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  • InTheDrink
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-23-09
    • 23983

    #71
    Originally posted by onlooker
    I'm talking about this play today.

    All TD's are reviewed. They should of reviewed it like normal, and tack on the 15 yard penalty after.

    To have points on the board that shouldn't be there, is fuking terrible.
    Understand. Like I said this play probably wasn't thought about when making that rule. It might be changed but regardless there's a loophole for a lot of rules.
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    • Bluehorseshoe
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-06
      • 15004

      #72
      I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?
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      • brainfreeze0
        SBR MVP
        • 03-19-12
        • 2146

        #73
        Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
        I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?

        Thats how I see it. If anything let the challenge happen even if it would have and charge them a timeout if theyre wrong
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        • PAULYPOKER
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-06-08
          • 36581

          #74
          The "Bogus" TD highlight has been taken down on NFL.com
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          • Cuse0323
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            • 12-09-09
            • 30169

            #75
            Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
            I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?
            I guess the 5 seconds it takes for someone to go pick up the flag is delaying the game already delayed by reviewing every play except ones that are important. The NFL is becoming a pussy league run by morons.
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            • yisman
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-01-08
              • 75682

              #76
              Originally posted by InTheDrink
              Understand. Like I said this play probably wasn't thought about when making that rule. It might be changed but regardless there's a loophole for a lot of rules.
              this rule isn't with unreviewable plays

              it only comes up when something that is automatically reviewed by the booth (a score or turnover) is challenged by the coach.
              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
              [/quote]

              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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              • PaperTrail07
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-29-08
                • 20423

                #77
                OT enjoy
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                • Naz18
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-10-09
                  • 4277

                  #78
                  Nobody has mentioned the head coaches race...if it was a black coach his race would of been mention a numerous amount of times....
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                  • ZetaPsi808
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-18-08
                    • 12119

                    #79
                    lions are a fukkin joke

                    jim swarztch
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                    • paco
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-07-09
                      • 62873

                      #80
                      Covered the +3.5 but shoulda cashed ml also
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                      • ZetaPsi808
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-18-08
                        • 12119

                        #81
                        Originally posted by paco
                        Covered the +3.5 but shoulda cashed ml also
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                        • Mr KLC
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                          • 12-19-07
                          • 31097

                          #82
                          I would like to congratulate Justin Forsett and Jim Schwartz on the longest run from scrimmage in Texan history.
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                          • Rich Boy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-01-09
                            • 9714

                            #83
                            Maybe Schwartz had Forsett on his fantasy team
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                            • opie1988
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-12-10
                              • 23429

                              #84
                              Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                              lions are a fukkin joke

                              jim swarztch
                              One of the leagues worst, along with the Cowboys and jags.
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                              • Ambition
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-17-11
                                • 2060

                                #85
                                It's really a dumb rule. Yes, he should know the rule but, I feel like just because he throws the flag shouldn't make the play unreviewable, the Lions should lose a timeout or something. That was obviously the game changing play which gave Houston the win but, come on with that rule. Honestly really really stupid and would be shocked if that rule is still in the NFL next year or at least modified to where the play can still be reviewed.
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                                • opie1988
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-12-10
                                  • 23429

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Ambition
                                  It's really a dumb rule. Yes, he should know the rule but, I feel like just because he throws the flag shouldn't make the play unreviewable, the Lions should lose a timeout or something. That was obviously the game changing play which gave Houston the win but, come on with that rule. Honestly really really stupid and would be shocked if that rule is still in the NFL next year or at least modified to where the play can still be reviewed.
                                  Understandable, but for now it is a rule. Coaches have to know that. Period.

                                  Not that it really matters, as Lions are fighting with Cowboys and Jags for overall #1 pick.
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                                  • doublej95
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 14094

                                    #87
                                    whats the point of even having red flags to challenge plays anymore. almost every fukking play is looked at now. the two challenges a game made it more interesting. the NFL will rule and police their game to death just like Nascar has done.
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                                    • Ambition
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-17-11
                                      • 2060

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by opie1988
                                      Understandable, but for now it is a rule. Coaches have to know that. Period.

                                      Not that it really matters, as Lions are fighting with Cowboys and Jags for overall #1 pick.
                                      But, this is the first year of the rule. All the coaches are so used to throwing the flag in that situation and if they do you give them the worst consequence ever!? Making the play non-reviewable. To me it's unfair and something so harmless of an act to throw the flag that they shouldn't be given such a harsh penalty with a 15 yard penalty and the play can't be reviewed. IMO, the punishment doesn't match the crime.
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                                      • TheCentaur
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-28-11
                                        • 8108

                                        #89
                                        Just sick of refs being so critical in deciding who wins the games. All these camera angles, challenge flags, booth officials, and it's still numbskulls blowing or not blowing their whistle and then nothing can be done about it because it's in the rules

                                        They need a master official that can call in and override bullshit to preserve the integrity of the game
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                                        • easyliving
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-25-12
                                          • 8876

                                          #90
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                                          • onlooker
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                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 36572

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by opie1988
                                            Coaches have to know that. Period.
                                            I'm sure many didn't know the review would be voided, but I'm sure they wrote it down on their play cards.
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                                            • keyboarding
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-30-09
                                              • 6817

                                              #92
                                              What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63172

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by keyboarding
                                                What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.

                                                this is the question I'd like to see answered

                                                from all the "its a rule in black and white, shwartz should know it"

                                                a savy belichek coach could do something like that, and if there are not actual rules written to prevent a team from making a scoring play unreviewable by throwing a flag even if it is in their favor, the refs would have to make up a ruling on the fly.
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                                                • opie1988
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-12-10
                                                  • 23429

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by keyboarding
                                                  What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.
                                                  If that penalty was called on the scoring team, the 15 yards would be penalized from the last spot of the ball, prior to scoring. Therefore negating the touchdown.

                                                  So I don't think that would be all that smart of a move.....
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                                                  • opie1988
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-12-10
                                                    • 23429

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                    this is the question I'd like to see answered

                                                    from all the "its a rule in black and white, shwartz should know it"

                                                    a savy belichek coach could do something like that, and if there are not actual rules written to prevent a team from making a scoring play unreviewable by throwing a flag even if it is in their favor, the refs would have to make up a ruling on the fly.
                                                    Bi-Arch.....this is the NFL, not one of your GayLive peace music festivals. While this rule may need to be reviewed in the offseason, as of now its in the rule book.

                                                    It is what it is.
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                                                    • WvGambler
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-19-10
                                                      • 11618

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by keyboarding
                                                      What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.
                                                      The announcers addressed this. They said you can't benefit from the replay if you threw the challenge flag. So if Houston would've thrown it, it would've been reviewed and overturned....because the person who threw the flag would not be benefitting from the challenge.
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                                                      • ttwarrior1
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                                                        • 06-23-09
                                                        • 28460

                                                        #97
                                                        yes bad call, but lions couldnt stop houston, houston came back, converted a 4th down, went 97 yards and deserve the win.
                                                        Houston still could of scored that drive. Sue should of had a couple penalties himself
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                                                        • doublej95
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-26-10
                                                          • 14094

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                                          yes bad call, but lions couldnt stop houston, houston came back, converted a 4th down, went 97 yards and deserve the win.
                                                          Houston still could of scored that drive. Sue should of had a couple penalties himself
                                                          they also could have been stopped on that drive it would have been 3 down and 3.
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                                                          • wrongturn
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-06-06
                                                            • 2228

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by opie1988
                                                            If that penalty was called on the scoring team, the 15 yards would be penalized from the last spot of the ball, prior to scoring. Therefore negating the touchdown.

                                                            So I don't think that would be all that smart of a move.....
                                                            Are you sure with this one? The action triggering penalty came after the play completed, so the 15 yards penalty should be enforced in the next play, right?
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                                                            • Mike Huntertz
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-19-09
                                                              • 11207

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by OldHickory
                                                              shwartz needs to get fukkin fired..what a clown...

                                                              what a stupid fukkin rule though !
                                                              Yup!
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                                                              • mngambler
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-01-11
                                                                • 2890

                                                                #101
                                                                Kitties season is toast, if the Vikes can scrap out a win this weekend the NFC North will get real interesting
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                                                                • keyboarding
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-30-09
                                                                  • 6817

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by wrongturn
                                                                  Are you sure with this one? The action triggering penalty came after the play completed, so the 15 yards penalty should be enforced in the next play, right?
                                                                  This is what I was thinking. I don't believe a flag can be applied retroactively.
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                                                                  • TexansFan
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-06-06
                                                                    • 3365

                                                                    #103
                                                                    This same call just happened last week in the Atlanta game. If a coach doesn't know the rule after the same damn thing happened four days ago, and after it was all over ESPN, and all over the NFL Network, then that's too penetrating bad.

                                                                    Even Schwartz said after the game he knew the rule.

                                                                    Stupid is as stupid does.

                                                                    10-1!
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                                                                    • ramones951
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-23-08
                                                                      • 2356

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Completely defeats the purpose of having video reviews
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                                                                      • Robber
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                                                                        • 10-21-09
                                                                        • 6432

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Lions got screwed
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