SBR World Poker Cup 2014: Represent your country!

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  • Triple_D_Bet
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-12-11
    • 7626

    #71
    Originally posted by Optional
    I'm looking forward to the challenge of making a real world team too.

    I bet the old world players take 5 or 6 of the 12 spots now we know we need to fight for a spot from the start!
    Good point Opti, something to be said for last year's World performances being less motivated by ease of making the team. Nothing you'll have to worry about though, you would have made it last year even under the new rules
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    • GUMMO77
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-23-10
      • 9294

      #72
      Originally posted by Pareto
      So SBR is rewarding mediocrity now.

      Well in these Obama times I guess its the political correct thing to do. We cant have all these non-americans winning all those points just because they are better than US players. Thats not fair. We need to redistribute the wealth. Give the US more teams, so that even when they finish 3rd and 4th they will end up with a bigger piece of the pie.

      And if you keep adding US teams then at some point you might even win 2nd place.
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      • aceking
        SBR MVP
        • 09-07-05
        • 4782

        #73
        with 2 teams now , USA has 50% chance of being last again .

        4 years in a row !
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        • sinmiedo
          SBR MVP
          • 03-10-10
          • 2698

          #74
          an idea for the future:
          SBR poker team championship

          SBR will select team leaders per say, Gummo, Jake , Autodonk, The money shot, Bitemyusdj, Smitch124, Triple D , etc and then according to the handicap given by the SBR player rating make up the teams.
          Again, just a thought.
          Best regards to all
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82715

            #75
            Originally posted by Pareto
            So SBR is rewarding mediocrity now.

            Well in these Obama times I guess its the political correct thing to do. We cant have all these non-americans winning all those points just because they are better than US players. Thats not fair. We need to redistribute the wealth. Give the US more teams, so that even when they finish 3rd and 4th they will end up with a bigger piece of the pie.

            And if you keep adding US teams then at some point you might even win 2nd place.
            The 12 guys who qualified for the US last year had twice as many points accumulated as the 12 guys from Europe or World. So it's not fair for all the US guys to have to play on every single tourney just to accumulate points and qualify when someone from Europe or World can play for 2 weeks and qualify with 7 cashes.

            So if Europe and World are as good as you claim they have nothing to fear and beat both US teams and Canada and win the 5,000 point top prize (which will buy you a $150 gift card once you roll it over 3 times..Obama is not going to like this giving freebies again).
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            • knight
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-13-13
              • 43

              #76
              Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
              Definitely better this way for the bulk of participants (US players), and at least provides a more balanced contest. The final tournament setup between the teams is too high-variance to be indicative of much (as previous years have proven), and the prizes are a bit underwhelming for a 3 month contest...but that's more than offset by the dailies I think. World Cup has always been more about filling the poker schedule during the summer, and at least this time around SBR listened to feedback and made some great changes...good stuff
              I miss when the dailies broke last September and they gave us freerolls. Unlimited entries per day, slightly smaller prizes. Those were good times.
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              • Triple_D_Bet
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-12-11
                • 7626

                #77
                Originally posted by knight
                I miss when the dailies broke last September and they gave us freerolls. Unlimited entries per day, slightly smaller prizes. Those were good times.
                Hrm, I don't remember that...guess I missed out! But SBR gives away plenty of points via the dailies they do run...any griping I do about formats is minor compared to the freebies they hand out hundreds of times a year, won't see me complaining about that
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                • thechaoz
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-23-09
                  • 12154

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                  walmart exchange rate 3150=100 bucks.....

                  pizza exchange rate roughly 2125 or 2250 = 100 bucks (i can't remember off hand whether pizza's are 425 for 20 bucks or 450, and i'm too lazy to go check)
                  Plus ALL the points you win and rollover which might match or beat what you earn in the tourney
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                  • Triple_D_Bet
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-12-11
                    • 7626

                    #79
                    Originally posted by thechaoz
                    Plus ALL the points you win and rollover which might match or beat what you earn in the tourney
                    All but 4 people who made the teams last year won far more points in the dailies than they did for being on the winning team. This year is a little shorter, but there's no doubt most players will end up in the same boat...the dailies are the real prize for participating
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82715

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                      All but 4 people who made the teams last year won far more points in the dailies than they did for being on the winning team. This year is a little shorter, but there's no doubt most players will end up in the same boat...the dailies are the real prize for participating
                      I just realized I cashed out 8500 points from the triathlon even though I didn't win any of the final prizes. People don't see the big picture. They just focus on the final prizes.
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                      • sinmiedo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-10-10
                        • 2698

                        #81
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        I just realized I cashed out 8500 points from the triathlon even though I didn't win any of the final prizes. People don't see the big picture. They just focus on the final prizes.
                        about the same here too.+9500
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                        • Auto Donk
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-03-13
                          • 43558

                          #82
                          Originally posted by sinmiedo
                          about the same here too.+9500
                          have the final results on that promo been posted? if so, where? who won? howd u turn out in blackjack, sin?
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                          • sinmiedo
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-10-10
                            • 2698

                            #83
                            Originally posted by auto donk
                            have the final results on that promo been posted? If so, where? Who won? Howd u turn out in blackjack, sin?
                            smtitch 124 won $4000
                            stuler $ 1500
                            me 9500 points THANKS TO POKER
                            danebalzer 5000 points
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                            • Auto Donk
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-03-13
                              • 43558

                              #84
                              awesome! congrats! and to stuler, smitch and db..... seem like a very deserving bunch! are the final results posted anywhere? (my dumbass found them....)

                              Id like to see who else did what.... and were there ever any blackjack results posted? where? (nevermind, my dumbass found these too)
                              Last edited by Auto Donk; 04-18-14, 07:17 PM. Reason: my dumbass found them
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                              • sinmiedo
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-10-10
                                • 2698

                                #85
                                Originally posted by auto donk
                                awesome! Congrats! And to stuler, smitch and db..... Seem like a very deserving bunch! Are the final results posted anywhere? (my dumbass found them....)

                                id like to see who else did what.... And were there ever any blackjack results posted? Where? (nevermind, my dumbass found these too)
                                yes, in the same page you will find them
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                                • Mitchell88
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-16-12
                                  • 4334

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by sinmiedo
                                  an idea for the future:
                                  SBR poker team championship

                                  SBR will select team leaders per say, Gummo, Jake , Autodonk, The money shot, Bitemyusdj, Smitch124, Triple D , etc and then according to the handicap given by the SBR player rating make up the teams.
                                  Again, just a thought.
                                  Best regards to all
                                  Great idea! that would be fun and something new. Would take a lot more thought than most of these other poker comps while this years World Championship seems better with rule change, still love that idea Sin for future.
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                                  • PaperTrail07
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 20423

                                    #87
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                                    • clynnm17
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-08-10
                                      • 1360

                                      #88
                                      ive gotta become a pro
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                                      • aceking
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-07-05
                                        • 4782

                                        #89
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                                        • horja1
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-13-11
                                          • 5646

                                          #90
                                          btw no Ipad for best player this year?
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by horja1
                                            btw no Ipad for best player this year?
                                            I asked, never heard anything back.
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                                            • horja1
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-13-11
                                              • 5646

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                              The previous structure (and to a lesser extent the upcoming one) reward mediocrity, by letting underperforming world players go into a brief, high-variance format on equal footing with dominant US players. Not a single person on the world or European teams last year could have made it onto team USA, or most likely even in the confederates of this year.
                                              BTW you do realize that us europeans mostly compete against eachother in the 3PM tourney? you will probably find some europeans in the 10AM tourney, some in the 7PM tourney and probably none in the 11PM tourney? Take a guess in how many tourneys you will find US people ...
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                                              • zwoeins
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-02-11
                                                • 279

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by horja1
                                                BTW you do realize that us europeans mostly compete against eachother in the 3PM tourney? you will probably find some europeans in the 10AM tourney, some in the 7PM tourney and probably none in the 11PM tourney? Take a guess in how many tourneys you will find US people ...

                                                yesterday all of Top 4 at 3PM were from team europe!
                                                Last edited by zwoeins; 05-23-14, 12:04 AM.
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                                                • Triple_D_Bet
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-12-11
                                                  • 7626

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by horja1
                                                  BTW you do realize that us europeans mostly compete against eachother in the 3PM tourney? you will probably find some europeans in the 10AM tourney, some in the 7PM tourney and probably none in the 11PM tourney? Take a guess in how many tourneys you will find US people ...
                                                  Seems unavoidable with most players being US, right? I'd support adding a 3 AM or 5 PM tourney more in line with world schedules, but I suspect you'd see similar proportions of US even then. As for competing against each other, vast majority of US competes against other US players too, so not sure that's any different.
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                                                  • bobbywaves
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-06-08
                                                    • 13280

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by sinmiedo
                                                    an idea for the future:
                                                    SBR poker team championship

                                                    SBR will select team leaders per say, Gummo, Jake , Autodonk, The money shot, Bitemyusdj, Smitch124, Triple D , etc and then according to the handicap given by the SBR player rating make up the teams.
                                                    Again, just a thought.
                                                    Best regards to all
                                                    Great idea...but I thought people were complaining these player ratings weren't accurate? Apparently SBR corrected problem & all player ratings are accurate now. If so, Tripe D's rating should b 1,400. Please confirm your rating Tripe. My rating below seems quite accurate.

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                                                    • Augustus
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-05-06
                                                      • 2787

                                                      #96
                                                      How do you modify your ratings to 2300?
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                                                      • bobbywaves
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-06-08
                                                        • 13280

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Augustus
                                                        How do you modify your ratings to 2300?
                                                        By playing exceptional poker apparently.
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                                                        • Mitchell88
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-16-12
                                                          • 4334

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Augustus
                                                          How do you modify your ratings to 2300?
                                                          fold everything, wait for the people who are trying to win knock each other out, use the timer to the last beep, play like a coward more or less. play like that you are guaranteed a 10th place all the time. Boring but true
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                                                          • bobbywaves
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 05-06-08
                                                            • 13280

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Augustus
                                                            How do you modify your ratings to 2300?
                                                            Pay tight aggressive, don't push all in with Q,4 off like Mitch.

                                                            I assume Mitch has an accurate 1400 rating.
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                                                            • Mitchell88
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-16-12
                                                              • 4334

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                              Pay tight aggressive, don't push all in with Q,4 off like Mitch.

                                                              I assume Mitch has an accurate 1400 rating.
                                                              probably, Bobby can I have 100pts. Thanks bud
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                                                              • bobbywaves
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-06-08
                                                                • 13280

                                                                #101
                                                                What interest rate u looking for?
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                                                                • Triple_D_Bet
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-12-11
                                                                  • 7626

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                  Great idea...but I thought people were complaining these player ratings weren't accurate? Apparently SBR corrected problem & all player ratings are accurate now. If so, Tripe D's rating should b 1,400. Please confirm your rating Tripe. My rating below seems quite accurate.

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                                                                  There's several good reasons why these systems aren't widely used to rate poker players...but let's not kid ourselves bobbo, you're extremly ill-equipped to understand any of the math or basic poker theory behind it. Recognizing which of 2 numbers is higher (regardless of context) seems to be the extent of your math skills

                                                                  Originally posted by Augustus
                                                                  How do you modify your ratings to 2300?
                                                                  Apparently, play Omaha H/L exclusively so even though you get raked for 10-20% of your chips, you're a "winner"

                                                                  It seems the rating system is a consolation prize for those who can't put up the big numbers for winning actual points...why am I not surprised to find Bobbo at the top of another meaningless rating system with $0 and 0 points reward? Unreal...guy's proud that he's sitting in the front seat of the short bus
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                                                                  • bobbywaves
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-06-08
                                                                    • 13280

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                                    There's several good reasons why these systems aren't widely used to rate poker players...but let's not kid ourselves bobbo, you're extremly ill-equipped to understand any of the math or basic poker theory behind it. Recognizing which of 2 numbers is higher (regardless of context) seems to be the extent of your math skills



                                                                    Apparently, play Omaha H/L exclusively so even though you get raked for 10-20% of your chips, you're a "winner"

                                                                    It seems the rating system is a consolation prize for those who can't put up the big numbers for winning actual points...why am I not surprised to find Bobbo at the top of another meaningless rating system with $0 and 0 points reward? Unreal...guy's proud that he's sitting in the front seat of the short bus
                                                                    A simple screen shot with your 1400 rating would have sufficed Tripe, no need to defend your poor rating.
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                                                                    • Auto Donk
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-03-13
                                                                      • 43558

                                                                      #104
                                                                      bobby::coward::ducking::waves:ussy::excuses
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                                                                      • Triple_D_Bet
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 12-12-11
                                                                        • 7626

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Appreciate you covering for me while I'm on vacation donk, keep it up for a few more days if you would and I'll be back to resume the apparently endless task of trying to show bobby what the rest of us know
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