How high of a winning percentage must a player maintain to yield consistent profits?

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  • willyback
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-15-07
    • 674

    #1
    How high of a winning percentage must a player maintain to yield consistent profits?
    I've heard that you can't drop below 52%. But, I have no idea whether that's true or not

    Also...

    With a profitable winning percentage in tow, is there a way to calculate what the expected profits would be?

  • statnerds
    SBR MVP
    • 09-23-09
    • 4047

    #2
    house edge on -110 is 4.54%. but if you are paying -110 you are already fukked. plenty of discount shops out there.

    i humbly suggest looking at far more alternatives than merely generating returns on straight bets.

    find a Local that deals straight -110 on Totals and bet small and over the long haul destroy. or bet big with significant swings while Arb out a few percentage points daily.
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    • a4u2fear
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-29-10
      • 8147

      #3
      It depends on what bets you are making and at what price
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      • weirimdi
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-14-14
        • 24

        #4
        It is easy to calculate. To break even you must reach a winning percentage of 1/average winning odds you are playing.
        for example i have decimal odds of 1.97.
        1/1.97= 0,5076
        This means minimum winning percentage to break even is 50.76%
        My record this year is 287-249 so I must have a positive outcome at flat stakes.
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        • nikossf
          SBR MVP
          • 03-02-10
          • 2217

          #5
          Anything over 52% consistently,... and your + money..
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          • ericc
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-05-08
            • 8329

            #6
            At -110 you need to win 11 out of 21 (11/21=52.38% or, 11 wins at $1 = $11 and 10 losses at $1.1 = $11). If you play at -105 you need to win 21 out of 41 (21/41=51.22%) which is slightly better than 52.38% but the discount books usually move the juice so that it adds up to -105 (for example: team a = -104 and team b = -106, or -103/-107.

            Basically it comes out to; if you can win 55% you can go out to dinner once a month, if you can win 58% you might be able to quit your day job, if you can win 60% you can buy a yacht.
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            • HeeeHAWWWW
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-13-08
              • 5487

              #7
              Originally posted by ericc
              Basically it comes out to; if you can win 55% you can go out to dinner once a month, if you can win 58% you might be able to quit your day job, if you can win 60% you can buy a yacht.
              Really depends what market limits you're betting, and how many bets you can find. It's not that difficult to get very high winning %s on $250 novelty markets, but you won't get much money down, nor find that many opportunities, and are likely to get banned eventually.

              55% at 1/3 Kelly on -105 will double your bankroll in 435 bets, quadruple in 870, x8 in 1270 etc. 54.5% at the same will double your bankroll every 578 bets, 54.0% every 805 bets.

              The trick is finding the methods and target markets that optimise your overall yearly profit. Personally, I like high volume stuff, 2000 or so bets a year - it also has the secondary advantage that any change you make can be assessed quicker (ie you reach statistically useful sample sizes far sooner).


              Almost nobody hits 55% at any volume, btw.
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              • Sawyer
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-01-09
                • 7792

                #8
                Depends on odds. You can make profit even with a %40 percentage if you're betting dogs.
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                • Sawyer
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-01-09
                  • 7792

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                  Almost nobody hits 55% at any volume, btw.
                  LoL, it's funny. Ask gamblers what's their win rate, most of them will say they hit %70-80 But in fact, there's very few people who can hit %55-56+ over long haul.
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                  • Blax0r
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-13-10
                    • 688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sawyer
                    Depends on odds. You can make profit even with a %40 percentage if you're betting dogs.
                    This is the correct answer.
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                    • cruzing vato
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-21-12
                      • 538

                      #11
                      Agree with Eric. At -110 point spread bets, you need to hit 56-58% at least to make sports betting your job.. I figure sometimes you have to lay -120 and sometimes you get +100, but you better hit at least 56% and aim for 67%.
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