Better all-time coach: Gregg Popovich or Phil Jackson?

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  • The Giant
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    • 01-21-12
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    #1
    Better all-time coach: Gregg Popovich or Phil Jackson?
  • No coincidences
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    • 01-18-10
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    #2
    Pops and it isn't even close.

    Better psychologist? Jackson.
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    • t-wizzle
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      • 12-18-09
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      #3
      Not a fair comparison.

      Pure basketball is Pop. NBA requires a ton of motivational skills and Jackson was the best.
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      • Scorpion
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        • 09-04-05
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        #4
        Gregg Popovich

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        • Seaweed
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          • 01-19-12
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          #5
          Jackson
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          • BigDofBA
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            • 09-30-09
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            #6
            Pop.

            Jackson had Kobe, Jordan, Shaquille, and Pippen.

            Pop has some stars but he makes all the role players play way better than they should.
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            • Roadtrip635
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              • 12-07-10
              • 6129

              #7
              Jackson had the best player on the planet each time.
              Pop has done it in different ways, grind it out half court game and uptempo spread it out style. Pop adapts to what he has and makes it work.
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              • mcdonae101
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                • 03-02-14
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                #8
                If u think Jackson, ur a fukin idiot. No wonder seaweed pikd him
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                • BigDofBA
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                  • 09-30-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                  Jackson had the best player on the planet each time.
                  Pop has done it in different ways, grind it out half court game and uptempo spread it out style. Pop adapts to what he has and makes it work.
                  this.

                  Maybe Jackson is a better "psychologist" but hell, if I had Jordan and Pippen and Kobe and Shaquille in their primes I would probably look like a good psychologist as well.
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                  • LT Profits
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                    • 10-27-06
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                    #10
                    Easily Pop.

                    Jackson had more great players to work with.

                    Popovich has won using different styles, he always caters his teams' playing style to its personnel rather than forcing a style that may not jive with his roster.
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                    • Scorpion
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                      • 09-04-05
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      Easily Pop.

                      Jackson had more great players to work with.

                      Popovich has won using different styles, he always caters his teams' playing style to its personnel rather than forcing a style that may not jive with his roster.
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                      • Scorpion
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                        • 09-04-05
                        • 7797

                        #12
                        Pop A+++
                        Jackson B-
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                        • Roadtrip635
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                          • 12-07-10
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                          #13
                          Pop is the better psychologist as well, he gets everyone to buy in to "the system" and check their egos at the door.
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                          • ChalkyDog
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                            • 10-02-11
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                            #14
                            I'm biased but give me Phil all day.

                            Pop has my 100% respect and easily one of the guys I'd tell my kids about. I just think Phil is at the top and will be for a long long time.
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                            • Romocide
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                              • 09-14-11
                              • 1404

                              #15
                              You could argue that the superstars that Jackson coached made him.

                              On the flip side,you could argue that Parker and Ginobli wouldn't have become half the stars that they did without Pop. Duncan was gonna be a star no matter who coached him.

                              Gotta give the coaching nod to Pops easy.
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                              • homie1975
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                                • 12-24-13
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                                #16
                                What about auerbach
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                                • homie1975
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                                  • 12-24-13
                                  • 15289

                                  #17
                                  One thing to consider

                                  phil 11 rings
                                  jordan 6
                                  kobe 5
                                  shaq 4

                                  Phil 5 rings without jordan
                                  phil 6 rings without shaq and kobe

                                  jordan kobe shaq rings without phil = 1
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                                  • Cuse0323
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                                    • 12-09-09
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                                    #18
                                    Pop all day. Phil is great but the players he had it's tough not to be. Pop molded teams into champions.
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                                    • Simon Gruber
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                                      • 05-02-13
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                                      #19
                                      I'll take Derek Fisher over both of em.
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                                      • smitch124
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                                        • 05-19-08
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                                        #20
                                        Well if Jackson wins with the Knicks, as the coach de facto in a puppet regime. He will be the best of all time. Without that, they are pretty even.
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                                        • The Giant
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                                          • 01-21-12
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                                          #21
                                          Interesting debate.

                                          Everyone says Phil Jackson had superstars, but sometimes those are the hardest ones to coach. Shaq and Kobe hated each other, and still won titles. They didn't win any before him. Same with Michael Jordan, he didn't even sniff the finals until Jackson arrived.

                                          I don't really think there is a wrong answer between the two coaches.
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                                          • TheMoneyShot
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                                            #22
                                            It was a great run for Pop. I don't think he'll win anymore championships. Yes, San Antonio had an amazing playoff team this year. This won't ever happen again. Pop even knows it. Miami just wasn't hungry enough and didn't match up well with the Spurs.

                                            You can argue Jackson had plenty of superstars... but you still have to coach them in different areas of the game. I personally don't know how Jackson does it. Looks like just a simple guy. I know Jackson had more firepower than Pop... but you still have to coach that firepower. My pick would be Jackson.
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                                            • Seaweed
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                                              #23
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                                              • akphidelt
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                                                • 07-24-11
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                                                #24
                                                Lol, Tim Duncan might be the best power forward/center in the history of the NBA and Parker one of the best PGs and future hall of famer... and you are blaming Phil for having great players and Pop for winning with nobodies? Pop and Phil are both great coaches with systems and styles that can make great players play within a system. But both require great players.
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                                                • Harold Baines
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                                                  • 03-20-12
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                                                  #25
                                                  I'd take Pop hands down. To me, winning another ring at this stage of Duncan's career is pretty remarkable. The guy is one hell of a coach and also a great talent evaluator who knows how to make everything work without the ability to go out and buy the 'best' players.
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                                                  • SeanL69
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                                                    • 05-31-14
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                                                    #26
                                                    Is this the guy that benched Duncan with :30 sec in a game 6 championship game?
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      • 07-20-05
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                                                      #27
                                                      Pop ..landlside
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                                                      • No coincidences
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                                                        • 01-18-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                                        Pop is the better psychologist as well, he gets everyone to buy in to "the system" and check their egos at the door.
                                                        I don't know if I'd go that far. Phil somehow got a lot of egomaniac superstars to work together. That takes more than getting the more pedestrian stars to "buy in."

                                                        I'm a huge Pops fan and think Jackson is vastly overrated, but I'll give credit where credit is due when it comes to this.
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                                                        • No coincidences
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Giant
                                                          Interesting debate.

                                                          Everyone says Phil Jackson had superstars, but sometimes those are the hardest ones to coach. Shaq and Kobe hated each other, and still won titles. They didn't win any before him. Same with Michael Jordan, he didn't even sniff the finals until Jackson arrived.

                                                          I don't really think there is a wrong answer between the two coaches.
                                                          Exactly.
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Pop much better person
                                                            zero ego

                                                            Jackson complete opposite
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