCW there?

I still take Embiid top 3 myself unless this is career ending.

Noel/Embiid twin towers in Philly then get a shooter at 10.

I have had people tell me they think Exum can easily be a SG in the league. I think they're fukkin' nuts. He can't shoot or score at an elite enough level to be taken that high for that role.

Who knows now. I think Philly has to go with Vonleh or Gordon or maybe even Embid at 3 now.

[KRIT]

I would happily take Embid at 8-10. The Sixers just took Noel with the 6th overall pick and he didn't play a minute in his rookie year, and Noel isn't even in Embid's league.

Most these teams that can have a pick at Embid will suck anyways, does it really matter that much if he sits out for part of the season? He is a special player when healthy, not very often do gifted centers come around in the draft.

[Cuse0323]

I have had people tell me they think Exum can easily be a SG in the league. I think they're fukkin' nuts. He can't shoot or score at an elite enough level to be taken that high for that role.

Who knows now. I think Philly has to go with Vonleh or Gordon or maybe even Embid at 3 now.

Yeah, zero chance he's a shooting guard when he can't even shoot 30% from deep. MCW and Exum in the back court would be a disaster probably. Going big then getting a SG at 10 seems like the best bet. I'm big on Vonleh and Gordon.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

embid = greg oden 2.0

[LT Profits]

So now Wiggins and Parker will go 1-2 but the question becomes in what order.

[Cuse0323]

Think Wiggins has to be number 1. Nice fit for Cleveland.

[bob6199]

Think Wiggins has to be number 1. Nice fit for Cleveland.

Wiggins makes more sense, they already have guys who can score, Wiggins can develop and doesn't have to come right in and score right away, like he would he goes to the bucks.

[ChalkyDog]

Yeah, zero chance he's a shooting guard when he can't even shoot 30% from deep. MCW and Exum in the back court would be a disaster probably. Going big then getting a SG at 10 seems like the best bet. I'm big on Vonleh and Gordon.

One of Vonleh/Gordon and Dougie/Stauskas/Harris and they've done well. Embid is still hard to pass up. You don't want to miss.

[k13]

Watched Exum. ...He looks unimpressive and un athletic.

Draft should be fun.

[KRIT]

What position will Gordon play in the NBA? Is he big enough to play the PF? He will have to learn something other than dunking and out-running people down court. Then again, I said the samething about Blake Griffin his rookie year.

[ChalkyDog]

What position will Gordon play in the NBA? Is he big enough to play the PF? He will have to learn something other than dunking and out-running people down court. Then again, I said the samething about Blake Griffin his rookie year.

I'd play him at the 4. He's athletic enough to guard guys bigger than him and he is actually still growing.

If he tries to play the 3 too early, he could run into trouble. Kid is a gamer, bottom line.

[meader99]

Once they go pro, my give a shit level drops to zero. I'm a college follower. NBA blows and it's no coincidence that it has to do with early entries.

[Cuse0323]

It's great and all that some people hate the NBA, to each their own. Some of us don't and don't need to hear about how bad it is from the haters.

[Cuse0323]

I'd play him at the 4. He's athletic enough to guard guys bigger than him and he is actually still growing.

If he tries to play the 3 too early, he could run into trouble. Kid is a gamer, bottom line.

I think he is a perfect 4 for the NBA today. He probably will never be a shooter but that's alright, the rest of him game and athleticism is NBA ready.

[Cuse0323]

I think he is a perfect 4 for the NBA today. He probably will never be a shooter but that's alright, the rest of him game and athleticism is NBA ready.

Would love the Magic to get him and put him next to Vucevic.

Opps meant to edit, quoted myself.

[Dollars2Donuts]

If I am drafting 1st I am taking Parker, unless my specific needs call for something otherwise.

I LOVE Embid, but I would not take that big a chance. He career could easily be a very short one. I see the upside....he has barely played the game and literally imporoved every day.....and he is likable and coachable.....still, a little scary for a top 3 pick for me.

I am Canadian, and I wish Wiggins was as good as the hype. I watched a ton of him this year and did not see anything that would make me believe that he is a top three pick. With another year or two in college he may have become what everyone thinks he is now, but I worry that he goes to the NBA and stops learning (as happens so often in today's game).

Parker is going to be a VERY solid guy. Slightly less upside, but with him I believe that I KNOW what I am getting.

It will be one of the more interesting drafts in the last decade and I will be watching....I think this could be a draft that a lot of teams look back upon and regret.

D2D

[Cuse0323]

Good points, D2D. Parker is definitely the safest pick, what you see is what you get. I think Wiggins is built for the league though, a player that can make shots and create his own from anywhere on the floor. Parker is relentless attacking the rim though and strong enough to handle the NBA already. Gonna be fun, haven't looked forward to a draft like I am this one, in a long time.

[KRIT]

If I am drafting 1st I am taking Parker, unless my specific needs call for something otherwise.

I LOVE Embid, but I would not take that big a chance. He career could easily be a very short one. I see the upside....he has barely played the game and literally imporoved every day.....and he is likable and coachable.....still, a little scary for a top 3 pick for me.

I am Canadian, and I wish Wiggins was as good as the hype. I watched a ton of him this year and did not see anything that would make me believe that he is a top three pick. With another year or two in college he may have become what everyone thinks he is now, but I worry that he goes to the NBA and stops learning (as happens so often in today's game).

Parker is going to be a VERY solid guy. Slightly less upside, but with him I believe that I KNOW what I am getting.

It will be one of the more interesting drafts in the last decade and I will be watching....I think this could be a draft that a lot of teams look back upon and regret.

D2D

Parker will be the better scorer, but I think Wiggins will be the better all around player. The problem with Wiggins is right now he doesn't do anything great, he just does a lot of things really well.

And I agree that this could be a draft of regret and surprises. There is tons of talent in this draft, and unlike most drafts, you can get a good player at the end of the first round.

[ChalkyDog]

Parker is incredibly safe. The comparisons to Melo are on point, IMO.

I think you get exactly that with Parker. A slightly poorer version of Melo with a way better attitude and head on his shoulders.

Wiggins would still be my pick at 1. I think he is one of those guys who is built much better for the NBA. Cuse might be able to speak better on this, but think of MCW in college. Good, but I think even the most optimistic Cuse fan didn't expect him to breakout like he did in the NBA so quickly. There is more room to work with in the NBA, and thats where those uber-athletic playmakers flourish.

You probably don't go wrong with either.

[ChalkyDog]

As an aside:

Cuse, you see that coaching ranking series ESPN is doing in the CBB section?

Ranked Boeheim 12th, Sean Miller 11th, Kevin Ollie and Marshall will be top 10.

Boeheim and Roy Williams ranked outside the top 10 coaches right now.

Absolute load of shite. Marshall has two really good seasons and Ollie has the quintessential fluke run of a lifetime. They both come in ahead of the 2nd winningest coach and a guy with mutliple titles. GTFO with that nonsense.

[tony_come]

Nba draft is worthless

[jjgold]

Nba rookies donf have much impact anymore in the NBA

Game has changed

Nba rosters tough to crack

I think wiggins can hold his own in 1st year

[cane]

I think Parker is the most NBA ready player. The thing is, teams typically don't draft the "sure thing". Instead they usually go for the guy with the "high ceiling", the guy with the incredible vertical. Teams love drafting great athletes with potential, that's why I think Wiggins goes number one, even though right now Parker is the better player. You guys want a good drinking game, during the draft, have a drink every time someone uses the phrase "high ceiling", "tremendous upside", or "incredible athlete", you'll be sloshed by the tenth pick.

[jjgold]

Parker was schooled in college
Even small schools owned him
That's what scares me about him
Also he lacks killer

[ChalkyDog]

Parker was schooled in college
Even small schools owned him
That's what scares me about him
Also he lacks killer

Not sure which shift JJ this is, but that's a fair point.

Parker often played bad when matched up against former pro's. Who knows though, I still think he is a lock for future All-star.

[jjgold]

He is a softer and less talented grant hill type

Time will tell

He is real young so maybe that's why he was a little timid this past year.

[KRIT]

Reports saying Embid is out 4-6 months.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Reports saying Embid is out 4-6 months.

Like I said earlier...I would not walk away from him...I would run