Rugby League World Cup 2013

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  • lordkai35
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-20-13
    • 202

    #281
    So proud of the USA's defense in the second half
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    • Domestic
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-10-09
      • 6323

      #282
      Originally posted by lordkai35
      So proud of the USA's defense in the second half
      Yep, all of those missed Thurston conversions were handy too.
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      • iWin
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-16-12
        • 244

        #283
        Originally posted by sando
        England v France

        2* England 1st Half -17.5 (-119/$1.84 Sportsbet/IAS)
        England is at -38.5. Do you still like it?
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60728

          #284
          I said to myself if USA can keep them under 80 and score a try they can walk away with heads up.

          Doesn't matter that JT left his kicking boots at home, USA could have, should have, folded in the last 20 minutes but they didn't. Shame about the duck egg of course.
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          • cind3r
            SBR Hustler
            • 01-16-13
            • 56

            #285
            1st half is sadly not available at Pinnacle. What about England -38.5 or total under 53? I feel like the under is good, but then again I know nothing about rugby league lol
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            • bmoney76
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-14-13
              • 25

              #286
              Missed conversion. Gutless.
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              • sando
                SBR MVP
                • 04-30-12
                • 3723

                #287
                So many forward passes and wasted opportunities by England, they should be up by 20+

                Anyway can see the French tiring (as they did against Samoa) in the 2nd Half, and the Poms running up the score

                Half Time Play

                2* England -35.5 (-115/$1.87 Sportsbet/IAS)
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                • plekz
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-28-13
                  • 1491

                  #288
                  Fun game to watch, think England is gonna get it very rough though against Australia or the Kiwis.
                  Last edited by plekz; 11-16-13, 04:50 PM.
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                  • MrXYZ
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-18-11
                    • 2342

                    #289
                    Both games went 1st half over, full game under. Seen this a lot in the world cup.
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                    • plekz
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-28-13
                      • 1491

                      #290
                      Yeah, which is why i love livebetting the unders, because the book havent caught on it seems yet to the fact that even if teams are blitzing through the first 40 they are VERY likely to slow down considerably for the remainder (especially if they are up alot) so from what iv'e seen they most of the time adjust the line before the whistle goes for halftime to represent that of a game likely having a second half that looks like the first half has.

                      I had 2500$ today on the 1,83 line that Ladbrokes had as high as U83.5 in the Australia vs USA game today.
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                      • vasilli07
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-08-11
                        • 3955

                        #291
                        Any play today?
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                        • the tross
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-14-13
                          • 450

                          #292
                          Waiting on a sando lifeline after the ufc letdown.
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                          • lordkai35
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 07-20-13
                            • 202

                            #293
                            Samoa vs Fiji

                            Samoa have been disappointing at times, low scoring win over france, whilst brilliant at other times, thrashing of PNG and comeback vs NZ. Fiji have been very ordinary with only a win against Ireland probably the worst team in the tournament. They failed to score against Australia especially considering their squad of NRL players with flair, this shows their attack has been pedestrian lacking direction in the halves.

                            Samoa have overall better backs who are more solid in defence and Milford who is very hard to tackle. Fiji's backline has alot of flair but their defence is very poor. Fiji has a much better second row in bukuya and the sims boys. Ashton sims has really dominated in the props but Samoa's props can match it with them. Each sides bench doesnt offer much but i would say Samoa's has a bit more go forward and aggression. Samoa's second row lacks any attack but are pretty solid in defence. The key for Samoa is really in their halves. No matter how bad Roberts is, he is still experienced. He brings alot of leadership and stability for the team due to his experience and he knows what he is doing. Although his execution can be horrible at times, the experience factor outweighs the Fiji halves pairing. Roberts also declared in a news article he will be playing like its his last game in order to try to secure a NRL or super league contract for next season.

                            This game shapes to be a very tight contest depending if Fiji show up. Samoa have proven they will be competitive in all their games even if they are prone to errors and poor ball handling, they play 100%. Fiji really lack cohesion and their tries were just individual brilliance by the backline. i think Samoa's backline is experienced enough in defense to contain Uate, koribete and naiqama boys.

                            The line is at 3.5/4. I think Samoa's competitiveness and experience in key positions will result in a comfortable win here. since the line is quite low i will take Samoa to cover. The total at 47.5 is a bit risky considering the attacking talent in both sides and wise to stay away from.

                            My prediction: Samoa -3.5 ($1.82 Sportingbet pick your own line) Not taking -4 line as iam paying $0.09 for safety incase Fiji is competitive or conversions are unlucky.
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                            • Dr.Gonzo
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-05-09
                              • 4660

                              #294
                              England to make the world cup final @$4.25 (sp0rt1ngb3t)

                              This is free money, you will have no problem arbing out and taking a profit if you desire. You are getting 4.25 for the match against NZ.

                              Max bet this for a position on the game even if you want to take NZ later on, zero reasons not to.
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                              • lordkai35
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 07-20-13
                                • 202

                                #295
                                fiji turned up today, i would suggest hedging out if ur on samoa
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 60728

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by lordkai35
                                  fiji turned up today, i would suggest hedging out if ur on samoa
                                  I hope you are wrong. I added more at $3.10
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                                  • bubblebuttluv
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-13-12
                                    • 5179

                                    #297
                                    How the Hell is Somoa (who looked really good this tournament), getting crushed by Fiji (who looked like shit)?

                                    This is why I don't like Rugby League. I don't get how you can go the length of the field in 5 tackles.

                                    I just stick to Union which is much easier to understand.
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                                    • horja1
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-13-11
                                      • 5646

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by lordkai35
                                      fiji turned up today, i would suggest hedging out if ur on samoa
                                      it is more like samoa is not playing much atm ... fiji still makes a lot of mistakes
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                                      • bubblebuttluv
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-13-12
                                        • 5179

                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by horja1
                                        it is more like samoa is not playing much atm ... fiji still makes a lot of mistakes
                                        I hope Somoa knows this is the World Cup semi-final.
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 60728

                                          #300
                                          A score before half time would have made me feel better about this.

                                          Still, in for a pence in for a pound eh. Might add-on some more @ $6
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                                          • horja1
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-13-11
                                            • 5646

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by bubblebuttluv
                                            I hope Somoa knows this is the World Cup semi-final.
                                            quarter final
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                                            • bubblebuttluv
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-13-12
                                              • 5179

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by horja1
                                              quarter final
                                              I thought it was the semi's, but still it is an elimination game.

                                              If a team can't get up for an elimination game, then they are laughable.

                                              They better turn this shit around.
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                                              • Dr.Gonzo
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-05-09
                                                • 4660

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by bubblebuttluv
                                                How the Hell is Somoa (who looked really good this tournament), getting crushed by Fiji (who looked like shit)?

                                                This is why I don't like Rugby League. I don't get how you can go the length of the field in 5 tackles.

                                                I just stick to Union which is much easier to understand.
                                                When your edge is Ben Roberts you've got nothing.
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                                                • plekz
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-28-13
                                                  • 1491

                                                  #304
                                                  Played -12 on Fiji @ 3.75 And i'm laughing right now. Is this WC stuff every year or? any other tournaments like this throughout the year because livebetting this so far has been the easiest money iv'e ever made in my life, and i havent watched a minute of rugby previously before this tournament.
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                                                  • vasilli07
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-08-11
                                                    • 3955

                                                    #305
                                                    Pathetic display.
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                                                    • sando
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-30-12
                                                      • 3723

                                                      #306
                                                      RLWC Record

                                                      12-8 +9.88 Units

                                                      ...May have a play or two for the semi-finals tomorrow
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                                                      • Donkey
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 05-22-12
                                                        • 151

                                                        #307
                                                        Vatuvei out injured, nightingale in
                                                        rangi chase out, widdop in
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                                                        • Mase of Base
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-24-12
                                                          • 3622

                                                          #308
                                                          I can't believe the odds on the Kiwis, was hoping to back them at something pretty reasonable but those prices are a bit off imo, I think the total to high also. Think the Aussies roll and cover the big spread.
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                                                          • plekz
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-28-13
                                                            • 1491

                                                            #309
                                                            Yeah i find it hard for the Aussie game to be anything but a blow out, and i'll probably back the U on the England/New Zeeland game that i think is going to be a very competetive hard fought game.
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                                                            • sando
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-30-12
                                                              • 3723

                                                              #310
                                                              Ok lads World Cup back on tonight with two semi finals and the match everyone has been waiting for (NZ v England).

                                                              70,000+ fans at Wembly stadium, wish I was there...

                                                              NZ @ England - Semi Final 1

                                                              2* Over 42 (-110/$1.90 Luxbet)
                                                              0.5* England ML (+236/$3.36 Pinnacle)
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                                                              • davopnz
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-12-12
                                                                • 1736

                                                                #311
                                                                I was actually leaning towards the under sando as I figure England will have to have a great defensive game to win? Am I wrong?
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                                                                • the tross
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 02-14-13
                                                                  • 450

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Gone with kiwis -7.5. Think foran and Luke with will be the difference in attack and finish over the top of England late. Can't wait for the kick off. Bol guys.
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                                                                  • Mase of Base
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-24-12
                                                                    • 3622

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by sando
                                                                    Ok lads World Cup back on tonight with two semi finals and the match everyone has been waiting for (NZ v England).

                                                                    70,000+ fans at Wembly stadium, wish I was there...

                                                                    NZ @ England - Semi Final 1

                                                                    2* Over 42 (-110/$1.90 Luxbet)
                                                                    0.5* England ML (+236/$3.36 Pinnacle)

                                                                    Kia Ora Sando, If you don't mind my asking what was your reasoning behind the over? I completely agree on the England ML there is no way they play this game how ever many times and this price doesn't turn a profit, we suck playing England/GB over there.

                                                                    I was leaning the other way to be honest (at 43.5), just seems too many points to be put up in a clutch game where the home team is a dog i.e I'm expecting them to turn up defensively and can't see them putting on a big total against the Kiwis. I'm a kiwi and probably have this team under rated.
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                                                                    • sando
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-30-12
                                                                      • 3723

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Sorry lads I'm at work tonight and don't have time for write up, all I can say is that I have a unique system for estimating how many points I think a team (both teams) will score in any given match up, and I have this total set at approx. 46-48 points. Also my gut instincts tell me there is just too much attacking flare (i.e points) in NZ especially and I can easily see them sucking England into a faster/looser style of play even if England initially plays with a defensive mentality (far more likely now that they dropped Rangi Chase - loose cannon) Also NZ have shown defensive vulnerability against weaker teams than England especially n the edges and England have two very good finishers in rising star Charnley and that peroxide haired bull on the other wing (Hall) who loves to throw forward passes/stupid passes but his finishing ability is on par with Konrad Hurrell (but more athletic).

                                                                      If you guys feel strong about the under then play it, don't let me talk you out of it because think about how mad you'll be if the game does stay under the total. Personally I feel good about this one going over (hence a 2 unit play).

                                                                      Kiwi's should win, however I think it is more like 60/40 and would not even consider it much of an upset if England does win. England have the best individual talent on the park in Tomkins is a super-star (like a younger Billy Slater) and could be a game changer. Also England have their own super-star forward (Sam Burgess) to go head to head with Kiwi game breaker -SBW
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                                                                      • sando
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-30-12
                                                                        • 3723

                                                                        #315
                                                                        One more thing - the two most important players on the park for the Kiwis are Issac Luke and Kieran Foran. They will not win if both of these two are not at their best. England forwards are as big and mean as kiwis, they will need Luke's runs out of dummy half and also Foran's calm head (many loose cannons on kiwi team) and expert tactical kicking if they are to win.
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