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  • Stockdale
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    • 08-07-12
    • 165

    #281
    Originally posted by C-Gold
    Black men are 6.5% of the population but commit over 50% of the kills. Yeah I'd say that's a problem.

    The DOJ also considers Hispanics as White. There is no break down of the white murder rate and the Hispanic murder rate, they lump it all together as one race. Not when you apply for a job, but when you count crime statistics. Why do they do this? To mask the "racist" true of who does all the killings.

    The American suburbs are as safe as anywhere in the world. The American rural areas same thing. It's the urban areas that are war zones.
    and males committed 90% of homicides in that time. Does that mean all men should be killed and lumped together as all being the same?
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    • Stockdale
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      • 08-07-12
      • 165

      #282


      My case: it is rested
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      • C-Gold
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        • 09-04-10
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        #283
        Originally posted by Stockdale
        and males committed 90% of homicides in that time. Does that mean all men should be killed and lumped together as all being the same?
        No it means men are more violent than women.

        If you took away the urban killing rates of black/hispanic men than America is a very safe place to live life.

        Chicago has 500 killings per year thanks to the South Side. If you are walking around the Loop you have very little chance of being shot.
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        • C-Gold
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          • 09-04-10
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          #284
          Originally posted by Stockdale
          What about when an innocent person shoots a killer?

          What about when a woman flashes a gun at a rapist and nobody gets hurt but a crime is prevented?

          If you ban guns what happens to all of the innocent people who would have otherwise owned guns and prevented crime?

          What will you say when guns are banned and there are still plenty of shootings in the ghetto?
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          • Stockdale
            SBR High Roller
            • 08-07-12
            • 165

            #285
            Originally posted by C-Gold
            No it means men are more violent than women.

            If you took away the urban killing rates of black/hispanic men than America is a very safe place to live life.

            Chicago has 500 killings per year thanks to the South Side. If you are walking around the Loop you have very little chance of being shot.
            About how many gun crimes have their been in schools over the last 5 years do you think?
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            • Mac4Lyfe
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-04-09
              • 48437

              #286
              You are correct about black men committing over 50% of all the murders and 45% of all the murders in the US are by white people.

              But here's the thing. White people kill 85% of white people, 93% of black people kill black people. Murder is intraracial (mainly among each other) not interacial. Too many people are buying into the media that black people are out there killing white people. If you also look at racially motivated crimes, 70% are white people targeting black people. Black people are not targeting white people based on statistics but you would think differently if you watch too much TV.

              What most people don't know is that crime is more of class... not race. If you study the numbers it's all about poverty. Hispanics are starting to track right along with blacks in crime numbers. It's starting to concentrate in urban areas for them as well. We need to understand the real problem and not get off on tangents not based on evidence. Blacks, whites, yellows, purples all kill and commit crimes in the same environment. What we have to do is improve these environments.


              Originally posted by C-Gold
              Black men are 6.5% of the population but commit over 50% of the kills. Yeah I'd say that's a problem.

              The DOJ also considers Hispanics as White. There is no break down of the white murder rate and the Hispanic murder rate, they lump it all together as one race. Not when you apply for a job, but when you count crime statistics. Why do they do this? To mask the "racist" true of who does all the killings.

              The American suburbs are as safe as anywhere in the world. The American rural areas same thing. It's the urban areas that are war zones.
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              • Mac4Lyfe
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                • 01-04-09
                • 48437

                #287
                You are very delusional. In the last 10 years, White people have killed white people to the tune of ~8,000 people a year in the US. Almost 90% of all white people killed were by white people. Take away black people killing black or white people and you still have a HUGE problem.

                Originally posted by C-Gold
                No it means men are more violent than women.

                If you took away the urban killing rates of black/hispanic men than America is a very safe place to live life.

                Chicago has 500 killings per year thanks to the South Side. If you are walking around the Loop you have very little chance of being shot.
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                • Stockdale
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 08-07-12
                  • 165

                  #288
                  Originally posted by C-Gold
                  What about when an innocent person shoots a killer?
                  Oxymoron. Once someone shoots another person they are not innocent.

                  Originally posted by C-Gold

                  What about when a woman flashes a gun at a rapist and nobody gets hurt but a crime is prevented?

                  Well isnt that all peaches and cream. What if the rapist gets into a tussle with her and shoot her with her own weapon? If you want something for flash without using it a starters pistol would suffice

                  Originally posted by C-Gold

                  If you ban guns what happens to all of the innocent people who would have otherwise owned guns and prevented crime?
                  We have police officers for that, its not up to citizens to enforce the law with guns. You can help prevent a crime without a gun
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                  • Stockdale
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                    • 08-07-12
                    • 165

                    #289
                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                    What most people don't know is that crime is more of class... not race. If you study the numbers it's all about poverty. Hispanics are starting to track right along with blacks in crime numbers. It's starting to concentrate in urban areas for them as well. We need to understand the real problem and not get off on tangents not based on evidence. Blacks, whites, yellows, purples all kill and commit crimes in the same environment. What we have to do is improve these environments.
                    This.
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                    • C-Gold
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                      • 09-04-10
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                      #290
                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                      You are very delusional. In the last 10 years, White people have killed white people to the tune of ~8,000 people a year in the US. Almost 90% of all white people killed were by white people. Take away black people killing black or white people and you still have a HUGE problem.
                      White people shoot their spouse.

                      If you are walking down the street in the suburbs you are safe.

                      If you are white and walking down the street in the ghetto you are NOT safe.
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                      • C-Gold
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                        • 09-04-10
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                        #291
                        Originally posted by Stockdale
                        Oxymoron. Once someone shoots another person they are not innocent.



                        Well isnt that all peaches and cream. What if the rapist gets into a tussle with her and shoot her with her own weapon? If you want something for flash without using it a starters pistol would suffice



                        We have police officers for that, its not up to citizens to enforce the law with guns. You can help prevent a crime without a gun
                        If somebody tries to rob you or kill you and you shoot them you are innocent.

                        So guns never prevented a crime? They are always bad bad bad?

                        If somebody is trying to hurt you, do you think you want to wait around 10 minutes for the cops in a game of seconds?
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                        • C-Gold
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                          • 09-04-10
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                          #292
                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                          You are correct about black men committing over 50% of all the murders and 45% of all the murders in the US are by white people.

                          But here's the thing. White people kill 85% of white people, 93% of black people kill black people. Murder is intraracial (mainly among each other) not interacial. Too many people are buying into the media that black people are out there killing white people. If you also look at racially motivated crimes, 70% are white people targeting black people. Black people are not targeting white people based on statistics but you would think differently if you watch too much TV.

                          What most people don't know is that crime is more of class... not race. If you study the numbers it's all about poverty. Hispanics are starting to track right along with blacks in crime numbers. It's starting to concentrate in urban areas for them as well. We need to understand the real problem and not get off on tangents not based on evidence. Blacks, whites, yellows, purples all kill and commit crimes in the same environment. What we have to do is improve these environments.
                          There are a lot more black people killing white people than vice versa. Same for rapes, stealing, property crime, assaults etc.

                          Crime is all about class is politically correct bullshit. You are much safer living in a trailer park, a barrio, china town than living next to black section 8 houses and you know it.
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                          • C-Gold
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                            #293
                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                            70% are white people targeting black people. Black people are not targeting white people based on statistics but you would think differently if you watch too much TV.
                            Bull shit. That's due to a sampling error in how they create crime statistics. Every time a white person shoots a black person it's called a hate crime. If a white kid is walking around a black neighborhood and gets shot and killed the news story doesn't lead with HATE CRIME IN HARLEM.
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                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                              • 01-04-09
                              • 48437

                              #294
                              I hate to call someone ignorant but you are borderline. You need to do a study on crime and now on welfare too.

                              The US spends $130 billion a year on welfare. 4% of Americans are on it. 40% are black, 39% is white, 16% are Hispanic. So 4 out of every 100 people. It's not an entire class, race, generation of people. It's a very small segment of the overall population. By comparison we spend close to $700 Billion on our military. We spend more on our military than just about all the top 15 countries combined (China - $150B, Russia - $90B, UK - $60B, etc, etc.)

                              So you're okay spending 5 times more protecting countries most of us have never even visited versus helping people right in our own backyard? That's ludicrous.

                              Do you know about the Savings and Loans crisis in the US? Do some more research. That one crisis cost 3x what welfare cost. That was a white collar crime that we all are still paying for. I don't see your outrage on that one???

                              Do you know how much Hurricane Katrina cost and how much Hurricane Sandy will cost?? About the same amount as welfare. You rather help one community versus helping people across all the states that are in poverty?

                              Do you know what healthcare cost us each year??? How about ~3 trillion dollars. Do you really want to get mad? Research our healthcare and the crime being committed on all of us there. Welfare is the least of our problems.

                              You like many people are biased against welfare. Get over it. We will always have the poor. Welfare does help a lot of people. Do some research and find those people. Don't look at the abuse and waste (there is plenty of that but I'll save that for another discussion). I do think we need welfare reform of some sort but the answer is not to just do away with it. Think man...

                              Originally posted by C-Gold
                              That's what the entire Democrat/Welfare argument boils down to.

                              White Democrats are scared of black people. They think that if there was no welfare, that starving black teens would pack up and rob them as they leave their urban book stores and head home to their condo and cat. Instead, they think that just giving away free food, free housing, free medical care that will keep the black people in the black ghettos and will keep them from committing crimes against enlightened white people like themselves.

                              That's the entire scared white democrat line of thinking right there. More Welfare = less crime.
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                • 01-04-09
                                • 48437

                                #295
                                Please show me all these white kids being killed in Harlem?

                                Do you know that White kids are safer in black ghettos than black people. They come in with money and leave unharmed. The gangs know not to mess up the flow of money.

                                Quit watching TV dude, and please quit posting. You are showing your ignorance.

                                Originally posted by C-Gold
                                Bull shit. That's due to a sampling error in how they create crime statistics. Every time a white person shoots a black person it's called a hate crime. If a white kid is walking around a black neighborhood and gets shot and killed the news story doesn't lead with HATE CRIME IN HARLEM.
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48437

                                  #296
                                  Once again, you would be wrong...

                                  Murders in the last 10 years...

                                  Killed by police in commission of a crime 4,000
                                  Drug related - 6,400
                                  Gang murders - 8,400
                                  Robbery - 10,300
                                  Argument/disagreement - 61,500


                                  C-gold said -
                                  Crime is all about class is politically correct bullshit. You are much safer living in a trailer park, a barrio, china town than living next to black section 8 houses and you know it.
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                                  • Stockdale
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                                    • 08-07-12
                                    • 165

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by C-Gold
                                    If somebody tries to rob you or kill you and you shoot them you are innocent.

                                    So guns never prevented a crime? They are always bad bad bad?

                                    If somebody is trying to hurt you, do you think you want to wait around 10 minutes for the cops in a game of seconds?
                                    Thats why we have armed police to stop crime. It is not the prerogative of every Joe Blow to go out their and try to stop crime with a gun. Armed forces have to go through extensive training to be allowed to use a weapon, yet you believe any yobbo is allowed to just pull his pistol out and start taking pot shots if he thinks there might be a crime going on.

                                    There are other ways to protect yourself other than everyone carrying a gun around on them
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                                    • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                                      • 04-05-10
                                      • 2896

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by Stockdale
                                      Thats why we have armed police to stop crime. It is not the prerogative of every Joe Blow to go out their and try to stop crime with a gun. Armed forces have to go through extensive training to be allowed to use a weapon, yet you believe any yobbo is allowed to just pull his pistol out and start taking pot shots if he thinks there might be a crime going on.

                                      There are other ways to protect yourself other than everyone carrying a gun around on them
                                      Self protection is just one part of owning a gun, most people use guns responsibly for many legal uses, we are not all carrying guns around looking for crimes to stop. By the way, police rarely STOP a crime, they can respond and possibly figure out who committed it.
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                                      • The Kraken
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                                        • 12-25-11
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                                        #299
                                        Cgold is just throwing around his opinion while Mac is basing his opinion on facts. Typical
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                                        • C-Gold
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                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                          I hate to call someone ignorant but you are borderline. You need to do a study on crime and now on welfare too.

                                          The US spends $130 billion a year on welfare. 4% of Americans are on it. 40% are black, 39% is white, 16% are Hispanic. So 4 out of every 100 people. It's not an entire class, race, generation of people. It's a very small segment of the overall population. By comparison we spend close to $700 Billion on our military. We spend more on our military than just about all the top 15 countries combined (China - $150B, Russia - $90B, UK - $60B, etc, etc.)

                                          So you're okay spending 5 times more protecting countries most of us have never even visited versus helping people right in our own backyard? That's ludicrous.

                                          Do you know about the Savings and Loans crisis in the US? Do some more research. That one crisis cost 3x what welfare cost. That was a white collar crime that we all are still paying for. I don't see your outrage on that one???

                                          Do you know how much Hurricane Katrina cost and how much Hurricane Sandy will cost?? About the same amount as welfare. You rather help one community versus helping people across all the states that are in poverty?

                                          Do you know what healthcare cost us each year??? How about ~3 trillion dollars. Do you really want to get mad? Research our healthcare and the crime being committed on all of us there. Welfare is the least of our problems.

                                          You like many people are biased against welfare. Get over it. We will always have the poor. Welfare does help a lot of people. Do some research and find those people. Don't look at the abuse and waste (there is plenty of that but I'll save that for another discussion). I do think we need welfare reform of some sort but the answer is not to just do away with it. Think man...
                                          No you are the ignorant one.

                                          We have 50 million Americans on food stamps. There are hundreds of programs, tax exemptions and free medical care and section 8 housing out there BESIDES Welfare. Welfare isn't the only program dumb ass.

                                          The US Military budget is insane, so that doesn't make our welfare spending justified.

                                          Hurricate Katrina? Let me guess, George Bush's fault. Hurricane Sandy? Let me guess, Global warmings fault?
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                                          • C-Gold
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                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

                                            Do you know that White kids are safer in black ghettos than black people. They come in with money and leave unharmed. The gangs know not to mess up the flow of money.

                                            .
                                            Time to get out of the coffee shop and enter the real world. You are one IGNORANT MOFO.

                                            Ohhhh yeahhhhh, the ghetto is a real safe place. You could walk around there all the time and nothing will ever happen to you. Do you understand how stupid you sound? You read it in a book one time in psychology class so it must be true! Freaking ass clown.
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                                            • C-Gold
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                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              Cgold is just throwing around his opinion while Mac is basing his opinion on facts. Typical
                                              The Kraken. Where do you live?

                                              Another coffee shop clown that has never even driven by a remotely dangerous neighborhood. Keep living in your fantasy world.

                                              You saw a black person in college once so you are an expert on race relations.
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                                              • The Kraken
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                                                • 12-25-11
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                                                #303
                                                I live in OKC. What does that have to do with anything? I went to High School at one of the most pre-dominantly black high schools in the state, roughly 90% black. I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks as a kid. I've spent the majority of my life around a majority of black people.

                                                You think you're the only that has a valid opinion because you grew up around blacks? I've eaten more black pussy than you, so does that make my argument any more valid?

                                                Get with it kid.

                                                Here's a pic of the HS football team

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                                                So tell me again how cultured you are
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                                                • Chi_archie
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                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                  Please show me all these white kids being killed in Harlem?

                                                  Do you know that White kids are safer in black ghettos than black people. They come in with money and leave unharmed. The gangs know not to mess up the flow of money.

                                                  Quit watching TV dude, and please quit posting. You are showing your ignorance.

                                                  very true
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48437

                                                    #305
                                                    You wouldn't know what a ghetto look like. Stop watching TV playa.

                                                    Originally posted by C-Gold
                                                    Time to get out of the coffee shop and enter the real world. You are one IGNORANT MOFO.

                                                    Ohhhh yeahhhhh, the ghetto is a real safe place. You could walk around there all the time and nothing will ever happen to you. Do you understand how stupid you sound? You read it in a book one time in psychology class so it must be true! Freaking ass clown.
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                                                    • Optional
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                                                      #306
                                                      You guys should stick to the argument and not bash each other.

                                                      Cgold has an interesting perspective and is doing well to keep talking about it rather than just flinging insults. (even if I dont agree with his basic position)





                                                      Originally posted by C-Gold


                                                      That's what the entire Democrat/Welfare argument boils down to.

                                                      White Democrats are scared of black people. They think that if there was no welfare, that starving black teens would pack up and rob them as they leave their urban book stores and head home to their condo and cat. Instead, they think that just giving away free food, free housing, free medical care that will keep the black people in the black ghettos and will keep them from committing crimes against enlightened white people like themselves.

                                                      That's the entire scared white democrat line of thinking right there. More Welfare = less crime.
                                                      Improving the lot of the lowest rungs does not have to be handouts with no incentive attached, but welfare is important. It's so few of our population that are the worst and in reality costs so little to plug the very bottom of the barrel with cash.

                                                      The bottom of the barrel being the people "we all hate" to hand out stuff too. Those that will never change or try or contribute to society.

                                                      Adults working for 5 or 10 bucks an hour is de-humanizing in a rich society like America. The financial divide this one aspect of US culture creates is a major factor in crime rates imho.

                                                      Most of you can afford to pay more for your goods and services, and doing so through higher minimum wage laws is like an investment in your own quality of life that pays off like +200 winner.

                                                      Then take away the burden of people having to decide if they can afford to see a doctor or pay for medication and you are well on your way to bringing those lower rungs way up and fast.

                                                      And thats before even thinking about handouts.
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                                                      • bettilimbroke999
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                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                        • 13254

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by Stockdale
                                                        and males committed 90% of homicides in that time. Does that mean all men should be killed and lumped together as all being the same?
                                                        This means that males commit way more murders than women...that's the truth

                                                        Blacks commit way more murders than whites...that's the truth
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                                                        • opie1988
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                                                          • 09-12-10
                                                          • 23429

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          very true
                                                          Let us never forget....Archie is a raging libtard.

                                                          Hence he's immense popularity over at gaylive.
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                                                          • bettilimbroke999
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                                                            • 02-04-08
                                                            • 13254

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by Stockdale
                                                            Thats why we have armed police to stop crime. It is not the prerogative of every Joe Blow to go out their and try to stop crime with a gun. Armed forces have to go through extensive training to be allowed to use a weapon, yet you believe any yobbo is allowed to just pull his pistol out and start taking pot shots if he thinks there might be a crime going on.

                                                            There are other ways to protect yourself other than everyone carrying a gun around on them
                                                            A ****** walks up to you and asks for your money and bc hes bored, psycho, racist or just doesnt want a witness he shoots you anyway...what are the odds the police are going to happen by at this exact moment and stop you from getting shot....police dont STOP crime they PUNISH crimes (at least the crimes they solve and in cities like Memphis theres so much crime only murder is even worth investigating) in order to deter future crime....blacks are simply not threatened by prison bc they run the prisons bc they are such a majority population by committing so many crimes. Niggers are in the projects acting like niggers just like they do in prison...prison is just a different shithole to hangout with the same niggers.

                                                            To truly deter crime we need to adopt some real punishments...that kid who vandalized the cars (white kid) in Singapore bc he was bored would've gotten a couple days in jail here in US and been back out vandalizing cars and escalating his criminal activity....but in Singapore that cane rippin into those buttcheeks insured that sob never vandalized another car again.
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48437

                                                              #310
                                                              ^^^ Bettilimbroke - you are muddying the waters like your friend Cgold with misinformed, misleading, race baiting jibberish.

                                                              I'm going to let you in on a secret... The 2 main reasons we have such high crime rates among blacks are Ronald Reagan and Len Bias. Both of them were most responsible for the "War on Drugs". That war in the 80's - 2000's, incarcerated hundreds of thousands of black men (mostly) and woman. By putting these men in prison (when they should have been in medical treatment) it not only dissolved the black family structure but you now labeled these folks as felony criminals when the majority were non violent. So a guy is entered in the prison system. He learns how to become a criminal. He learns about violence first hand. What do you think happens when he is released? He has no chance of a job, no chance of making anything of himself. But he learned criminal ways by being incarcerated. That guy is now your worst enemy.

                                                              The US incarcerates more people per capita than any other nation. Most of these people detained could have been rehabilitated but there's no money in helping people. The real money is in the prison system. I could give you a history lesson on prisons.

                                                              Do you really think blacks and Hispanics commit more crime than white people? That's what the media wants you to think because it fuels their agenda. White people are just as prone to commit crimes in the same environment. It's all about environment. Those same white people doing drugs in the 80's/90's were often not searched, many times let go by white police officers and did less time or no time using far more dangerous drugs that were not even prosecuted in most courts.

                                                              Add to all that the following...

                                                              Individuals of color have a disproportionate number of encounters with law enforcement, indicating that racial profiling continues to be a problem. A report by the Department of Justice found that blacks and Hispanics were approximately three times more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than white motorists. African Americans were twice as likely to be arrested and almost four times as likely to experience the use of force during encounters with the police.

                                                              I could give you example after example of blacks being arrested for bullshit. I'm a UF fan and one of our players got arrested recently for barking at a police dog. The arresting officer then tried everything to get him to resist by shoving him, putting on the cuffs too tight and hitting him during the arrest (it's all on video). Another player got arrested for throwing a sandwich at someone. If you saw those videos, you would laugh and not think it was serious but this shit goes on everyday. You now add an arrest record to 2 guys for bullshit. You now label him a bad character. If he doesn't make it to the NFL, what do you expect him to do when people turn him down for jobs because you pigeon holed him?

                                                              Talk to some of these guys in the inner city. Ask them if they were ever stopped and frisked for no reason. Continue to treat people like animals and they will lash out. We are reaping what we have sown. We have disregarded thousands of people that are so poor, hungry and desperate. What do you think happens when these people have no hope.

                                                              Sure build more prisons. Increase the punishment. All you're doing is putting a band aid on the problem and it cost a lot more money.
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                                                              • ChalkyDog
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                                                                • 10-02-11
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                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                Chalky - the bible says to not charge your brother but you can most certainly charge someone you don't know. If you read all the scriptures on the subject you have to look at intent. Your intentions should be to help the person in need. So charging exorbitant interest rates that are unfair is bad as well.
                                                                Deuteronomy 23:19-20 ESV / 148

                                                                “You shall not charge interest on loans to your brother, interest on money, interest on food, interest on anything that is lent for interest. You may charge a foreigner interest, but you may not charge your brother interest, that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land that you are entering to take possession of it.

                                                                I'd also like to point out that of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, nearly half (24) held seminary or Bible school degrees. Deist believe there is a God, they just don't think he is concerned about daily dealings. Many people today, don't even believe there's a God. That's a huge difference.
                                                                In an effort not to get too bogged down into a biblical discussion, the bible isn't the only main religious text with this same principle. Brother in the bible is an interesting term in and of itself. If just taking that one aspect out, it states foreigner, which even then meant foreigner.

                                                                Maybe this is the reason we (the government) allowed major banks to take out loans .01% interest, and then allowed them (the banks) to turn around and essentially lend it back to the government at 3% - essentially giving the filthy rich even more money free money on the tax payers dime? That is incredibly very Christian of this nation. (although I have other words to describe it).

                                                                Deists believe in "god" in a very general sense, but are more concerned with the natural world. To call them Christian is incorrect. To assume their "god" is a Christian one, is taking a leap of faith at best. Especially considering it's a very simple and logical conclusion to think they went out of their way to self-associate as Deists.

                                                                Once again, I don't want to get into a discussion on this topic, because well - just no. However I appreciate the response.
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 48437

                                                                  #312
                                                                  ^^^ I certainly don't think the bible is the only religious text with great principles on good character. I think the lack of teaching these principles is the main reason we see these heinous crimes at such an alarming rate. Getting rid of God has not helped us as a society IMO. Relying on parents to teach their kids morale principles isn't working. I'm in favor of the schools returning to teaching it because we have too many screwed up parents who can't. All those opposed to religion being taught in school have themselves to blame.
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                                                                  • tony_come
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-31-10
                                                                    • 21695

                                                                    #313
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                                                                    • The Kraken
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 12-25-11
                                                                      • 28918

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      ^^^ Bettilimbroke - you are muddying the waters like your friend Cgold with misinformed, misleading, race baiting jibberish.

                                                                      I'm going to let you in on a secret... The 2 main reasons we have such high crime rates among blacks are Ronald Reagan and Len Bias. Both of them were most responsible for the "War on Drugs". That war in the 80's - 2000's, incarcerated hundreds of thousands of black men (mostly) and woman. By putting these men in prison (when they should have been in medical treatment) it not only dissolved the black family structure but you now labeled these folks as felony criminals when the majority were non violent. So a guy is entered in the prison system. He learns how to become a criminal. He learns about violence first hand. What do you think happens when he is released? He has no chance of a job, no chance of making anything of himself. But he learned criminal ways by being incarcerated. That guy is now your worst enemy.

                                                                      The US incarcerates more people per capita than any other nation. Most of these people detained could have been rehabilitated but there's no money in helping people. The real money is in the prison system. I could give you a history lesson on prisons.

                                                                      Do you really think blacks and Hispanics commit more crime than white people? That's what the media wants you to think because it fuels their agenda. White people are just as prone to commit crimes in the same environment. It's all about environment. Those same white people doing drugs in the 80's/90's were often not searched, many times let go by white police officers and did less time or no time using far more dangerous drugs that were not even prosecuted in most courts.

                                                                      Add to all that the following...

                                                                      Individuals of color have a disproportionate number of encounters with law enforcement, indicating that racial profiling continues to be a problem. A report by the Department of Justice found that blacks and Hispanics were approximately three times more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than white motorists. African Americans were twice as likely to be arrested and almost four times as likely to experience the use of force during encounters with the police.

                                                                      I could give you example after example of blacks being arrested for bullshit. I'm a UF fan and one of our players got arrested recently for barking at a police dog. The arresting officer then tried everything to get him to resist by shoving him, putting on the cuffs too tight and hitting him during the arrest (it's all on video). Another player got arrested for throwing a sandwich at someone. If you saw those videos, you would laugh and not think it was serious but this shit goes on everyday. You now add an arrest record to 2 guys for bullshit. You now label him a bad character. If he doesn't make it to the NFL, what do you expect him to do when people turn him down for jobs because you pigeon holed him?

                                                                      Talk to some of these guys in the inner city. Ask them if they were ever stopped and frisked for no reason. Continue to treat people like animals and they will lash out. We are reaping what we have sown. We have disregarded thousands of people that are so poor, hungry and desperate. What do you think happens when these people have no hope.

                                                                      Sure build more prisons. Increase the punishment. All you're doing is putting a band aid on the problem and it cost a lot more money.
                                                                      They're not even hiding it in NYC. In fact, the police chief came out the other day and basically said "Ya, we're targeting blacks because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime", it's the NYC stop and frisk program. From 2002-2011, 90% of those stopped and frisked were either black or latino. Only 0.2% of the stops lead to the seizure of a gun Which is the main objective of the program, get guns off the street.
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                                                                      • 747planes
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 08-25-13
                                                                        • 658

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Best way to fix the black problem in usa is to give one state to the blacks and make a law that they can live only in that state...they can can have obama too! If they wander across the border, shoot them at sight
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