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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Explain this to me
    UMass was a 6 seed in the A-10 Tournament and didn't even reach the finals.

    New Mexico won the Mountain West, beating SDSU in the finals.

    Yet UMass is > than New Mexico in the eyes of the committee? Minutemen are a 6 seed in the NCAA Tournament; New Mexico is a 7.

  • t-wizzle
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-18-09
    • 38099

    #2
    That kind of puts it in perspective but as I'm sure you know they are unrelated.

    I'm confused as well though. I thought for sure New Mexico was a 5. UMass was looking like closer to a 10.
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    • No coincidences
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-18-10
      • 76300

      #3
      Originally posted by t-wizzle
      That kind of puts it in perspective but as I'm sure you know they are unrelated.

      I'm confused as well though. I thought for sure New Mexico was a 5. UMass was looking like closer to a 10.
      I know they're mutually exclusive, but it makes zero sense to seed UMass higher than NM.
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      • RollinDo
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-04-13
        • 13322

        #4
        Well, I've got N. Mexico in Elite 8. Will play them as dogs after 1st round.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65646

          #5
          Doesn't make sense, Louisville is a 4 seed and Wichita State who played nobody is a 1 seed.
          Wichita State is 1976 Rutgers. (look up 1976 Rutgers team)
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            Originally posted by stevenash
            Doesn't make sense, Louisville is a 4 seed and Wichita State who played nobody is a 1 seed.
            Wichita State is 1976 Rutgers. (look up 1976 Rutgers team)
            I understand your point re: Wichita's schedule, but they were a FF team that basically returns everyone from a year ago (as well as Van Vleet, who was a reserve last season). There is a track record there.

            If you want to use Louisville as a basis for comparison, they didn't play anyone this year either. SOS is 96th; Wichita's is 111th.
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            • jtoler
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              • 12-17-13
              • 30967

              #7
              No it doesnt make sense and Im sure to justify it Im sure they said well UMass beat UNM, still UNM's resume is better.
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
                • 30967

                #8
                Originally posted by stevenash
                Doesn't make sense, Louisville is a 4 seed and Wichita State who played nobody is a 1 seed.
                Wichita State is 1976 Rutgers. (look up 1976 Rutgers team)
                Beat Tenn, BYU, and beat Tulsa and Saint Louis on the road, thats 4 tourney teams.
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                • thetrinity
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-25-11
                  • 22430

                  #9
                  im equally perplexed as to how san diego st is a 4 seed when new mexico is a 7 seed. st louis is not a 5 seed in my eyes either
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                  • BigDeem5
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-26-11
                    • 17191

                    #10
                    You all are missing the real atrociousity, Syracuse as #3.. They've been putrid, deserved a 5-6. UCLA a #4 is laughable.

                    Some of these seedings are a joke.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65646

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigDeem5
                      You all are missing the real atrociousity, Syracuse as #3.. They've been putrid, deserved a 5-6. UCLA a #4 is laughable.

                      Some of these seedings are a joke.
                      I'm a UConn homer, but we are better than a 7 seed
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65646

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thetrinity
                        im equally perplexed as to how san diego st is a 4 seed when new mexico is a 7 seed. st louis is not a 5 seed in my eyes either
                        St. Louis defense is filthy
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                        • greenhippo
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-15-12
                          • 9091

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          Doesn't make sense, Louisville is a 4 seed and Wichita State who played nobody is a 1 seed.
                          Wichita State is 1976 Rutgers. (look up 1976 Rutgers team)
                          Hell yeah! WS to the Final Four!
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                          • floridagolfer
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-19-08
                            • 2757

                            #14
                            Ignore all the seeds the Committee assigns. They fudge these so much to avoid conference match ups in the early rounds, they're useless.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Committee did a horrific job this year

                              So many agendas against certain teams and coaches

                              system has to be revmaped
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                              • Djg401
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-22-14
                                • 177

                                #16
                                UCLA as a #4 is Laughable since they clearly deserve to be a 2 or 3 seed.

                                Also, The committee is full of retards and bias idiots who dont want to see teams like Wichita St. or Baylor make it far because NOBODY cares about those schools aka NO MONEY to be made in the Finals with 2 Who Cares programs
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                                • Deuce
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                                  • 01-12-08
                                  • 29843

                                  #17
                                  1 or 16 you have to beat everyone to win anyhow. Grab your onions.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65646

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Djg401
                                    UCLA as a #4 is Laughable since they clearly deserve to be a 2 or 3 seed.
                                    Yeah, Bruins were sneaky good all season.
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                                    • letsgo
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-27-10
                                      • 2204

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Deuce
                                      1 or 16 you have to beat everyone to win anyhow. Grab your onions.
                                      There are definitely easier paths than others.
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                                      • letsgo
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-27-10
                                        • 2204

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                        Ignore all the seeds the Committee assigns. They fudge these so much to avoid conference match ups in the early rounds, they're useless.
                                        They have first round rematches, they did a terrible job no matter how you look at it.
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                                        • convick
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-03-11
                                          • 3954

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                          Beat Tenn, BYU, and beat Tulsa and Saint Louis on the road, thats 4 tourney teams.
                                          OOC Umass beat 4 tourney teams, UNM beat 2. I looked at a few conference power rankings and all of them have the A-10 ranked 2-4 spots higher than the MW. It is evident that the committee loved the A-10 and viewed the MW as not much better or possibly worse than the WCC and MVC.
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                                          • KRIT
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-11-14
                                            • 12878

                                            #22
                                            UMass is easily the worst seeding in the tournament. How they are a 6, I have no idea. And Lobos got screwed too. Whoever wins the play in game will beat Umass.
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                                            • BoS_010
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 472

                                              #23
                                              I agree New Mexico is mis-seeded, especially when compared to San Diego St's position. But there will be "mistakes" every year. It's impossible to seed 68 teams with complete agreement. There's rules they use (doesn't get implemented all the time but most of the time) that causes some of the poor seeding. Location beats seeding IMO. Sure you might think you're a 3-seed but will you settle with a 4 and be closer to home to have some type of home court advantage instead?
                                              One final note I know everyone will disagree with: I'm fine with Louisville being a 4-seed. They didn't beat one quality opponent outside of their conference all year. With the Wichita St comparison, at least they went undefeated, Louisville lost 5 games. It is what it is.
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 71662

                                                #24
                                                I think New Mexico is appropriately seeded. Lobos had zero good road wins until the neutral site win over SDST and only three wins against the Top 50, two against SDST. Their OOC schedule was decent with KU, UMASS & Cincy.

                                                UMASS questionable, but I think slated there because of their record against the Top 50. 7-4.

                                                Committee seems fairly straight forward in their thinking. Have a solid RPI from a solid RPI conference, schedule legit OOC competition and have a handful of Top 50 wins if you want a solid seed/in the Dance.
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                                                • No coincidences
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                  • 76300

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                  Committee seems fairly straight forward in their thinking. Have a solid RPI from a solid RPI conference, schedule legit OOC competition and have a handful of Top 50 wins if you want a solid seed/in the Dance.
                                                  The committee needs to consult Vegas.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Vegas has the most accurate ratings in the world in all sports

                                                    its amazing
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