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OptionalAdministrator
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Cuse0323BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
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#74WarComment -
tb1984SBR MVP
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#75Unless it's a trick question, like others said craps odds are the best bets.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
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GunShardSBR Posting Legend
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#78Comment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#79Quintessential attention whore thread.Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
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#81Nomination(s):
It's a bewildering, eerie feeling being accused of attention whoring by The likes of RussianRacket and InthestinkThis post was nominated 3 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Russian Rocket, InTheDrink, and capitalist pig
It was my intent to stimulate discussion about good casino bets in this thread, because look how many posters think War is a good betComment -
GiveMeaBJSBR Hall of Famer
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#82Can ya tell us?Comment -
Russian RocketSBR Aristocracy
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#83Nomination(s):
It's a bewildering, eerie feeling being accused of attention whoring by RR and InthestinkThis post was nominated 3 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Russian Rocket, InTheDrink, and capitalist pig
It was my intent to stimulate discussion about good casino bets in this thread, because look how many posters think War is a good betComment -
GiveMeaBJSBR Hall of Famer
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#85Outrage.Comment -
ScurvyPirateSBR Sharp
- 12-15-11
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#86If your counting and you have a good hand, perhaps. This should be interesting!
I personally never take it. I will however take even money from time to time depending on different scenarios.Comment -
byronbbSBR MVP
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James MarquesSBR MVP
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#89What an idiotic thing to say. Even if you have a huge edge on a count, you'll surely get backed off the table. Counters are notorious for their perfect strategy when the count is not in their favor. Someone who is playing flawless strategy blackjack that all of a sudden takes insurance? Backed down without question. I can't believe I read through 80-something posts just to see that nonsense.Comment -
Cuse0323BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#90Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
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#91What an idiotic thing to say. Even if you have a huge edge on a count, you'll surely get backed off the table. Counters are notorious for their perfect strategy when the count is not in their favor. Someone who is playing flawless strategy blackjack that all of a sudden takes insurance? Backed down without question. I can't believe I read through 80-something posts just to see that nonsense.Comment -
mikejammSBR Posting Legend
- 08-24-09
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#92What a fuk'in idiot!Your best bet in a casino centaurshit, is you'll be giving blow jobs the the bathroom to recoup your losses!
Dumbest fuk'in attention whore thread ever.
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InTheDrinkSBR Posting Legend
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#93Nomination(s):
It's a bewildering, eerie feeling being accused of attention whoring by The likes of RussianRacket and InthestinkThis post was nominated 3 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Russian Rocket, InTheDrink, and capitalist pig
It was my intent to stimulate discussion about good casino bets in this thread, because look how many posters think War is a good bet
Especially when you posted the "answer"Comment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#94Centy is about to pull the rip cord for tonight. He'll be back tomorrow to explain.Comment -
KaabeeSBR MVP
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#96When a team wins a football/basketball game they combine the scores of each quarter and the team with the most points wins. A baseball game they combine the scoring nine innings in each of the nine innings.
Not sure why the word combine is a game changer for you. You can't make a vig free odds bet without the initial investment so how can they be separate?
Please answer this question Kaabee, if the two are separate bets why do casinos offer 5x odds others offer 10x odds and others offer 100x odds'? The casino only allows you to make an odds bet directly related to the amount of the pass line bet. If they are two separate bets How can bet one directly restrict what your allowed to do on bet two?? How do separate bets restrict your next completely independent bet?
a bet on team A at -150 is not the same bet as betting team A at -120 (same game).Comment -
James MarquesSBR MVP
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#97
If I could get even odds on a blackjack bet (where I push if both the dealer and I bust, essentially) and it only cost me throwing down $5 commission per hand at $500 a bet... Sign me up.Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
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#98James Marques, you are right that this will bring heat, but so does any bet that the house loses on, so that's unavoidable
Yes, counting cards, preferably with a 1 or 2 deck game, if you are using a solid count there will be opportunities, especially in the later hands, when the dealer draws an upcard ace and the deck is very positive
Say you are using a 3 level count (tens are +3, aces are side counted, 5s are -3, etc.) on a single deck and after dealing the 2nd round the dealer is showing an ace. You can see the cards for the players on either side of you and determine the deck has a running count of +15 and there are around 16-17 cards remaining that are unseen (in the dealer's hand and downcard).
In this scenario the remaining tens is about equal to the remaining non tens. Since insurance pays 2 to 1, you are getting paid 2 to 1 on an even money bet. What I have done in the past is take insurance, say I think he's due, and ask the other players if you can take their insurance. Sure its a red flag, but if it loses the suits are happy ur such an idiot, and if it wins you move along to another table or casino soon after.
I'm not saying you can make a living doing this, but it's good ammo to have in a casino. If you are betting $100/hand and the other 2 players are as well, that's $150 in insurance you can bet with an expected return of $75 profit per $150 bet.
If you are watching friends play you can also back count and take his/her insurance when the opportunity comes up, I have done this plenty.
Sure there are bets like calling with a pat royal flush in carribean stud, but those chances are already included in your initial ante bet.
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James DSBR MVP
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#99^^^^^
just saw answer. Not going to even comment
Glad i popped back into sbr
Insurance in BJ loses about 98% of the time. I anxiously await the logic. I figure we will get it about halfway through the NBA playoffsComment -
James MarquesSBR MVP
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#100Cent what you're saying makes very little sense. One: in a single deck game, you won't know anyone else's cards. Two: if you feel they're "due?" Come on man, you're smart enough to see through that fallacy. Three: any sound strategy that exists in counting is gone. The casinos are just too good at spotting it now. You'll be backed down every time. It wouldn't be worth the risk of being banned when (not if, when) you get caught.Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
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#101Cent what you're saying makes very little sense. One: in a single deck game, you won't know anyone else's cards. Two: if you feel they're "due?" Come on man, you're smart enough to see through that fallacy. Three: any sound strategy that exists in counting is gone. The casinos are just too good at spotting it now. You'll be backed down every time. It wouldn't be worth the risk of being banned when (not if, when) you get caught.Comment -
James MarquesSBR MVP
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#102
Look, I used to love gaming blackjack. When I was a kid in AC, it was like free money. Trust me when I say this, blackjack is unbeatable today in any casino worth a crap.Comment -
James MarquesSBR MVP
- 03-04-14
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#103I played blackjack at the Bellagio less than two months ago. Played it straight, just for fun, but of course I'm watching angles. At one point, during a really high count (especially for 6 deck), I watch some drunk frat kid stumble up to the table to put $200 on one hand ($25 min table). Now this kid had no clue, but he got hemmed up so fast, everyone at the table (fairly sharp crew) knew what I was thinking: their damn computers count way better than you do. And he only spread 8 x the table min. Imagine how they would hem you up over a 10 x min insurance bet at +EV!Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
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#105While not quite hole-carding, it's virtually the same thing. Hole carding IS cheating. Looking at other players' isn't, but it is a certain ban. Nevermind the lousy odds those 1-2 deck games are offering now. At 6/5, no surrender, no dbl after split, no aces, hit soft 17, yada yada... I'd play mega millions before I played a one or two deck game.
Look, I used to love gaming blackjack. When I was a kid in AC, it was like free money. Trust me when I say this, blackjack is unbeatable today in any casino worth a crap.
Yes I realize these days card counting has lost it's effectiveness, I have been booted for counting also
I think you can play with the count in mind and make some cover bets so you can pounce on the insurance opportunitiesComment
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