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  • bruins35
    SBR MVP
    • 09-19-11
    • 4011

    #1
    is michgan state the best team going into march madness?
    correct me if I am wrong because I don't follow ncaa that close but that mich state team last night looked like they could win march madness.I am thinking of betting them to win tourney long shot I know.If u think they don't have a snow balls chance in hell please let me know before I try this future bet!!!!!!!
  • STAX
    SBR MVP
    • 11-01-13
    • 3718

    #2
    what are their odds? I'd need at least 15 to 1 to consider, 20+ to 1 and Id bet for sure. I'd imagine they are around +1400, and +1000 if they win the Big Ten tourny. I think a lot of teams can win it this year, and it very well may be the year a mid major wins it.

    To win the title

    I love...
    Wichita St.
    Arizona
    Florida

    I like...
    Louisville
    Michigan
    Michigan St.

    Look out for...
    Creighton
    UCLA
    North Carolina
    Oregon (yes I said Oregon)

    I hate
    ...
    Villanova
    Duke
    Syracuse
    Kentucky
    Kansas
    Wisconsin
    Iowa St
    Virginia
    Uconn
    N Mexico
    Oklahoma

    A few that could run deep, but not win it all
    ...
    Cincinnati
    Gonzaga
    VCU
    Ohio St
    SDSU

    Super Sleepers...
    Xavier
    Milwaukee
    N. Mexico St.
    N. Carolina Central
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    • BIGDAY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 02-17-10
      • 48245

      #3
      Possibly. They seem to play their best ball in the last 2-3 minutes of games.
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      • bruins35
        SBR MVP
        • 09-19-11
        • 4011

        #4
        Originally posted by STAX
        what are their odds? I'd need at least 15 to 1 to consider, 20+ to 1 and Id bet for sure. I'd imagine they are around +1400, and +1000 if they win the Big Ten tourny
        I am waiting for the brackets
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        • lesterdymond
          SBR MVP
          • 07-25-11
          • 2360

          #5
          They have the talent & leadership to execute. Not a bad bet.
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          • bruins35
            SBR MVP
            • 09-19-11
            • 4011

            #6
            that tall guy payne can defend Durant
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            • STAX
              SBR MVP
              • 11-01-13
              • 3718

              #7
              I think you are best off betting before the Big ten title if you can. They would have an outside shot at a 1 seed with a convincing win today, and a great shot at a 2 seed. Even if they lose today, the odds to win the title probably won't change much at all. If they win today, their odds will drop significantly
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              • BennyBigNuts
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-16-12
                • 8700

                #8
                Gotta wait on Michigan states bracket obviously but no matter how good or bad Izzo's teams are he always gets the most out of his kids.
                Seen a lot of his mediocre teams go deep that shouldn't have but he's just that good a coach.
                Definitely worth a look.
                Odds will be destroyed if they beat Michigan today though and get a 1 seed.
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                • bruins35
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-19-11
                  • 4011

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                  Gotta wait on Michigan states bracket obviously but no matter how good or bad Izzo's teams are he always gets the most out of his kids.
                  Seen a lot of his mediocre teams go deep that shouldn't have but he's just that good a coach.
                  Definitely worth a look.
                  Odds will be destroyed if they beat Michigan today though and get a 1 seed.
                  so I want mich state to lose today for better odds .never thought of that good point
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                  • bruins35
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-19-11
                    • 4011

                    #10
                    Originally posted by STAX
                    what are their odds? I'd need at least 15 to 1 to consider, 20+ to 1 and Id bet for sure. I'd imagine they are around +1400, and +1000 if they win the Big Ten tourny. I think a lot of teams can win it this year, and it very well may be the year a mid major wins it.

                    To win the title

                    I love...
                    Wichita St.
                    Arizona
                    Florida

                    I like...
                    Louisville
                    Michigan
                    Michigan St.

                    Look out for...
                    Creighton
                    UCLA
                    North Carolina
                    Oregon (yes I said Oregon)

                    I hate
                    ...
                    Villanova
                    Duke
                    Syracuse
                    Kentucky
                    Kansas
                    Wisconsin
                    Iowa St
                    Virginia
                    Uconn
                    N Mexico
                    Oklahoma

                    A few that could run deep, but not win it all
                    ...
                    Cincinnati
                    Gonzaga
                    VCU
                    Ohio St
                    SDSU

                    Super Sleepers...
                    Xavier
                    Milwaukee
                    N. Mexico St.
                    N. Carolina Central
                    great post ty ,I like Louisville to
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                    • BennyBigNuts
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 04-16-12
                      • 8700

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bruins35
                      so I want mich state to lose today for better odds .never thought of that good point
                      Yeah for sure you want them to lose today.
                      Michigan is no slough anyways they are a great team from what I've watched this year.
                      Whoever wins this game is getting the 1 seed in all likelihood.
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                      • STAX
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-01-13
                        • 3718

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bruins35
                        so I want mich state to lose today for better odds .never thought of that good point
                        I dont think the odds change much if at all if they lose today, even if they get spanked by Michigan
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                        • packerd_00
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-22-13
                          • 17811

                          #13
                          Hope not I got Florida,but I will say the Spartans are always a tough out.
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                          • Justin3587
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-29-12
                            • 2566

                            #14
                            Originally posted by STAX
                            what are their odds? I'd need at least 15 to 1 to consider, 20+ to 1 and Id bet for sure. I'd imagine they are around +1400, and +1000 if they win the Big Ten tourny. I think a lot of teams can win it this year, and it very well may be the year a mid major wins it.

                            To win the title

                            I love...
                            Wichita St.
                            Arizona
                            Florida

                            I like...
                            Louisville
                            Michigan
                            Michigan St.

                            Look out for...
                            Creighton
                            UCLA
                            North Carolina
                            Oregon (yes I said Oregon)

                            I hate
                            ...
                            Villanova
                            Duke
                            Syracuse
                            Kentucky
                            Kansas
                            Wisconsin
                            Iowa St
                            Virginia
                            Uconn
                            N Mexico
                            Oklahoma

                            A few that could run deep, but not win it all
                            ...
                            Cincinnati
                            Gonzaga
                            VCU
                            Ohio St
                            SDSU

                            Super Sleepers...
                            Xavier
                            Milwaukee
                            N. Mexico St.
                            N. Carolina Central

                            I can't understand why Oklahoma St isn't on this list. They could make a serious run as well. I hate Virginia as well. God dam. I penetrating hate Virginia.
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                            • BennyBigNuts
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-16-12
                              • 8700

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Justin3587
                              I can't understand why Oklahoma St isn't on this list. They could make a serious run as well. I hate Virginia as well. God dam. I penetrating hate Virginia.
                              I know it's a no-name school but Stephen Austin has to be on there somewhere. You can't ignore a 28 game win streak no matter what conference you're in.
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                              • Justin3587
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-29-12
                                • 2566

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                                I know it's a no-name school but Stephen Austin has to be on there somewhere. You can't ignore a 28 game win streak no matter what conference you're in.
                                Agree. I am just ready for these brackets to come out. My favorite day of the year.
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                                • Goat Milk
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-24-10
                                  • 25850

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bruins35
                                  that tall guy payne can defend Durant
                                  He'll hold Durant to about 38.
                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                  • James D
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-03-13
                                    • 2040

                                    #18
                                    Going to give you a crazy stat about michigan state ncaa hoops that if you really think about it, is mind blowing.

                                    Coach Izzo took the job in 1995, any players that joined mich st under coach Izzo if they stayed four years has been to a final four. Coach Izzo has never gone more then four years without a final four. He has six appearances since 1999.

                                    Put that in perspective final fours since 1999. I could list more teams but you get the picture

                                    mich st 6
                                    louisville. 5
                                    duke. 4
                                    kansas. 2
                                    kentucky. 2
                                    n carolina. 4

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                                    • James D
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-03-13
                                      • 2040

                                      #19
                                      Final fours by coach ever, Izzo in the absolute top company


                                      12 John Wooden 1962, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975 UCLA11 Mike Krzyzewski 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2010 Duke
                                      11 Dean Smith 1967, 1968, 1969, 1972, 1977, 1981, 1982, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1997 North Carolina
                                      7 Rick Pitino 1987, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2012, 2013 Providence (1), Kentucky (3), Louisville (3)
                                      7 Roy Williams 1991, 1993, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2008, 2009 Kansas (4), North Carolina (3)
                                      6 Denny Crum 1972, 1975, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1986 Louisville
                                      6 Tom Izzo 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2009, 2010 Michigan State
                                      6 Adolph Rupp 1942, 1948, 1949, 1951, 1958, 1966 Kentucky
                                      5 Bob Knight 1973, 1976, 1981, 1987, 1992 Indiana
                                      5 Guy Lewis 1967, 1968, 1982, 1983, 1984 Houston
                                      5 Lute Olson 1980, 1988, 1994, 1997, 2001 Iowa (1), Arizona (4)
                                      4 Jim Boeheim 1987, 1996, 2003, 2013 Syracuse
                                      4 Jim Calhoun 1999, 2004, 2009, 2011 Connecticut
                                      4 John Calipari 1996*, 2008*, 2011, 2012 Massachusetts (1), Memphis (1), Kentucky (2)
                                      4 Jack Gardner 1948, 1951, 1961, 1966 Kansas State (2), Utah (2)
                                      4 Henry Iba 1945, 1946, 1949, 1951 Oklahoma State
                                      4 Harold Olsen 1939, 1944, 1945, 1946 Ohio State
                                      4 Jerry Tarkanian 1977, 1987, 1990, 1991 UNLV
                                      4 Fred Taylor 1960, 1961, 1962, 1968 Ohio State

                                      Only names above Izzo....wooden, krzyzewski, dean smith, pitino, Roy Williams
                                      Only two others like Izzo with six are Denny crum and Adolph Rupp
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                                      • InTheDrink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-23-09
                                        • 23983

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                                        Gotta wait on Michigan states bracket obviously but no matter how good or bad Izzo's teams are he always gets the most out of his kids.
                                        Seen a lot of his mediocre teams go deep that shouldn't have but he's just that good a coach.
                                        Definitely worth a look.
                                        Odds will be destroyed if they beat Michigan today though and get a 1 seed.
                                        They have no chance of a 1 seed

                                        Other than that I agree with the post
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                                        • TakingVegasMoney
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-20-14
                                          • 1014

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by STAX
                                          what are their odds? I'd need at least 15 to 1 to consider, 20+ to 1 and Id bet for sure. I'd imagine they are around +1400, and +1000 if they win the Big Ten tourny. I think a lot of teams can win it this year, and it very well may be the year a mid major wins it.

                                          To win the title

                                          I love...
                                          Wichita St.
                                          Arizona
                                          Florida

                                          I like...
                                          Louisville
                                          Michigan
                                          Michigan St.

                                          Look out for...
                                          Creighton
                                          UCLA
                                          North Carolina
                                          Oregon (yes I said Oregon)

                                          I hate
                                          ...
                                          Villanova
                                          Duke
                                          Syracuse
                                          Kentucky
                                          Kansas
                                          Wisconsin
                                          Iowa St
                                          Virginia
                                          Uconn
                                          N Mexico
                                          Oklahoma

                                          A few that could run deep, but not win it all
                                          ...
                                          Cincinnati
                                          Gonzaga
                                          VCU
                                          Ohio St
                                          SDSU

                                          Super Sleepers...
                                          Xavier
                                          Milwaukee
                                          N. Mexico St.
                                          N. Carolina Central
                                          Not sure how you don't have Baylor or OklahomaSt on the look out for list.
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                                          • bruins35
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-19-11
                                            • 4011

                                            #22
                                            thanks for info james I think I will give them a shot
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                                            • James D
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-03-13
                                              • 2040

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bruins35
                                              thanks for info james I think I will give them a shot
                                              If your ncaa radar handicapping is half as good as your nhl hockey picks of late they are in really good shape. That program really is a top 3 program last 15 years and no one acknowledges it.
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                                              • bruins35
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-19-11
                                                • 4011

                                                #24
                                                they look good again
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                                                • Capper1124
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                                                  • 11-23-13
                                                  • 1914

                                                  #25
                                                  They will be a dangerous team in the tournament
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                                                  • DOM-Ganador
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                                                    • 05-30-12
                                                    • 4479

                                                    #26
                                                    Impressive last 2 days for sure.
                                                    Everything going their way and they are making it happen.
                                                    Seem very confident.
                                                    Wonder what the line would be to just make it to Final 4?
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                                                    • BennyBigNuts
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-16-12
                                                      • 8700

                                                      #27
                                                      Crispy little no-respect 4 seed for Mich St.
                                                      Should get decent prices on them.
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                                                      • thetrinity
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-25-11
                                                        • 22430

                                                        #28
                                                        michigan st is probably going to be the favorite to go to the final 4 as the 4 seed from the east
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                                                        • bruins35
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-19-11
                                                          • 4011

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                                                          Crispy little no-respect 4 seed for Mich St.
                                                          Should get decent prices on them.
                                                          u still like there chances?
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                                                          • thetrinity
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-25-11
                                                            • 22430

                                                            #30
                                                            ya betting on a good coach with nba players is always a good move
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                                                            • shady610
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-12-06
                                                              • 1570

                                                              #31
                                                              They must be. Bilas Greenberg jay williams digger and vitale picked them as the national champion
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                                                              • BennyBigNuts
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-16-12
                                                                • 8700

                                                                #32
                                                                LOL what a fukkin joke.
                                                                They make Mich st. a 4 seed but they are the 2nd fav in this tourney to win it all at only 9/2
                                                                This selection committee is a fukkin disgrace, not putting SMU in the tourney and giving Mich St. and Louisville 4 seeds.
                                                                Definitely some crooked stuff going on under the tables here from either BYU or NC State as well.
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                                                                • James D
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-03-13
                                                                  • 2040

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                                                                  LOL what a fukkin joke.
                                                                  They make Mich st. a 4 seed but they are the 2nd fav in this tourney to win it all at only 9/2
                                                                  This selection committee is a fukkin disgrace, not putting SMU in the tourney and giving Mich St. and Louisville 4 seeds.
                                                                  Definitely some crooked stuff going on under the tables here from either BYU or NC State as well.
                                                                  Mich state line is crazy. If form holds mich st plays Delaware cincy Virginia and nova. That ML parlay is more the 9/2 just to reach final four
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                                                                  • Barnes & Whine
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                                                                    • 09-29-11
                                                                    • 3103

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Villanova may get knocked out in the first round.
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                                                                    • Barnes & Whine
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                                                                      • 09-29-11
                                                                      • 3103

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bruins35
                                                                      correct me if I am wrong because I don't follow ncaa that close but that mich state team last night looked like they could win march madness.I am thinking of betting them to win tourney long shot I know.If u think they don't have a snow balls chance in hell please let me know before I try this future bet!!!!!!!
                                                                      They are not the best team by far but they have one of the best tournament coaches in history.
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