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  • SteelRain
    SBR MVP
    • 03-13-12
    • 2806

    #71
    I will hope manning wins so he can finally stfu the haters like lebron did the last 2 years.
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65644

      #72
      Originally posted by ROFLcopter
      The guy is trying to make it look like he's on Denver, but it sounds like he's trying to get you on Seattle. Read his post carefully.
      I think most of the betting public has their mind made up already.
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      • PAULYPOKER
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-06-08
        • 36581

        #73
        Originally posted by ROFLcopter
        The guy is trying to make it look like he's on Denver, but it sounds like he's trying to get you on Seattle. Read his post carefully.
        He's enticing the degens to bet points on Seattle.......

        The line says it all

        Seattle +3 +100
        Denver -3 -120

        Bookmaker odds (which SBR mirrors) is set at 2.5 -110......Lol.......

        27 out of 30 books ATS is @ 2.5.......
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        • Thor4140
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-09-08
          • 22296

          #74
          Originally posted by The Kraken
          I see Moreno having a good game. Seattle's strength is their secondary, not their front 7. That allows them to single coverage more often but I promise you, Manning is better than the Seattle secondary. They haven't faced anyone near as smart as Manning. He gets rid of the ball quick. He may get sacked once but he doesn't get hit often. Too smart. He'll audible at the line and things should open up for Moreno as Seattle realizes they cannot win in man to man.

          I'll bump this after the game
          he gets rid of the ball quick because he is throwing against garbage that doesn't cover shit. Lets see how he does against a defense that can actually cover people instead of three out of four guys wide open.
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          • Thor4140
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #75
            Originally posted by SteelRain
            I will hope manning wins so he can finally stfu the haters like lebron did the last 2 years.
            lebron was awful in the finals three years ago. Had a lot of help two years ago and last year if it wasn't for Allens three late he would have lost that one. He should be fine this year tho. Indy is the better team but when the refs take Hibbert out of the game for Lebron like they do every time Miami beats Indy, he can drive freely thru the lane. No susperstar in the history of sports needs as much help as Lebron. Now they go get him Odom. Maybe they can somehow get Durant off of Ok City to help him out.
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            • kfranz31
              SBR MVP
              • 02-09-10
              • 1186

              #76
              no but sherman is now bow down to his greatness
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              • slacker00
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-06-05
                • 12262

                #77
                Originally posted by vyomguy
                No. You are wrong again.


                Matthew Michael "Matt" Hasselbeck (born September 25, 1975)[1] is an American football quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts of the National Football League (NFL).[2] He was drafted in the sixth round of the 1998 NFL Draft by the Green Bay Packers. After a season on the practice squad and two seasons backing up Brett Favre, he was traded to the Seattle Seahawks in 2001. Hasselbeck gained the starting role in 2003, and led Seattle to six playoff appearances and a Super Bowl appearance; he was selected to three Pro Bowls and an All-Pro selection.
                Your source is wrong. Hasselbeck was the SEA starting QB in 2001 and 2002. What is the source? Your mom?
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                • frostno98
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 9769

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                  he gets rid of the ball quick because he is throwing against garbage that doesn't cover shit. Lets see how he does against a defense that can actually cover people instead of three out of four guys wide open.
                  You talking about that same overrated defense, that almost lost in OT at home to the buccaneers and Mike Glennon right?
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                  • Rangers901
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-09-12
                    • 363

                    #79
                    WARNING: Peyton Manning actually is God. Fading him can cause such side effects as face in hands, nausea, regret, and a lighter wallet. Please consult with your financial advisor before fading Peyton Manning.
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                    • slacker00
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-06-05
                      • 12262

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Rangers901
                      WARNING: Peyton Manning actually is God. Fading him can cause such side effects as face in hands, nausea, regret, and a lighter wallet. Please consult with your financial advisor before fading Peyton Manning.
                      Peyton is 1-4 ATS in his last 5 playoff games. Fading Peyton in the playoffs is money in the bank.
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                      • Rangers901
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-09-12
                        • 363

                        #81
                        Originally posted by slacker00
                        Peyton is 1-4 ATS in his last 5 playoff games. Fading Peyton in the playoffs is money in the bank.
                        First, lighten up, it was intended to be a joke (kind of).

                        Second, tell me how those last 5 playoff games are relevant when discussing this game?
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                        • frostno98
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 9769

                          #82
                          Originally posted by slacker00
                          Peyton is 1-4 ATS in his last 5 playoff games. Fading Peyton in the playoffs is money in the bank.
                          A lot of people were fading Manning moneyline pretty heavy the last two games expecting a classic Peyton Manning choke, and lost miserably. And I saw ton here alone moneylining both the Pats and Chargers.
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                          • BigdaddyQH
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-13-09
                            • 19530

                            #83
                            Originally posted by vyomguy
                            Thank you. I am feeling more confident that denver will win....now that lakerboy and sbr_john don't believe in manning.

                            2nd year QB's dont beat veteran QB's like manning unless your name is tom brady and have spies stealing signals.

                            Proabbaly last chance for manning to win superbowl....NFL will make sure he wins his 2nd superbowl. Referees decide most of the games in NFL.
                            So you think that most NFL games are fixed. Is that what you are saying. If so, GET A LIFE. You know absolutely NOTHING about what it takes to fix a game. NOTHING.
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                            • slacker00
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-06-05
                              • 12262

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Rangers901
                              First, lighten up, it was intended to be a joke (kind of).

                              Second, tell me how those last 5 playoff games are relevant when discussing this game?
                              The spreads are tilted against the guy. He's a 1st ballot HOFer, but he's not God. That's the discussion.
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                              • Rangers901
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-09-12
                                • 363

                                #85
                                Originally posted by slacker00
                                The spreads are tilted against the guy. He's a 1st ballot HOFer, but he's not God. That's the discussion.
                                I would say that this would be a legitimate point, except the sample size you use is so small.

                                Trends, such as the one you stated, are typically useless to serious investors. Why did you choose to use the last 5 games as your sample size? What was his ATS record in the previous 5 games? It could have been 5-0, 4-1, etc.

                                The point is, trends such as the one you used are typically manipulated to better suit your own theory, rather than paint the entire picture.
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                                • Vinnie Paz
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-27-12
                                  • 12177

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by frostno98
                                  You talking about that same overrated defense, that almost lost in OT at home to the buccaneers and Mike Glennon right?
                                  Please just stop. Overrated defence lol.

                                  Peytons noodle arm soft tosses are a huge x factor no ones bringing up. His passes are awful looking and will limit them. He won't be able to throw a deep ball if its windy . Sea d all tackle well and can lay the wood and their press man coverage is no joke. They should be able to handle all the underneath stuff. Denver Wrs could really struggle here. I don't like this matchup for them offensively, I'd feel better if they drew san fran but it is what it is.
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                                  • Vinnie Paz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-27-12
                                    • 12177

                                    #87
                                    Btw I think Denver gets all the calls. Anyone have an idea who the refs are or when they announce it?
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                                    • slacker00
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-06-05
                                      • 12262

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Rangers901
                                      I would say that this would be a legitimate point, except the sample size you use is so small.

                                      Trends, such as the one you stated, are typically useless to serious investors. Why did you choose to use the last 5 games as your sample size? What was his ATS record in the previous 5 games? It could have been 5-0, 4-1, etc.

                                      The point is, trends such as the one you used are typically manipulated to better suit your own theory, rather than paint the entire picture.
                                      Peyton is 10-12 ATS in his playoff career. Does that paint a better picture? If you have better info, please share.
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                                      • slacker00
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-06-05
                                        • 12262

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                        Btw I think Denver gets all the calls. Anyone have an idea who the refs are or when they announce it?
                                        I started a thread earlier today. Add some insight if you know anything.

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                                        • Easy-Rider 66
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-14-12
                                          • 36553

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                          Btw I think Denver gets all the calls. Anyone have an idea who the refs are or when they announce it?
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                                          • BigdaddyQH
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-13-09
                                            • 19530

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Yup books are gonna pay a 90% public play.
                                            Just what do you smoke before you dream this B.S. up? You know NOTHING about how the books operate, so give it up. You rank amateurs are just so sad.
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                                            • No coincidences
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-18-10
                                              • 76300

                                              #92
                                              Why would the books not open this line at Denver -3?
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                                              • Sam Odom
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-30-05
                                                • 58063

                                                #93
                                                Could have opened at 3 and most likely stayed at 3
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                                                • Rangers901
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-09-12
                                                  • 363

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by slacker00
                                                  Peyton is 10-12 ATS in his playoff career. Does that paint a better picture? If you have better info, please share.
                                                  You just confirmed my point.

                                                  You manipulated that trend to better suit your your side.

                                                  You mentioned his record for his last 5 playoff games against the spread, 1-4 (20%), but you leave out the fact that he was 9-8 (53%) the 17 playoff games before that.

                                                  So, for someone who enjoys fading Manning, does a 1-4 (20%) record sound better, or 10-12 (43.5%)?

                                                  Also, Manning is 1-0-1 ATS in these playoffs (depending what line you got in the SD game). The comparison doesn't work because he's fielding statistically the best offense in NFL history this season.
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                                                  • slacker00
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-06-05
                                                    • 12262

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Rangers901
                                                    You just confirmed my point.

                                                    You manipulated that trend to better suit your your side.

                                                    You mentioned his record for his last 5 playoff games against the spread, 1-4 (20%), but you leave out the fact that he was 9-8 (53%) the 17 playoff games before that.

                                                    So, for someone who enjoys fading Manning, does a 1-4 (20%) record sound better, or 10-12 (43.5%)?

                                                    Also, Manning is 1-0-1 ATS in these playoffs (depending what line you got in the SD game). The comparison doesn't work because he's fielding statistically the best offense in NFL history this season.
                                                    Just because you fudge the numbers, doesn't me we all do it. DEN -7 vs SD? Give me a break.

                                                    My point is that Peyton has great fantasy numbers, that's why the line is shaded against him now.
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                                                    • SBR_John
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-12-05
                                                      • 16471

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                      He's enticing the degens to bet points on Seattle.......

                                                      The line says it all

                                                      Seattle +3 +100
                                                      Denver -3 -120

                                                      Bookmaker odds (which SBR mirrors) is set at 2.5 -110......Lol.......

                                                      27 out of 30 books ATS is @ 2.5.......
                                                      Not really. At 3 -120 we will still have an imbalance on Denver. I think it closes at -3 -115.
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                                                      • lakerboy
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                        Why would the books not open this line at Denver -3?

                                                        By mistake they picked the winning team and no one believed them so everyone and their mom took den. Its just that simple. Den can't lose. Its free money.
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                                                        • PAYTON20
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-02-10
                                                          • 5217

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                          Why would the books not open this line at Denver -3?
                                                          they know Seahawks will win and didn't want to offer +money on the Seahawks ML... but now have no choice with public hammering Denver.

                                                          They open it Denver -3 and the Seahawks would be +150 or higher by now
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-06-08
                                                            • 36581

                                                            #99
                                                            BigdaddyQH AKA Hank Hill spoutin off all kinds of driveling rants,remarks.... Lol.........






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                                                            • Kermit
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                                                              • 09-27-10
                                                              • 32555

                                                              #100
                                                              I think Welker is going to have a big game as far as catches go.
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                                                              • daneblazer
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-14-08
                                                                • 27861

                                                                #101
                                                                Peyton won't be denied this time
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                                                                • Thor4140
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                                  • 22296

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by frostno98
                                                                  You talking about that same overrated defense, that almost lost in OT at home to the buccaneers and Mike Glennon right?
                                                                  And Denver almost lost to Dallas so what is ur point?
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                                                                  • Capper1124
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-23-13
                                                                    • 1914

                                                                    #103
                                                                    He will really struggle in this one if the weather is bad
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                                                                    • Andy117
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                                      • 9511

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                      90 percent?
                                                                      I bet you the line crosses zero four times in the next two weekes.
                                                                      Seattle money will come in, line will go to Sea -1, and back and forth.
                                                                      I don't think it ever gets to zero.
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                                                                      • pavyracer
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                                        • 82839

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Does God watch the Superbowl? I don't remember reading about sports in the Bible.
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