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  • Woody
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-27-09
    • 218

    #106
    111Resevil777- I am not a shill for Oskeim. I don't care if you become a member or not. I am a member and will defend his records listed on his website as being correct. I am not going to let opinions about his service stand without showing facts to back them up. I follow other service beyond Oskeim that are all monitored by a third party and if allegations arise about their service I would also defend the records. If you look at this board, there are plenty of handicappers who sell plays that do not list their plays nor are they monitored. How many times has someone been burned by Doc Sports and their misleading marketing or ATS Consultants or a dozen others that claim to have certain records but fall short when listing them for the world to review.

    Raiderguy - Jeff does a lot of marketing, I will concede that I cannot comment on his advertising of the Syndicate plays before I was a member.

    Andthewinner- I have been gambling for well over 25 years on sports. There are books that take 50 K on games every day. Pinnacle will welcome you with open arms. Depending on the sports and the available lines, most books could care less, unless you are taking shots at them or chasing steam. I currently have many outlets that would take 10 k on a side if I wanted to risk the $. You could also go to Vegas and spread your plays out to various outlets. Its a lot harder than it used to be, but there are players that do it every day. Personally, I have a set bankroll and play within my means. When I was young and dumb like you, I thought differently about sports betting. Betting big was fun until I had a few bad weekends. I learned some hard lessons over the years.I just wasn't dumb enough to go on a public forum and expose my idiotic opinions to the world to read.
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    • ANDTHEWINNERIS
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-06-08
      • 508

      #107
      Originally posted by Woody
      111Resevil777- I am not a shill for Oskeim. I don't care if you become a member or not. I am a member and will defend his records listed on his website as being correct. I am not going to let opinions about his service stand without showing facts to back them up. I follow other service beyond Oskeim that are all monitored by a third party and if allegations arise about their service I would also defend the records. If you look at this board, there are plenty of handicappers who sell plays that do not list their plays nor are they monitored. How many times has someone been burned by Doc Sports and their misleading marketing or ATS Consultants or a dozen others that claim to have certain records but fall short when listing them for the world to review.

      Raiderguy - Jeff does a lot of marketing, I will concede that I cannot comment on his advertising of the Syndicate plays before I was a member.

      Andthewinner- I have been gambling for well over 25 years on sports. There are books that take 50 K on games every day. Pinnacle will welcome you with open arms. Depending on the sports and the available lines, most books could care less, unless you are taking shots at them or chasing steam. I currently have many outlets that would take 10 k on a side if I wanted to risk the $. You could also go to Vegas and spread your plays out to various outlets. Its a lot harder than it used to be, but there are players that do it every day. Personally, I have a set bankroll and play within my means. When I was young and dumb like you, I thought differently about sports betting. Betting big was fun until I had a few bad weekends. I learned some hard lessons over the years.I just wasn't dumb enough to go on a public forum and expose my idiotic opinions to the world to read.
      I'm growing tired of the hate speech in here, "young and dumb like you" You have no idea who I am, or what my intellectual level is, and I have reported you for hate speech, so if, and hopefully you are banned, it will be 1 more hater off the board, that can't seem to get in a dialogue without hating.
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      • 111resevil777
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-13-14
        • 446

        #108
        Where's the monitored plays?
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        • Raiderguy101
          SBR MVP
          • 12-20-11
          • 2569

          #109
          I just looked at his site and there's no picks since the 10th. Did he not play anything the past few days? If he did updating a few days after is bullshit. They should be put in a few minutes after the games start if it wants to be taken seriously.
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          • Woody
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-27-09
            • 218

            #110
            111Resevil777- All of his plays are listed on his website. Also I think he is monitored by Capper Watch and he was being monitored by Oklahoma Sports Monitor.

            Raiderguy101- Please give your idiotic comments a rest. There were not any plays that met his handicapping criteria the past few days. Unlike the scam artists you follow, he doesn't pimp picks every day to make $. If Oskeim releases a play, most of the time, once the game has started he will list the play and show pending until the final results. If you don't see a play listed its because he did not release one. I am sure he appreciates you visiting his website.
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            • JF301
              SBR MVP
              • 11-06-13
              • 1880

              #111
              Originally posted by Raiderguy101
              I just looked at his site and there's no picks since the 10th. Did he not play anything the past few days? If he did updating a few days after is bullshit. They should be put in a few minutes after the games start if it wants to be taken seriously.
              He has passed last few days. I'm sure he's monitoring his capping to get out of his slump before he releases any client plays. Sent a long email a few days ago apologizing for his recent slump and hasn't released any plays since. Show's credibility IMO. Not just throwing plays out to chase or get clients.
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              • ANDTHEWINNERIS
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-06-08
                • 508

                #112
                Originally posted by Woody
                111Resevil777- All of his plays are listed on his website. Also I think he is monitored by Capper Watch and he was being monitored by Oklahoma Sports Monitor.

                Raiderguy101- Please give your idiotic comments a rest. There were not any plays that met his handicapping criteria the past few days. Unlike the scam artists you follow, he doesn't pimp picks every day to make $. If Oskeim releases a play, most of the time, once the game has started he will list the play and show pending until the final results. If you don't see a play listed its because he did not release one. I am sure he appreciates you visiting his website.
                Woody, not sure what your agenda is, but does everyone that has a different opinion than you become an idiot? Your hard to believe, simply because anyone that serves up a notion that you don't believe, makes them an idiot. Please find a way to keep things civil, and maybe your input would have more merits
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                • Raiderguy101
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-20-11
                  • 2569

                  #113
                  Originally posted by JF301
                  He has passed last few days. I'm sure he's monitoring his capping to get out of his slump before he releases any client plays. Sent a long email a few days ago apologizing for his recent slump and hasn't released any plays since. Show's credibility IMO. Not just throwing plays out to chase or get clients.
                  Thanks JF for the explanation.

                  And penetrate you woody. You have some major reading comprehension problems. Read my post once again. I asked if he had any plays with a ? And explained "if he did"....

                  Go penetrate yourself shill. I've never seen anybody defend a guy to the death like you. If anybody disagrees, you attack. Brush up on your reading comprehension bro.
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                  • Woody
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-27-09
                    • 218

                    #114
                    Raider- " If he did updating a few days after is bullshit". If you were not trying to put Oskiem service in bad light, your post could have easily read " I didn't see any new plays on website the past few days, did he release any? I read fine, go penetrate yourself.

                    My agenda is simple, for years the same clowns have been coming on this site trying to drag Oskeim service through the gutter. With all their allegations, they have never presented one bit of evidence that the plays he releases or listed his website are wrong. I own a small business and I would be pissed off if people went around spreading lies about my business. I will be happy to allow this thread to die if posters don't keep making comments that I deem need a response.
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                    • Raiderguy101
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-20-11
                      • 2569

                      #115
                      I can word it the way I want. It's not my fault you have reading comprehension problems. Go read it again. There's nothing wrong how I worded it.

                      I had oskeim for approximately 4-5 months. I did not make money. Bottom line. I also didn't know he would play so many high ML plays. I wish that was in the fine print.
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                      • 111resevil777
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 02-13-14
                        • 446

                        #116
                        Interesting 3 baseball plays yesterday (0-3) and all against major steam moves?
                        May's not looking good 9-20
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                        • oneguy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-14-13
                          • 1063

                          #117
                          It seems like Woody is more than a happy customer since he not only defend but also endorse this Oskeim guy. And this Oskeim guy looks more like a marketing guru than a sports betting guru.
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                          • Woody
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-27-09
                            • 218

                            #118
                            111Resevil777- Your statement just confirms my argument about Oskeim service. There have been accusations regarding him stealing plays from other handicappers. ( 0-3) yesterday and all against major steam. If he was stealing plays, he would have followed someone else's picks and been on the same side of the steam. May is not looking good ( 9 - 20). You are correct, the plays Oskeim has released in May are not good and are shaping up to be a bad month for him. If his website plays are not correct, then he would have surely omitted the past two weeks of losing plays. Win or lose, he lists the plays for everyone to review.

                            Oneguy - Oskeim is a long term winner, all handicappers have their ups and downs. I am here to defend his record as being correct. I have had losing weeks and months but by the end of the year, I will be positive $. I am a long term player, I find you will go through many services jumping on and off every time they have a bad week. I wish you luck who ever you decide to follow.
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                            • 111resevil777
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-13-14
                              • 446

                              #119
                              As far as stealing plays we'll have to wait and see once the NFL starts and top plays can be compared, I never saw Oskeim the handicapper only the Oskeim who spent tons of money buying plays from Root, Strike Point and a few others pre service days I also remember him always asking for Big Als plays, in my opinion if your a great handicapper you should make enough playing your own plays. For a service who I guess has been around for 7 years I've never seen his plays anywhere, I don't care what you sign however that is done info would still leak out. Indian cowboy and ace-ace were posting for free in forums back then and built a reputation. What I see from Oskeim is all smoke like yesterday and today #1 plays and 100% angles, plays of the week and month I remember those gimmicks from the 80's. I saw him at another monitoring site being 41-39 -3095 (not including the price of his service) the past 30 days it goes with what others who purchased his service as saying he plays to many favorites, The SBR forum seems to be the most popular now, he'll get exposure, Oskeim has come up with a barrage of claims and nifty sayings now lets see if he can live up to them!
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                              • Woody
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-27-09
                                • 218

                                #120
                                111Resevil777- I really don't know where you come up with your bullshit lies. " Spent $ buying plays from Root, Strike Point and Others." I am sorry but no one in their right mind, service or player would follow plays released from Root. There is not one handicapper on Doc's site worth a nickel. Indian Cowboy and Ace - Ace giving picks for free. Does anyone really risk their hard earned money on their releases. There is a reason not one handicapper on Doc's site is monitored or lists their plays on Doc's website to review after there release. Asking for Big Al's plays? Come on. The truth is anyone can get on a public forum as write anything they want and your last thread are nothing but lies. His clients don't post his plays out of respect for his service. I follow numerous services who's plays are not on the forums and I am happier that they are not. The services posted on this site and others are for fade only players.
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                                • 111resevil777
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-13-14
                                  • 446

                                  #121
                                  My goodness you have such a hard on for this guy. Call him and ask him he was a regular at ATS in 2005 posting Root and Strike Point and always requested Big Als plays! I guess your boytoy isn't in his right mind then!
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                                  • goirishgo
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 11-22-11
                                    • 485

                                    #122
                                    This is so sad. Oskeim was a hero at statfox.com and there were probably thousands following him.

                                    And then it was realized that he fabricated the hell out of his record. And then he went tout.

                                    This guy has the morals of a sewer rat. Oddly enough, he seems to be cool being a complete dirtball. Go for it Woody.
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                                    • Woody
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 01-27-09
                                      • 218

                                      #123
                                      I am not sure how you are a hero on any forum. Lots of guys start of forums releasing plays, build up a following and go tout. If they aren't honest and produce winners for their clients, it doesn't take long to fail. Oskeim gave up a attorney profession to become a full time handicapper. He supports his wife and child on his service so obviously their are many out there that do not agree with your statement. You really need to let the statsfox.com glory days go. When was the last time anyone mentioned statsfox, 20 years ago? I think every play Oskeim has released since 2010 is on his website, every play is correct and you continue to dislike the guy because of something he said or did on statsfox. Hell resevil777 is still worried about Oskeims post on a non exist forum back in 2005. The bottom line is if you don't like his service then follow someone else, I am sure he will be just fine without you as a client.
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                                      • 111resevil777
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 02-13-14
                                        • 446

                                        #124
                                        Woody the stalker!...lol I checked out your boy toys site and I have to say I've never seen so many 100% systems and angels listed, this person must never lose, every ad is the same he just changes the day???? what a scam! I have to admit it's the first time I've ever seen a tout ask for tips, simply amazing!
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                                        • oneguy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-14-13
                                          • 1063

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Woody
                                          111Resevil777- Your statement just confirms my argument about Oskeim service. There have been accusations regarding him stealing plays from other handicappers. ( 0-3) yesterday and all against major steam. If he was stealing plays, he would have followed someone else's picks and been on the same side of the steam. May is not looking good ( 9 - 20). You are correct, the plays Oskeim has released in May are not good and are shaping up to be a bad month for him. If his website plays are not correct, then he would have surely omitted the past two weeks of losing plays. Win or lose, he lists the plays for everyone to review.

                                          Oneguy - Oskeim is a long term winner, all handicappers have their ups and downs. I am here to defend his record as being correct. I have had losing weeks and months but by the end of the year, I will be positive $. I am a long term player, I find you will go through many services jumping on and off every time they have a bad week. I wish you luck who ever you decide to follow.
                                          Woody, thanks. But you know who I follow already. One of them is about to win back all the losses from the recent losing streak. The one right after an 8-0 run. That's long term right there. Look at the recent run and tell me you are not drooling over it hahaha. Just kidding man.
                                          The other one, still mediocre. Sigh. Still waiting for that amazing run that they have been talking about.
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                                          • Woody
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-27-09
                                            • 218

                                            #126
                                            Oneguy- I am very optimistic about our recent find. As you know, we have been burned before but hoping for positive long term results. Nice bang today.

                                            Reevil777- I know oskeim appreciates you keeping an eye on his website. Your insight into his service has been noted. Keep us all updated if anything else catches your eye. Your a real asset to this forum, I don't know what we would do without you.
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                                            • TheMagicMan
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 07-18-13
                                              • 267

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Woody
                                              111Resevil777- Your statement just confirms my argument about Oskeim service. There have been accusations regarding him stealing plays from other handicappers. ( 0-3) yesterday and all against major steam. If he was stealing plays, he would have followed someone else's picks and been on the same side of the steam. May is not looking good ( 9 - 20). You are correct, the plays Oskeim has released in May are not good and are shaping up to be a bad month for him. If his website plays are not correct, then he would have surely omitted the past two weeks of losing plays. Win or lose, he lists the plays for everyone to review.

                                              Oneguy - Oskeim is a long term winner, all handicappers have their ups and downs. I am here to defend his record as being correct. I have had losing weeks and months but by the end of the year, I will be positive $. I am a long term player, I find you will go through many services jumping on and off every time they have a bad week. I wish you luck who ever you decide to follow.
                                              Woody, you are on here every chance to constantly defend Oskiem sports. Why not post his plays 5 mins after start? That's not illegal. All value is gone and Oskiem and his Bull Sh!t legal doc can shove it. Nothing he can do about posting plays 5 mins after tip. Prove he Is legit. Post plays, odds and size.

                                              I have NEVER seen another poster stick up for a service more than:

                                              YOU for Oskiem
                                              747Plane for Betting Resource
                                              Utilted for PGF/Tiger/Sheep


                                              All your posts are defending these services. I don't trust anything these fools say. . 99% of posts defend these services. Such a joke! This is your warning!!!!!!!!

                                              Prove me wrong?
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                                              • Woody
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 01-27-09
                                                • 218

                                                #128
                                                I am not Oskeim Sports. If you look at his website, the plays he releases for the day are listed as pending 10 minutes after they start. I don't see the point of wasting my time posting them a second time here. If I do see a play that incorrect, I am happy to let the forum know. 747Planes is Bettingresource, I get their plays daily. I do not risk any $ on their plays and mostly send them to my trash bin. When I do glance at them I guess he has his good days and bad like everyone else. If I am a client and a services record is monitored, I will defend the records listed if they are correct. I would defend any service I follow if people are making statements that I deem untrue.
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                                                • Woody
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-27-09
                                                  • 218

                                                  #129
                                                  MagicMan- I just read the bottom of your post. " This is your warning?" Please feel free to expand on that statement. This is a public gambling forum, the bottom line is I really don't care what you think of Oskeims service, my comments or anything else.
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                                                  • TheMagicMan
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 07-18-13
                                                    • 267

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Woody
                                                    MagicMan- I just read the bottom of your post. " This is your warning?" Please feel free to expand on that statement. This is a public gambling forum, the bottom line is I really don't care what you think of Oskeims service, my comments or anything else.
                                                    If you don't care what I say then why are you commenting to my post????

                                                    Seriously, maybe you just have the "Look at Me" syndrome.
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                                                    • 747planes
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-25-13
                                                      • 658

                                                      #131
                                                      I am not bettingresource but i do defend them here because they ask their clients to stick up for them. There are more than a handful of posters from this forum that follows bettingresource religiously but they don't get involved in this forum.

                                                      As for services like oskiem, statsman, highrollerplays...they all won for a short period of time when the resold bettingresource plays but they are all banned from bettingresource now and they will never win. BR is the only reliable service out there. IF woody claims that he gets br plays and disagrees with their posted record, he clearly has a hidden agenda.
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                                                      • Woody
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-27-09
                                                        • 218

                                                        #132
                                                        Magicman- I was commenting because you said " you have been warned". In my opinion, this thread is 3 pages too long. I am happy to let this thread die.

                                                        747Planes- There isn't a service in the world that bought your garbage plays to tried to resell them as their own. You didn't ban anyone. Too be honest, I do get your plays but stopped keeping track a while ago. I do have them all saved in my trash bin. One thing I don't really understand about betting resource. If you are so good why not have your plays monitored by a third party. Cappers Watch or Handicapper Watchdog would allow you to list the under dog money lines that you release. They are inexpensive and it would allow the world to verify your records. I guess, I could go through the mess of your releases, but honestly I don't really care what your plays are. I am starting to believe there is a reason these services are not monitored and its not because they are good.
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                                                        • 111resevil777
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 02-13-14
                                                          • 446

                                                          #133
                                                          Let's see shill yesterday which play was the 100% offshore steam and which was the 100% Vegas steam? doesn't matter they both LOST! what happened to the 100% basketball play? This person preaches honesty it's amazing the same ads are listed again more 100% nonsense all he does is change the days. The stock market crash is now at 9-22 for May, start earning the second income that you deserve!
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                                                          • ANDTHEWINNERIS
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-06-08
                                                            • 508

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by 111resevil777
                                                            Let's see shill yesterday which play was the 100% offshore steam and which was the 100% Vegas steam? doesn't matter they both LOST! what happened to the 100% basketball play? This person preaches honesty it's amazing the same ads are listed again more 100% nonsense all he does is change the days. The stock market crash is now at 9-22 for May, start earning the second income that you deserve!
                                                            here is another way he is cooking the books. Go back and look at his past picks. he has his own tracking, believe the results or not, which isn't the purpose of this. The purpose is to show where he himself only declares picks 1 to 5 units being tracked. However since the first of this year, he has snuck in 3 plays of 6*, naturally they were all winners for a collective +14 units. No 6* losers applied to the results, it is being done to boost pedestrian number. If you remove those plays, that he himself deem not to belong there, HE IS NEGATIVE FOR THE YEAR! and if you do count them, he is still about breakeven for the year, at best, and that is saying the numbers and games are 100% accurate, and by the addition of 6* plays here, that by his own rules don't belong, how can you trust the rest is right?
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                                                            • JF301
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-06-13
                                                              • 1880

                                                              #135
                                                              This thread has gotten just a little bit out of hand. Lol.

                                                              He releases 6* plays to clients once in a blue moon. Those plays are not "snuck" in there and the records are accurate. If you go back and track the results, you will see 6* losers as well.
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                                                              • ANDTHEWINNERIS
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-06-08
                                                                • 508

                                                                #136
                                                                Ok here is the truth for 2014 for Oskeim Sports. (at least if the past results he has listed are accurate, what we know is they are not going to be worse than what he has done, and they might lie to the better, but let's assume they are accurate 100%). here is a guy wagering 600% more on 1 play than another. Anyone wise in the industry, knows that is absolutely fatal, unless you can prove a 6 unit pick carries 6 times the value of a 1 unit pick. Well, in his case, through 2014 as of last night, it doesn't work, it is all marketing! If you take every 6,5, and 4 unit pick he has made this year (January-present), those 4,5, and 6 unit picks are a very deceitful, and shameful 56.25% winners at 45-35-4 ATS! That winning percentage would be in the top 0.25% of all handicappers world wide. There is one problem. That 45-35-4 ATS record at 56.25% HAS GENERATED NEGATIVE UNITS! IN OTHER WORDS, HE IS LOSING MONEY AT 56.25% ON HIS TOP 3 LEVELS OF PLAYS! Moreover, this in and of itself shows his incompetence, or more likely his taking advantage of unsuspecting clients! Not only are you paying through the nose to get the plays, YOUR LOSING ON HIS TOP LEVEL PLAYS at 56.25%...WHY? Because he doesn't play to -110 odds, and nowhere on the site will it say that! This keep in mind, is contingent on the fact that his past games archive are even real, but am assuming they are. I'm not casting judgement here, letting the reder decide for himself based on the facts as presented on his own website, but to say they raise red flags, would be an understatement.
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                                                                • ANDTHEWINNERIS
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-06-08
                                                                  • 508

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by JF301
                                                                  This thread has gotten just a little bit out of hand. Lol.

                                                                  He releases 6* plays to clients once in a blue moon. Those plays are not "snuck" in there and the records are accurate. If you go back and track the results, you will see 6* losers as well.
                                                                  Thanks for the clarification, I have done that in the above post, and they lose!
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                                                                  • JF301
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-06-13
                                                                    • 1880

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS
                                                                    Thanks for the clarification, I have done that in the above post, and they lose!
                                                                    Yes, he is on current losing streak and releasing high ML plays is the reason I stopped playing his picks. Glad I stopped, or I would be in the hole with him.

                                                                    Every service has ups and downs. I'm sure he will get out of this slump and have positive units at the end of the year. Time will tell...
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                                                                    • 111resevil777
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 02-13-14
                                                                      • 446

                                                                      #139
                                                                      How does this con man get away with posting the same crap every night and just changing the days????? every night is 100% this 100% that, both 100% plays lost last night so he comes back and just changes the title to Thursday 100%??????
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                                                                      • goirishgo
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 11-22-11
                                                                        • 485

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Woody begs people for proof that Oskeim is dishonest. Then I point out that his huge following on statfox completely collapsed when it was proven that he had a completely fabricated record.

                                                                        Woody's response? "That website is irrelevant and noone goes there anymore". That doesn't really negate a fact now does it?

                                                                        I have proof. Oskeim lied and completely fabricated his record on statfox before he went tout.

                                                                        You can't win with this shill asshole.
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