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  • tuckman
    SBR Hustler
    • 11-17-07
    • 79

    #176
    The problem with BetIslands right now is they built their reputation on same day payouts. When they first popped up, they needed a niche so that was it and they lived up to those standards quite well which landed them with the book to be with for all you squares. Now that its a few days for a P2P, they have nothing to offer anyone. Its surely not their lines, or their mass options to wager, etc etc. If they cant get back to same day P2P, they are just another vanilla shop not worth using.
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    • JasonDC
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-06-12
      • 391

      #177
      This is mind boggling to me..with the problems Debtislands are having there is no way i would admit that the boss and his sidekick Ryan are on vacation..even if it were true i would never tell people that..people are pissed they cant get their money and you tell them the boss cant help solve your problem because he is on vacation...again! amazing.
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 51991

        #178
        Originally posted by tuckman
        The problem with BetIslands right now is they built their reputation on same day payouts. When they first popped up, they needed a niche so that was it and they lived up to those standards quite well which landed them with the book to be with for all you squares. Now that its a few days for a P2P, they have nothing to offer anyone. Its surely not their lines, or their mass options to wager, etc etc. If they cant get back to same day P2P, they are just another vanilla shop not worth using.
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        • CollegePro
          SBR MVP
          • 02-23-09
          • 4006

          #179
          Originally posted by JasonDC
          This is mind boggling to me..with the problems Debtislands are having there is no way i would admit that the boss and his sidekick Ryan are on vacation..even if it were true i would never tell people that..people are pissed they cant get their money and you tell them the boss cant help solve your problem because he is on vacation...again! amazing.
          this!
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          • RealSlimShady
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-24-07
            • 6249

            #180
            Originally posted by JasonDC
            This is mind boggling to me..with the problems Debtislands are having there is no way i would admit that the boss and his sidekick Ryan are on vacation..even if it were true i would never tell people that..people are pissed they cant get their money and you tell them the boss cant help solve your problem because he is on vacation...again! amazing.
            If that's what they are saying, I'd say betislands accounts are worth maybe 25c on the dollar...... Pretty good chance they'll not survive this run on the bank.
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            • bubba
              SBR MVP
              • 09-29-05
              • 2432

              #181
              Originally posted by JasonDC
              This is mind boggling to me..with the problems Debtislands are having there is no way i would admit that the boss and his sidekick Ryan are on vacation..even if it were true i would never tell people that..people are pissed they cant get their money and you tell them the boss cant help solve your problem because he is on vacation...again! amazing.
              jon i cannot speak for but ryan was supposed to be in all week (that's what he told me yesterday) and he had a personal emergency to take care of (that is what i was told today)
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              • tuckman
                SBR Hustler
                • 11-17-07
                • 79

                #182
                Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                If that's what they are saying, I'd say betislands accounts are worth maybe 25c on the dollar...... Pretty good chance they'll not survive this run on the bank.

                .25 cents on the dollar? They are paying out still, so just be up in line first before they run out of loot if the run on the bank continues.
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                • darkhat
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-18-10
                  • 5722

                  #183
                  Originally posted by tuckman
                  The problem with BetIslands right now is they built their reputation on same day payouts. When they first popped up, they needed a niche so that was it and they lived up to those standards quite well which landed them with the book to be with for all you squares. Now that its a few days for a P2P, they have nothing to offer anyone. Its surely not their lines, or their mass options to wager, etc etc. If they cant get back to same day P2P, they are just another vanilla shop not worth using.
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                  • Smoke
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-09-09
                    • 48111

                    #184
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #185
                      Originally posted by ttrace35

                      Had houston won last night I would have probably gotten paid today.

                      Originally posted by No coincidences

                      The over is what got them, too.

                      Sammy had both, NE & Ov

                      I'm glad I deal with a solid Local & Bookmaker/DSI (5Dimes & Heritage)
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                      • tuckman
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 11-17-07
                        • 79

                        #186
                        I honestly dont believe its a money issue as much of an incompatence issue and prossing problem. If it was indeed a money issue why the hell would they have aquired a dead 7red book and agreed to pay the scam artist Cory and apparently are doing so. I do think if the run on the bank continues, it will then become a money issue as well. GTFO either way though, you can always re-deposit once the smoke clears if they walk away still up and running and able to process those same day P2P
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                        • ttrace35
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-30-10
                          • 10828

                          #187
                          Somebody give their email address please.
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                          • cloverfield
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 12-24-10
                            • 862

                            #188
                            Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                            If that's what they are saying, I'd say betislands accounts are worth maybe 25c on the dollar...... Pretty good chance they'll not survive this run on the bank.
                            IF they get everything working right in 2 weeks...I'll love to bump this thread and your posts in here and see if you eat crow.
                            This is just the topic of the day...everyone jumping on board when the issue has already been explained.

                            I don't even play there or necessarily like them and still realize these threads are without merit. Jon posted many times on this forum in the last week on what the issue is..it's not like it just popped up today. 3/4 of the posters in this thread don't even have a pending withdrawal...everyone just jumps on the ship.

                            Something tells me everyone saying "BETISLANDS IS DONE" will forget they said it when they are back up and running fine in a week or two...Let's see what you say if that happens.
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                            • woodsy5822
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 06-06-08
                              • 239

                              #189
                              Originally posted by tuckman
                              I honestly dont believe its a money issue as much of an incompatence issue and prossing problem. If it was indeed a money issue why the hell would they have aquired a dead 7red book and agreed to pay the scam artist Cory and apparently are doing so. I do think if the run on the bank continues, it will then become a money issue as well. GTFO either way though, you can always re-dopsit once the smoke clears if they walk away still up and running and able to process those same day P2P


                              maybe they bouught 7red casue they saw this coming?? i dont know just a possibility.. i agree with what you are saying though...
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                              • darkhat
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-18-10
                                • 5722

                                #190
                                Originally posted by Smoke
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                                • Fire in da hole
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-29-10
                                  • 6262

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by bubba
                                  jon i cannot speak for but ryan was supposed to be in all week (that's what he told me yesterday) and he had a personal emergency to take care of (that is what i was told today)
                                  Yeah, he had to get the hell out of dodge with everyone's money....
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                                  • Ra77er
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-20-11
                                    • 10969

                                    #192
                                    Cloverfield obviously Jon's ghost. How's the weather in Maui?
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                                    • ttrace35
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-30-10
                                      • 10828

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by cloverfield
                                      IF they get everything working right in 2 weeks...I'll love to bump this thread and your posts in here and see if you eat crow.
                                      This is just the topic of the day...everyone jumping on board when the issue has already been explained.

                                      I don't even play there or necessarily like them and still realize these threads are without merit. Jon posted many times on this forum in the last week on what the issue is..it's not like it just popped up today. 3/4 of the posters in this thread don't even have a pending withdrawal...everyone just jumps on the ship.

                                      Something tells me everyone saying "BETISLANDS IS DONE" will forget they said it when they are back up and running fine in a week or two...Let's see what you say if that happens.
                                      SO what? I hope thats exactly what happens. Been there over 2 years and loved it. Wish it does get better in 2 weeks.
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                                      • Smoke
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-09-09
                                        • 48111

                                        #194
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                                        • JasonDC
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-06-12
                                          • 391

                                          #195
                                          The guy i spoke to today, his name was Rudy, told me that he used to work for betislands and was rehired to help with customer service, he said this was his first day back on the job..it will be interesting to see if Ryan comes back..i wish i could bet on whether or not the story of Ryan being away for a 'personal emergency' is true..id unload my whole account that it's a BS story..A good general manager would never leave his business for a vacation at a time when many of his clients are unhappy and have questions to be answered..im sorry Jon but thats the truth.
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                                          • RealSlimShady
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-24-07
                                            • 6249

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by tuckman
                                            I honestly dont believe its a money issue as much of an incompatence issue and prossing problem. If it was indeed a money issue why the hell would they have aquired a dead 7red book and agreed to pay the scam artist Cory and apparently are doing so. I do think if the run on the bank continues, it will then become a money issue as well. GTFO either way though, you can always re-deposit once the smoke clears if they walk away still up and running and able to process those same day P2P
                                            Not sure, but say if you had a big balance there and someone offered you 90% of value in cash now, I'm sure you'd take it. I don't know what fair value is on $ there, but it certainly isn't 100%. Maybe my estimate of 25% is low, but there's risk to account balances there if they're not paying in a timely fashion.
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                                            • Cuse0323
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-09-09
                                              • 30169

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by ttrace35
                                              SO what?
                                              Jon will come in with a nice essay to clear everyone's worries for a bit until the shit hits the fan again. Hopefully people see the writing on the wall and stop playing at that dump with shit lines, shit CS and shit management. But, people are entitled to do as they wish, as stupid as it may be.
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                                              • Smoke
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-09-09
                                                • 48111

                                                #198
                                                Hey darky, I don't get why people just don't deal with Wager Chief Shawn aka Ryan " fast payout " Rossi , he will take care of all their needs. #1 clerk in the industry
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                                                • tuckman
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 11-17-07
                                                  • 79

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                                                  Not sure, but say if you had a big balance there and someone offered you 90% of value in cash now, I'm sure you'd take it. I don't know what fair value is on $ there, but it certainly isn't 100%. Maybe my estimate of 25% is low, but there's risk to account balances there if they're not paying in a timely fashion.
                                                  I get they are not paying out on a timely fashion to their standards they have set, and checks stopped out of no place (bullshit excuse to use Sandy), but they are still processing P2P within a few days, that is great compared to most books and even A rated books.

                                                  If BetIsland was smart to save their reputation and this is indeed not a money issue, find a few guys in the states, pay them a few % to help facilitate money out to customers in a timely fashion. They still get the fees they normally get and it might cost a bit more than that to get the help stateside, but in the longterm, that few extra % would save their reputation and it would be made back 10 fold
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                                                  • RealSlimShady
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-24-07
                                                    • 6249

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by cloverfield
                                                    IF they get everything working right in 2 weeks...I'll love to bump this thread and your posts in here and see if you eat crow.
                                                    This is just the topic of the day...everyone jumping on board when the issue has already been explained.

                                                    I don't even play there or necessarily like them and still realize these threads are without merit. Jon posted many times on this forum in the last week on what the issue is..it's not like it just popped up today. 3/4 of the posters in this thread don't even have a pending withdrawal...everyone just jumps on the ship.

                                                    Something tells me everyone saying "BETISLANDS IS DONE" will forget they said it when they are back up and running fine in a week or two...Let's see what you say if that happens.
                                                    Sure, bump it. I could very well be wrong.
                                                    But when the people who are supposedly in charge of paying are suddenly "on vacation" it should raise red flags. Nothing more, nothing less.
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                                                    • tuckman
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 11-17-07
                                                      • 79

                                                      #201
                                                      Probably alot easier for BI to make one mass payment or 2 mass payments to someone stateside with a % for them to help over say 300 P2P that have been requested at this point. Its not a longterm solution but one that could bail them out of the current situation
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                                                      • Iwinyourmoney
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 04-18-07
                                                        • 18368

                                                        #202
                                                        Unreal.

                                                        My $12 to win $290 on the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl better get paid.

                                                        Popcorn....easy on butter extra salt
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                                                        • CollegePro
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-23-09
                                                          • 4006

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by Smoke
                                                          Hey darky, I don't get why people just don't deal with Wager Chief Shawn aka Ryan " fast payout " Rossi , he will take care of all their needs. #1 clerk in the industry
                                                          why are you reposting this??
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                                                          • darkhat
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-18-10
                                                            • 5722

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by CollegePro
                                                            why are you reposting this??
                                                            it was flying illini's quote of the week last week so it is part of some deal they have
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                                                            • paranoyd androyd
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-01-11
                                                              • 6459

                                                              #205
                                                              surprise surprise, another thread about this dogshit costa rican book and its absentee, lying dickhead owner.

                                                              how many of these is it going to take for people to stop playing there forever?
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                                                              • DudleyDawson
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-10-12
                                                                • 5658

                                                                #206
                                                                Betislands has never stiffed anyone, ever.

                                                                They deserve the benefit of the doubt here.
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                                                                • William Walters
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 6372

                                                                  #207
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                                                                  • No coincidences
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                                    • 76300

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                                    Betislands has never stiffed anyone, ever.

                                                                    They deserve the benefit of the doubt here.
                                                                    Weren't you the one who yelled "FIRE!" in a crowded room on BetIslands a few weeks back?
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                                                                    • ttrace35
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-30-10
                                                                      • 10828

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                                      Betislands has never stiffed anyone, ever.

                                                                      They deserve the benefit of the doubt here.
                                                                      Everybody always pays. Until that 1 day when they dont.
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                                                                      • Smoke
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 10-09-09
                                                                        • 48111

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by darkhat
                                                                        it was flying illini's quote of the week last week so it is part of some deal they have
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