Patriots game was obviously fixed !!!!!

[MoneyLineDawg]

Still waiting from the fix guys why bogus offensive pass inference was called on Jets WR Stephen Hill late in the game on a bomb for a TD?

Would have all but sealed it.....

Also, why no NE penalties when they were driving for the tie, possible win at the end of regulation?

Exactly

[ZINISTER]

!

How many times this year have you seen a flag thrown on a judgment call and they say there is no hands to the face penalty on the play no penalty will be given FIRST DOWN. On a judgment call there is no penalty? The ref who threw the flag in his judgment there was a penalty committed. They pick it up if they feel like it? Anyone that thinks this shyt isn't fixed please take yourself to the garage shut the door turn on the car on and sit there for an hour. It won't kill you it just happens to other people. There is a term called 'Normalcy Bias'. It is a condition humans feel that it can't happen to me. It has happened in the past to many, but it won't happen to me. There is no way to convince these retards of a fact. This country is comprised of some of the stupidest MF'ers. I hate almost everyone of you dipshits, so keep betting and losing, it will change some day and you will prosper. I'm going to the casino and play poker and lose my money the right way. Where I determine if I lose or lady luck gives me a win or take a win away! Sick of seeing my money pissed away by being cheated out of it!

[Big Bear]

Tired of seeing this is Players talk.

the game was YESTERDAY!!!!


if you are worried about games being fixed then dont bet on the public side.

games are never fixed to benifet the public side!!!

When you see 90% of bets on a certain side ... either lay off or go the other way.

[geebert74]

Who gives a shit if the penalty was never called before. It is a new rule and the rule was broken. End of fukkin story.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Who gives a shit if the penalty was never called before. It is a new rule and the rule was broken. End of fukkin story.

[Conan]

Who gives a shit if the penalty was never called before. It is a new rule and the rule was broken. End of fukkin story.

except it wasn't the rule before the game only after!!!!!

[KidSeoul]

except it wasn't the rule before the game only after!!!!!

just like the tuck rule?

[Conan]

.http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ran...hey-called-it/

[MoneyLineDawg]

except it wasn't the rule before the game only after!!!!!

That's 100% false....some article on nfl.com was wrong before the game, but the official rule book always had it

NFL.com article contributes to confusion regarding rule that burned Pats

Posted by Mike Florio on October 20, 2013, 10:23 PM EDT

AP

The Patriots lost to the Jets on Sunday as a direct result of the application of a new rule prohibiting the pushing of defensive players during field goal attempts by other defensive players. The rule was properly applied, but that hasn’t stopped some Pats fans from insisting that the team was screwed.
It started when coach Bill Belichick explained after the game that the push didn’t come from the second level. But the rule, as we explained it, doesn’t restrict the prohibited conduct to pushes from the second level.
The problem is that the NFL previously has explained the new rule on its official website by suggesting that the rule applies only to pushes from the second level. As explained by Tom Curran of CSN New England, a September 2013 story posted on NFL.com specifically refers to the second level when explaining the rule. In a video accompanying the story, V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino likewise refers to the “second level” when explaining the rule.
Giving Pats fans some raw beef for their burgeoning conspiracy theory is the fact that, per Curran, the article on NFL.com was changed earlier tonight.
Some are suggesting that the rule itself was changed after the game, but that’s definitely not the case. The hard copy of the rule book that we’ve been using all year in the NBC viewing room contains the new rule, and it makes no reference to the “second level.”
And here’s where I need to disagree with my good friend and colleague from CSNNE. Curran explains that Belichick got the idea that the rule only applied to the “second level” because of the item posted at NFL.com. I have a hard time buying the notion that Belichick would rely on an interpretation posted at NFL.com in September 2013, given that the rule was passed in March and codified in the rule book before the start of the preseason in August.
Besides, and as we reported earlier tonight that, when officials met with teams in the preseason, they explained that the new rule applies to all defensive players on a field-goal try, regardless of level.
If Belichick were to claim that he was given incorrect information when NFL officials visited the team before the season, that would get our attention. Even then, the rule says what it says, and Belichick seems to be sufficiently meticulous to have noticed that the plain language of the rulebook didn’t mesh with the suggestion that the push must come from the “second level.”

[Conan]

and here is the jets breaking the rule "as written" before the game.

[MoneyLineDawg]

.http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ran...hey-called-it/

I'll trust profootballtalk over boston barstool sports

[Thor4140]

You know, Thor4140, your post makes a lot of sense. Just fade the most public play especially on the spreads. Guys dont want to believe this is fixed because it makes them feel good. Imagine, if we all admit this stuff is fixed, at some level thats an indictment on ourselves. That we are giving away our lunch money.

I saw the post game interview. Rex Ryan almost was laughing when asked about the call. Look at how he was flipping his hands after field goal was missed. It was not blocked. This is theatre at best.

As for Tom Brady, I would have to believe he is on it too. How is that in all these games, the better QB makes funny plays and keeps the game close. How does NE make Geno Smith look so good. Its all too good to be true

Dude i have been betting this shit for ever and i can tell who the crooks are in this league as well as who are the crooked coaches. It is not hard to do. I used to lose all the time betting against Brett Farve. This fuker was that good. Sure enuf after he got his first superbowl everything changed with him. All huge money plays on him he somehow found a way to screw up. They even had nitwits believing he couldn't play indoors for goodness sakes LMFAO. This shit is so shady and i saw one post where a guy said they don't fix games for the public this is simply not true. Im not the public and these greedy fuks want my money to. They set traps for guys like me also. Last night for instance. (public trap) This was a heavily one sided game bet on Peyton. mounds of money. Now the typical nitwit thinks that the books want equal action on both sides which is such a crock of shit that they can get people to believe this is stunning. Obviously the books took a position in that game. They knew Indy was gonna win. With all this loot on Denver they even got so cocky they lowered the line instead of raising it like they are supposed to. Sure enuf Peyton wasn't Peyton and the coach was calling silly shit like he did last week against the Jags to keep that close. A child should be able to see it. My question to the gullible is why do these bad calls always go to the team that nobody is betting. Oh and why can't you return a muff punt? Why is this not a fumble. You ever notice that when these athletes sign their second contract, a huge free agent contract, all a suddenly they are half the player they use to be. Baseball is the easiest to tell. Oh they also took a position in that FSU Clemson game. Raising that line like somehow their was mounds of money coming in on FSU when they are playing in Clemson.

[ChalkyDog]

Call was bullshit.

Absolute bullshit.

Absolutely hate refs deciding games. "It's in the 'rules'" - I am sick of hearing this goddamn cop out for being a pussy everyday.

[Thor4140]

You're right about this, the play was under 2 mins and could not be reviewed BUT if you watched that game you knew after KC went up by 1 pt, Andy Reid wanted no parts of scoring a TD for the cover, you could tell by the play calling from that point on until the knee at the opp 1 yard line.

i live in Philly and i have seen Reid charade for ever. These fukers from Utah are all crooks. I would be willing to bet 10 thousand of my own money to put Reid under a lie detector and ask him if he ever fixed a game. If i lost i would give him the ten grand or to his favorite charity. If i won he could give me ten bucks. That is how sure i am that these leagues are littered with fuking crooks everywhere. I use to say all the time how rigged the NBA was. Finally i was proven right when one of their crooks finally got pinched. What happens? Two guys stuck up for me and the other hundred bought the league line that it was only Donaghy LMFAO. These are these guys sports heros. It kills them when someone challenges these crooked fukers. They are unreachable.

[Thor4140]

Where is that Goldengreek guy. I know for sure that fuker knows this shit is fixed. He needs to take over this thread lol.

[pulledclear]

" they lowered the line instead of raising it like they are supposed to. "

SBR in a nut shell. Dead as a hammer.

[Thor4140]

" they lowered the line instead of raising it like they are supposed to. "

SBR in a nut shell. Dead as a hammer.

u want to explain that douchebag? Why did the line drop in the Denver game when all the money was on Denver? Im sure u have the answer so lets hear it.

[pulledclear]

Sure I will explain it. You're a fckng IDIOT.

[ZINISTER]

I would like to know the ages of some of you dipshyts. Been in the game since my sophomore year in H.S. I'm 48. Seen Dallas take a dive on me in a playoff game against Vince Farregome? and the Rams. The guy that took me in looked at me and said, "What you witnessed was already played in a hotel room." It took me a second to understand what he meant. Seen Farve throw a ball over his shoulder with his back turned to the line of scrimmage right before half as his team was going in for a score. Into a linemen hands for a pick 6. he is as crooked as they have come in my day!!!!!

[Thor4140]

Sure I will explain it. You're a fckng IDIOT.

i figured ya shut ur mouth. Now sit down clown u have been slapped down

[frostno98]

That play was just as blatant as the Andrew Luck flop last night that resulted in a 15 yard penalty. The Colts would of been forced to punt from their end zone, and Denver would saved two time outs.

[ZINISTER]

I do agree this belongs in a different forum. But, it has gained such traction in this one because the guys that care and get on here for info and not to argue hang in here. I have said several times this year that they don't even care to cover it up anymore. It is so damn obvious!!!

[pulledclear]

EVERY play was scripted, didnt you know that.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Call was bullshit.

Absolute bullshit.

Absolutely hate refs deciding games. "It's in the 'rules'" - I am sick of hearing this goddamn cop out for being a pussy everyday.

I hear ya about the refs deciding a game but don't get the fix shit......Still waiting for people to answer why a very questionable offensive pass interference was called on the Jets bomb for TD late in the game if the Jets were supposed to be the winners.....Would have put them up by 10 instead of a vulnerable 3 points

Refs are just bad overall for many different reasons

[ZINISTER]

Watch the first punt return for a touchdown the Cowboys ran back 2 weeks ago and tell me that the two blocks directly adjacent to the return man were missed by every ref on the field. If I was computer savy, I would put it up for ya to watch. If someone would put it up that has the skills it would at least get some of these dipshyts to shut up. They put it in the ESPN top ten plays of the week last week. The tv station that aired it only ran the replay from the time he reached the sidelines. Explain that one you doubters. Waiting..............

[ChalkyDog]

I hear ya about the refs deciding a game but don't get the fix shit......Still waiting for people to answer why a very questionable offensive pass interference was called on the Jets bomb for TD late in the game if the Jets were supposed to be the winners.....Would have put them up by 10 instead of a vulnerable 3 points

Refs are just bad overall for many different reasons

We're not arguing PI calls.

We're talking a flag, on the game winning moment, for something that had no bearing on the play, and took a huddle to decide on.

Many times the difference between good and great is discretion, and when I see refs and cops fail to use discretion in obvious moments, I take issue with it. When it costs me money, it puts me on the third rail.

[MoneyLineDawg]

We're not arguing PI calls.

We're talking a flag, on the game winning moment, for something that had no bearing on the play, and took a huddle to decide on.

Many times the difference between good and great is discretion, and when I see refs and cops fail to use discretion in obvious moments, I take issue with it. When it costs me money, it puts me on the third rail.

Fair enough, and I get your point on making that call in that situation

But do you believe there was a fix or just a dumb decision?

If you believe it was part of a fix, then I ask again why the PI call late in the 4th quarter? (Not necessarily directed at you, but anyone that believes the game was fixed)

[ChalkyDog]

Fair enough, and I get your point on making that call in that situation

But do you believe there was a fix or just a dumb decision?

If you believe it was part of a fix, then I ask again why the PI call late in the 4th quarter? (Not necessarily directed at you, but anyone that believes the game was fixed)

I lean bad call.

This week there were an abundance of questionable calls, and I wasn't always on the wrong end of them.

I wont say there was obviously something nefarious going on, but that is some shady shit. A lot of money made for an assumed few with that call.

FWIW, if I feel a game is unbalanced because the refs failed miserably for one team over another, I regard that in the same ball park as "rigging".

It's the refs man, it's all the refs. I can handle losing, but when I lose because of the incompetence of the refs - it sends me sideways.

[Time is Money]

and here is the jets breaking the rule "as written" before the game.

Haha, game tying FG?

15 yards and Tom takes them boys in the endzone, there is no OT

Refs in perfect position to make that same call right there

[BriGuy]

We're not arguing PI calls.

What we're arguing is whether the game was fixed or not, so the offensive PI call against the Jets which negated a TD which would have sealed the game is perfectly valid.

We're talking a flag, on the game winning moment, for something that had no bearing on the play, and took a huddle to decide on.

Happens all the time. A penalty that "has no bearing on the play" is still a penalty. As for refs huddling, those happen all the time.

[Luckycharms2012]

With tons of money coming in on live in play lines all game long, it would be to Vegas' advantage to have more suspense and lead changes in the game. The more crazy calls at the ends of games will only create more action live in play.

For instance a PI call against the Jets may make you feel like the Pats and Brady will come back and win. Could just as easily be a trap to get more action.

[Thor4140]

I hear ya about the refs deciding a game but don't get the fix shit......Still waiting for people to answer why a very questionable offensive pass interference was called on the Jets bomb for TD late in the game if the Jets were supposed to be the winners.....Would have put them up by 10 instead of a vulnerable 3 points

Refs are just bad overall for many different reasons

Because when have Brady playing like he never saw a football before u know u are gonna cover. How did u like his last drive. Wide open Gronk he throws it to high. The best and i predicted he would do this was on third down. He threw it so far out of the endzone the guy in the tenth row couldn't even come up with it. He wasn't gonna score on that drive and the three ties it when the line was 3.5 or 4 and u can sure bet he wasn't gonna score a six in overtime.

[Thor4140]

Why you guys think public bettors win more in CFB than in NFL. You can't just rely on crooked refs to help these shit hole teams. That is why teams get buried week after week. Now in the NFL all ya need is ur quarterback to control a game with a refs fine tunning things. Why ya think the NFL won't post the refs before the game starts? Because they know there are guys like me that know a guy like Hochilli is a fuking crook. Same Hochilli that was on another big win for the books yesterday. So the NFL hides this info until ya see the ref on TV.

[swordsandtequila]

Public wins more in CFB because there's a sh*tload more games and it's easier to find value in the lines. Anybody over the age of 12 knows NFL lines are some of the sharpest in sports betting. Contrary to this thread sharp money was on the Jets yesterday.

[Luckycharms2012]

I was on the Jets too, but i knew it was fixed. To be honest, even at the end of the game Geno Smith didn't look THAT excited he won the game. Geno looked very humble and quiet after the win.