Clowney or Johnny Football?

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  • AchillesTG
    SBR MVP
    • 07-19-13
    • 1648

    #1
    Clowney or Johnny Football?
    Yes, their times in the 40 were impressive.

    In these days and times, the NFL Combine should time their speed leaving the strip club in their Ferrari's !!!
  • MoneyLineDawg
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-01-09
    • 13253

    #2
    Clowney would win in that too!

    He should and will go first overall....Texans Owner is a South Carolina alum and booster
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    • d2bets
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      • 08-10-05
      • 39995

      #3
      Manziel will be a bust, plain and simple.
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      • Smoke
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-09-09
        • 48111

        #4
        Johnny or bust
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Manziel

          Winner

          Clowny will be police blotter
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          • AchillesTG
            SBR MVP
            • 07-19-13
            • 1648

            #6
            Originally posted by Smoke
            Johnny or bust
            Jevon Kearse, the original "Freak", was only with the Titans 4yrs. Mario Williams got shipped to Buffalo in about the same time frame.

            A decent QB will be around for 10 - 15 yrs. I would roll the dice with a QB.

            As a Fresh and Soph, I have never seen a QB slide around in the pocket the way Manziel does.
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            • easyliving
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-25-12
              • 8876

              #7
              Manziel not even a 1st rounder, guy is all hype. He will sell seats but thats about it.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Selling seats amd merchandise and making team money is half the battle


                Johnny only guy in draft that can make it happen
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                • BigdaddyQH
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-13-09
                  • 19530

                  #9
                  Johnny is a fraud and a poor NFL Style QB. He is afraid to be hit. No QB in this draft is worth the #1 pick. Clowney is the better player.
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                  • AchillesTG
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-19-13
                    • 1648

                    #10
                    Not quite sure why these Teams don't pick the local guys that would sell tickets and merchandise.

                    Houston could trade down and get Manziel and a good "blue collar" defensive lineman.
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by d2bets
                      Manziel will be a bust, plain and simple.
                      this. He reminds me of Jimmy Clausen both physcially and personality.
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                      • AchillesTG
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-19-13
                        • 1648

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        this. He reminds me of Jimmy Clausen both physcially and personality.
                        One big difference is "escapability". When I watched Johnny, I was amazed at his pocket presence.
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                        • crustyme
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-29-10
                          • 16896

                          #13
                          dont know whats the big deal with clowneys combine numbers. remember vernon gholston? another def end who ran 4.5, benched 37 reps (nearly 2x as clowney) and 41" vertical. jets drafted him 6th overall and he was out of football after 3 seasons with 0 sacks.
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                          • Big Bear
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-01-11
                            • 43253

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AchillesTG
                            One big difference is "escapability". When I watched Johnny, I was amazed at his pocket presence.
                            i'll give you that. Little man is quick
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                            • AchillesTG
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-19-13
                              • 1648

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              Selling seats amd merchandise and making team money is half the battle


                              Johnny only guy in draft that can make it happen
                              You got it pegged JJ!

                              Jerry Jones and Al Davis never sacrificed their Teams for money!, LOL.
                              I think Jerry bought the Cowboys for $130M and worth $2B now. 50% record since Jimmy and Jerry got drunk in a pissing match.
                              The Dude knows how to make a buck!
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                              • mikeya2k
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-12-13
                                • 2719

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                this. He reminds me of Jimmy Clausen both physcially and personality.
                                No way. Clausen was a total deuche. manziel is atleast a winner. I would love to have him as my leader

                                Physically, Manziel is way to better too. In almost every facet!
                                Clausen was a bust before he got drafted.

                                Manziel will go to the Browns.
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                                • mikeya2k
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-12-13
                                  • 2719

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by crustyme
                                  dont know whats the big deal with clowneys combine numbers. remember vernon gholston? another def end who ran 4.5, benched 37 reps (nearly 2x as clowney) and 41" vertical. jets drafted him 6th overall and he was out of football after 3 seasons with 0 sacks.
                                  I dont think Clowney is going to be a bust.
                                  He will be elite AllPro within 2-3 years if not right away.
                                  Teams will have to prepare for him
                                  Gholston was as much as a physical specimen. But defienalty not half the football prospect Clowney is
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                                  • meader99
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-30-10
                                    • 4223

                                    #18
                                    Clowney is the best player in the draft. Be an impact player for 10+ years.
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                                    • Big Bear
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-01-11
                                      • 43253

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mikeya2k
                                      No way. Clausen was a total deuche. manziel is atleast a winner. I would love to have him as my leader

                                      Physically, Manziel is way to better too. In almost every facet!
                                      Clausen was a bust before he got drafted.

                                      Manziel will go to the Browns.
                                      okay i will give you that too. Good points so the kid is much better than Clausen. Clausen was 6-6 his senior year.

                                      I guess what reminds me of Clausen is his attitude. He is just very arrogant and comes across as though he feels entitled.
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                                      • Darkside Magick
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-28-10
                                        • 12638

                                        #20
                                        None ....Sammy Watkins should go number 1
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                                        • freeVICK
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-21-08
                                          • 7114

                                          #21
                                          Manziel will get eaten alive. One blind side hit stick vs Seattle and he's out for the year
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                                          • FranchisePlayer
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 11-05-11
                                            • 334

                                            #22
                                            Clowney and Watt are gonna be so sick together!
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                                            • BigBallzz69
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 10-08-13
                                              • 134

                                              #23
                                              St. Louis Rams are exploding goo right now
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                                              • mikeya2k
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-12-13
                                                • 2719

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                okay i will give you that too. Good points so the kid is much better than Clausen. Clausen was 6-6 his senior year.

                                                I guess what reminds me of Clausen is his attitude. He is just very arrogant and comes across as though he feels entitled.
                                                Clausen was an asshole and a half
                                                Hated his guts
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                                                • GunShard
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-05-10
                                                  • 10031

                                                  #25
                                                  Manziel similar to Doug Flutie.
                                                  Doug Flutie wasn't a very good QB.
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #26
                                                    Clowney SHOULD go #1, but indications are Texans are going with Bortles.
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                                                    • Killer_Demo
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-15-08
                                                      • 8409

                                                      #27
                                                      I'd take Derek Carr over Manziel
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                                                      • eidolon
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                                                        • 01-02-08
                                                        • 9531

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by mikeya2k
                                                        No way. Clausen was a total deuche. manziel is atleast a winner. I would love to have him as my leader

                                                        Physically, Manziel is way to better too. In almost every facet!
                                                        Clausen was a bust before he got drafted.

                                                        Manziel will go to the Browns.
                                                        This.
                                                        Clausen's hype was from his hype as a high school player; he failed at the colllege level, yet there was still hype on him that got him to the NFL.
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                                                        • manny24
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-22-07
                                                          • 20046

                                                          #29
                                                          Clowney is ready to go TODAY

                                                          this should not even be a debate
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                                                          • Cuse0323
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                                                            • 12-09-09
                                                            • 30169

                                                            #30
                                                            If Clowney puts in the effort, him without a doubt over anyone.
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                                                            • LT Profits
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                                                              • 10-27-06
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                              If Clowney puts in the effort, him without a doubt over anyone.
                                                              That's just it. O'Brien questions the work ethic of both Clowney and Manziel. But he loves Bortles after seeing him first hand.
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                                                              • mw00
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-17-08
                                                                • 702

                                                                #32
                                                                manziel explosvie but wont last in nfl if he plays the way he does in college. isnt he and mike vick same style of player? vick seem to be injured alot this year.
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                                                                • Cuse0323
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                                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                                  • 30169

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                  That's just it. O'Brien questions the work ethic of both Clowney and Manziel. But he loves Bortles after seeing him first hand.
                                                                  Absolutely. Bortles has all the physical attributes and I don't think you have to worry about his antics on or off the field. If I'm taking a QB first, it's Blake for me.
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                                                                  • edawg
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-09-11
                                                                    • 2820

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Clowney = talented but lazy
                                                                    Johnny= Winner plain & simple
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                                                                    • opie1988
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-12-10
                                                                      • 23429

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Humors me to see people comparing Manziel to Clausen or Tebow.

                                                                      Neither of those guys remotely close to having the skills that Johnny has. His arm is better than both of them combined.

                                                                      Anyone who says Manziel has a weak arm either has never watched him, or is simply an idiot.
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