Chiefs player kills himself and girlfriend

[Mac4Lyfe]

Wow, KC loses another LB to tragedy. Derrick Thomas died in an auto accident a few years ago as well.

Prayers to everyone involved.

Really sad....I was just in Arrowhead last Sunday to see PManning since I was in KC to see family anyway. I just took Carolina -3......everyone has to be mentally sharp to stop the read option and I don't see the Chiefs being ready to play after this. They haven't won a home game all year anyway.

[mynameismud]

Hi guys -

For most people this will just involve reading about a random stranger committing murder and then suicide. However for others this will stir up some really dark feelings. Especially with a child involved. This isn't funny and I'm shocked that anyone would even attempt to make it so.

Should you find yourself struggling for any reason please contact a legitimate staff member at SBR privately. We can't pay your bills or stop your wife from hating the NBA but we can direct you towards many avenues of assistance and/or just listen. Men are notoriously horrid for dealing with depression which = a much higher rate of suicide than women. Add being a gambler into that, it's much worse. We need to take care of each other and overcome the stigma of asking for help.

i agree with almost every word you just spoke. but wtf, are you going to refer someone to a shrink at 5dimes?

[Cuse0323]

i agree with almost every word you just spoke. but wtf, are you going to refer someone to a shrink at 5dimes?

Sometimes people just need something, anything, to get them through that minute, hour or day so they don't do something drastic. I lost someone to suicide and it sucks thinking what you could or should have done. Plenty of places that will help someone get through that moment and direct to them to more help for the future.

[dj_destroyer]

It's very sad. But it's never too soon for a good joke.

I never jump to conclusions in situations like these because so much surfaces in the coming days... who was cheating on who, who wanted the kid, who was on drugs, motives, witnesses, etc.

Very senseless... but I think the only play is Carolina. KC D will look inside and notice one of their starting brethren gone and it will just bring up the very recent memories of this tragedy.

[Chi_archie]

people are being very insenstive to the needs of the sharp people in this thread...

let's get back to capping this game and stop with the interruptions about touchy feely shit!

so will the chiefs likely activate a Linebacker off their practice squad? you have to realize this will affect the special teams as well.

[mynameismud]

Sometimes people just need something, anything, to get them through that minute, hour or day so they don't do something drastic. I lost someone to suicide and it sucks thinking what you could or should have done. Plenty of places that will help someone get through that moment and direct to them to more help for the future.

i totally agree with you. it just doesnt seem feasible that the mods here at sbr have the resources or the training to deal with something this traumatic.

[Cuse0323]

i totally agree with you. it just doesnt seem feasible that the mods here at sbr have the resources or the training to deal with something this traumatic.

Understood and probably right, but at least they will give an effort. Nice to know.

[Goat Milk]

if I started a thread and told you a guy I know got shot 5 times 3 weeks ago after being setup by a girl would anyone care? i don't have any suicide stories but if someone did shoot their mom and then kill themselves would you all respond?

only reason why you guys care is because he played in the National Football League. Give me a break. Way crazier shit than this happens everyday. We shouldn't feel sorry for him.

[The Giant]

Is it weird that ever since I've heard of this Belcher incident, I can't stop burping?

[daneblazer]

Did it in front of two coaches? Damn

[Cuse0323]

if I started a thread and told you a guy I know got shot 5 times 3 weeks ago after being setup by a girl would anyone care? i don't have any suicide stories but if someone did shoot their mom and then kill themselves would you all respond?

only reason why you guys care is because he played in the National Football League. Give me a break. Way crazier shit than this happens everyday. We shouldn't feel sorry for him.

No one feels sorry for him, I feel sorry for the kid.

[Deuce]

I don't give a fukk. Pay me millions to play a game I won't be able to find a reason to kill myself let alone my kids mother. Coward as bitch in my eyes.

[mynameismud]

if I started a thread and told you a guy I know got shot 5 times 3 weeks ago after being setup by a girl would anyone care? i don't have any suicide stories but if someone did shoot their mom and then kill themselves would you all respond?

only reason why you guys care is because he played in the National Football League. Give me a break. Way crazier shit than this happens everyday. We shouldn't feel sorry for him.

i feel sorry for the people that loved him. trust me, i have way more compassion for animals than humans...but my uncle died years ago, so ive seen 1st hand how a mother losing her son effects a family. my grandmother has never been the same.

[hels]

i feel sorry for the people that loved him. trust me, i have way more compassion for animals than humans...but my uncle died years ago, so ive seen 1st hand how a mother losing her son effects a family. my grandmother has never been the same.

goatmilk is a troll. His thoughts and opinions are worthless so there is no need to respond.

Suicides happen everyday, hopefully it doesn't happen to someone close.

I am sure there is more to this murder suicide then we know right now.

To those that have died, I hope you RIP

[shari91]

i agree with almost every word you just spoke. but wtf, are you going to refer someone to a shrink at 5dimes?

haha no although I actually think Tony's tough love would work for some. The best we can offer is to direct people to organisations that specialise in depression and suicide prevention depending on their country and let someone know we have their back. No one here is pretending to be a lifesaver... my point was I get the guys late at night who are often quite upset. They're tilting, gf hates them, lost their next 2 mths rent money, etc. It's a fine line - or I guess certain cells and neuro stuff - in someone's brain that separates those who can eventually shake off some things and those who can't. Or distinguishes between someone who gets mega upset for an hour about a loss and forgets about it or someone who not only holds on to it but turns it into a manifestation of self loathing. Like I said, we can't pay your bills or make your lady love a certain sport but we can sure as fok help point those who need help in the right direction considering how many organisations there are out there. Often someone - mainly a man - just needs someone else to make the call or at least have their back while they talk. Probably not in the official mod job description but considering how many times we do it a month, I think we're getting quite effective. Get us down to doing it once a year if that and then we know we've won.

[bruins35]

a wrestler did this same thing few years ago ,can;t rember his name. this is a case of steriods and rage.Seen this story before.

[The Giant]

a wrestler did this same thing few years ago ,can;t rember his name. this is a case of steriods and rage.Seen this story before.

Chris Benoit.

I was thinking the same thing. Except in Benoit's case, he killed the kid, too.

[mynameismud]

haha no although I actually think Tony's tough love would work for some. The best we can offer is to direct people to organisations that specialise in depression and suicide prevention depending on their country and let someone know we have their back. No one here is pretending to be a lifesaver... my point was I get the guys late at night who are often quite upset. They're tilting, gf hates them, lost their next 2 mths rent money, etc. It's a fine line - or I guess certain cells and neuro stuff - in someone's brain that separates those who can eventually shake off some things and those who can't. Or distinguishes between someone who gets mega upset for an hour about a loss and forgets about it or someone who not only holds on to it but turns it into a manifestation of self loathing. Like I said, we can't pay your bills or make your lady love a certain sport but we can sure as fok help point those who need help in the right direction considering how many organisations there are out there. Often someone - mainly a man - just needs someone else to make the call or at least have their back while they talk. Probably not in the official mod job description but considering how many times we do it a month, I think we're getting quite effective. Get us down to doing it once a year if that and then we know we've won.

wowzer...i had no idea so many posters turn to you with their list of problems. takes someone with a big heart to console a bunch of degens. i know i couldnt do it.

[tblues2005]

I was beginning to wonder what is the cause and that could be drugs here. There is many questions of what happened in this case.

[hels]

Chris Benoit.

I was thinking the same thing. Except in Benoit's case, he killed the kid, too.

During Benoit's autopsy they had him tested for any form of drugs and what they found was relatively insignificant levels to elicit the behavioral responses he displayed.
Researchers took his brain for analysis. His brain was very comparable to a brain of a 75-80 year old with severe stages of Alzheimers.
.

• McKee, Ann C. et al. (2009). Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy in Athletes: progressive Tauopathy After Repetitive Head Injury. Journal of Neuropathology and Experimental Neurology, 68(7): 709-735

[Smoke]

haha no although I actually think Tony's tough love would work for some. The best we can offer is to direct people to organisations that specialise in depression and suicide prevention depending on their country and let someone know we have their back. No one here is pretending to be a lifesaver... my point was I get the guys late at night who are often quite upset. They're tilting, gf hates them, lost their next 2 mths rent money, etc. It's a fine line - or I guess certain cells and neuro stuff - in someone's brain that separates those who can eventually shake off some things and those who can't. Or distinguishes between someone who gets mega upset for an hour about a loss and forgets about it or someone who not only holds on to it but turns it into a manifestation of self loathing. Like I said, we can't pay your bills or make your lady love a certain sport but we can sure as fok help point those who need help in the right direction considering how many organisations there are out there. Often someone - mainly a man - just needs someone else to make the call or at least have their back while they talk. Probably not in the official mod job description but considering how many times we do it a month, I think we're getting quite effective. Get us down to doing it once a year if that and then we know we've won.

[WvGambler]

UPDATED DEC 1, 2012 1:14 PM ET

KANSAS CITY, MO. (AP)
Police say Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Javon Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend early Saturday, then drove to Arrowhead Stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp confirmed it was Belcher, a fourth-year player from West Babylon, N.Y., who played college ball at Maine. The woman's name has not yet been released.

Snapp said Belcher shot the woman at a Kansas City residence, then drove to the Chiefs facility. He thanked Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel for all they had done for him, then shot himself.

The Chiefs say Sunday's home game against the Carolina Panthers will go on as scheduled.

[The Giant]

During Benoit's autopsy they had him tested for any form of drugs and what they found was relatively insignificant levels to elicit the behavioral responses he displayed.
Researchers took his brain for analysis. His brain was very comparable to a brain of a 75-80 year old with severe stages of Alzheimers.
.

• McKee, Ann C. et al. (2009). Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy in Athletes: progressive Tauopathy After Repetitive Head Injury. Journal of Neuropathology and Experimental Neurology, 68(7): 709-735

If this guy Belcher turns out to have had brain injuries, concussions, etc., all hell is going to break loose in the NFL.

[hels]

If this guy Belcher turns out to have had brain injuries, concussions, etc., all hell is going to break loose in the NFL.

Concussion protocols are much greater nowadays but I have to agree a shit storm is brewing with the number of NFL player/retiree suicides.

Junior Seau and OJ Murdock both killed themselves this past summer.

Maybe the players association should implement that all active players salaries have a 1% 'tax' for retired players help/care/therapy

[tto827]

No one feels sorry for him, I feel sorry for the kid.

And the two coaches who had to witness it, and everyone who cares for anyone involved in the chaos.

[Cuse0323]

And the two coaches who had to witness it, and everyone who cares for anyone involved in the chaos.

Definitely

[BigSpoon]

KC should just forfeit the game, I doubt anyone wants to play tomorrow. They are 1-10 and Carolina is 3-8 so its not going to affect the playoff picture.

[JakeLc]

Dave Duerson killed himself and requested his brain be studied for the effects of football on brain injuries

[hels]

Dave Duerson killed himself and requested his brain be studied for the effects of football on brain injuries

Duerson and Seau shot themselves in the chest.

Is there evidence Belcher shot himself in the chest?

[JakeLc]

Reports have emerged and sources have confirmed that linebacker Javon Belcher apparently killed himself in front of general manager Scott Pioli and Coach Romeo Crennel.

Belcher died Saturday morning at Arrowhead Stadium, minutes after he apparently had shot and killed his girlfriend in an incident at 54th and Crysler Ave. in Kansas City.


"About (7:50 a.m), we got a call to a residence, in regards to a shooting, on the 5400 block of Crysler Ave.," KCPD spokesman Darin Snapp said via NFL.com. "We arrived and the lady there informed us that her daughter had been shot by her on-again, off-again boyfriend. The young woman was taken to a local hospital, where she died a short time later.


"At about 8:10 a.m., we received a call to the Arrowhead practice facility in regards to a black male armed with a gun in the parking lot, and he matched the description of the shooting suspect," Snapp continued. "Officers arrived, saw a black man with a gun to his head, and some Chiefs employees. As the officer got out of his car, he heard a gunshot. It appeared the individual shot himself. He was transported to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

[mynameismud]

just came out that belchers mom was in town visiting him and was there when he killed his girlfriend. the mom tried to keep belcher there but couldnt, and called the police as he was leaving.

[Killer_Demo]

thats crazy how the coaches and personnel saw him and tried to calm him down

[TheMoneyShot]

Belcher's girl had HIV... and Belcher may have contracted HIV. Source may not be accurate. But that's the word now.

[mynameismud]

Belcher's girl had HIV... and Belcher may have contracted HIV. Source may not be accurate. But that's the word now.

wtf...seriously?

[KingJD31]

Played against him in hs