Counting cards in LIVE online casinos???

pokeraddict2012 · 10-25-12, 04:38 PM

thats crazy! i would like to tail lol!

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by pokeraddict2012

thats crazy! i would like to tail lol!

Funny thing is, the site where I'm playing currently allows other bettors to "bet behind" any seat... so you really could just tail me LOL

But you can do it yourself, counting cards is incredibly easy.

hawley · 10-25-12, 04:43 PM

rm18 · 10-25-12, 04:43 PM

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dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 04:50 PM

Will I get limited soon?

Never really heard of limits in the casino but I'm sure it happens.

Avenger · 10-25-12, 04:53 PM

I tested this at SBR casino. It worked great the first day, then in one session I lost over 90 pts (I was betting a pt a hand, doing a small martingale).

Not doubting that it does work, but variance is a biatch.

byronbb · 10-25-12, 04:55 PM

I would be more worried this violates TOS in some manner and they take all your winnings.

boeing power · 10-25-12, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by dj_destroyer

Will I get limited soon?

Never really heard of limits in the casino but I'm sure it happens.

You probably should have stayed quiet and cash out most of it.

Why draw attention?

Now if they don't pay you, you can't use sbr to help you.

pulledclear · 10-25-12, 05:01 PM

King Swizz · 10-25-12, 05:04 PM

ttwarrior1 · 10-25-12, 05:07 PM

isn't it a new deck every hand?

mynameismud · 10-25-12, 05:10 PM

if you keep winning at this pace, they will eventually block you from their blackjack. its only a matter of time unless you lose it all back.

biggie12 · 10-25-12, 05:44 PM

There is counter measures to prevent people from counting @ the live casino. Like burning a card after every hand for e.g

another nonsense thread. WTG

If you gonna count go buy million dollar blackjack. read it reread it.

Learn how to keep running count. Count down 1 deck in less then 30 seconds. Move on to true count. Practice 200 more hours out of casino. You might have an edge then. I say you might because chances are you will mess up sometimes in your count which will kill any edge you get.

BobFish · 10-25-12, 06:35 PM

If this is at 5 Dimes or Sportbet you need to start cashing out. See my post on the thread further down about the best online live casinos. DO NOT count any cards. Do not change your bets during a shoe, only at shuffles or new sessions. Follow its advice except if the dealer shows a ten or ace take the early payout if it says to stand or double, except BJ of course.

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by biggie12

There is counter measures to prevent people from counting @ the live casino. Like burning a card after every hand for e.g

another nonsense thread. WTG

If you gonna count go buy million dollar blackjack. read it reread it.

Learn how to keep running count. Count down 1 deck in less then 30 seconds. Move on to true count. Practice 200 more hours out of casino. You might have an edge then. I say you might because chances are you will mess up sometimes in your count which will kill any edge you get.

The casino I play at does NOT burn cards. Penetration is about 75%. No continuous shuffling machine. 8 deck shoes that you see shuffled right in front of you.

Already use true count obviously. Counting is super easy in an online casino because I just run a program that does all the hard work.

I withdrew $5000 of it already via wire transfer. Also, I vary my bets almost every few hands.

MeatWad · 10-25-12, 06:55 PM

How many decks do they use and how deep is the penetration? Those two factors are crucial when determing whether a game can be beaten.

I was not aware this was an opportunity. I cannot imagine they would allow you to plow them regularly. Casinos will sure put the rough touch down when they discover you are raping them with counting.

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by MeatWad

How many decks do they use and how deep is the penetration? Those two factors are crucial when determing whether a game can be beaten.

I was not aware this was an opportunity. I cannot imagine they would allow you to plow them regularly. Casinos will sure put the rough touch down when they discover you are raping them with counting.

Check the post above. 7 or 8 deck shoes. About 75% penetration.

Sam Odom · 10-25-12, 07:04 PM

sharp post

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

sharp post

Sammy, tell me why they're letting me withdraw $5000 and letting me continue to play?

Because they think it's luck. I'm going to show them.

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 07:08 PM

Been using the 18 illustrious deviations to cash in my EV.

Sam Odom · 10-25-12, 07:09 PM

dj_

this post is 'bad' on your part , IMO

not as bad as Fishhead's post from 8yrs ago

MeatWad · 10-25-12, 07:15 PM

Keep plowing them. Having made good money counting cards, I know the most important thing is finding an exploitable game that will allow you to play.

Are you playing at 5dimes? I never look at the games as I assume they are safe guarded against proficient counters. Seems like it would be easy for them to recognize how widely you are spreading your bets and how this tends to happens as deck penetration increases.

Sam Odom · 10-25-12, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by byronbb

I would be more worried this violates TOS in some manner and they take all your winnings.

"Professional card counters are prohibited. If you are found to be a professional card counter, your account is subject to immediate closure." 5Dimes

Sam Odom · 10-25-12, 07:17 PM

Try getting your winnings from Tony on a close acct , good luck

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

dj_

this post is 'bad' on your part , IMO

not as bad as Fishhead's post from 8yrs ago

Not sure what post you're referencing.

And I don't know what you mean... there are whole FORUMS dedicated to card counting. It's not illegal or even incriminating to talk about it.

I'll even give up the program I use ---> http://www.blackjackcardcounter.net/download/

dj_destroyer · 10-25-12, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Try getting your winnings from Tony on a close acct , good luck

Not 5Dimes... Also already withdrew 5k via wire transfer.

BobFish · 10-25-12, 08:48 PM

The rule you quote is under the rules for the regular live BJ game, not the early payout version which doesn't require any card counting.

pulledclear · 10-25-12, 08:52 PM

Its not Rigged.

Kindred · 10-25-12, 09:11 PM

sportsbook.com got taken for a decent amount from a counter and now they have rules on their website allowing them to close the accounts of suspected counters.

So figure out some good cover play to look like a degen or whatever site you're on will cut you off

dj_destroyer · 10-26-12, 12:49 PM

Oct 26 11:14am-1:42pm (+95) 2h28m

daneblazer · 10-26-12, 12:54 PM

using software?

dj_destroyer · 10-26-12, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by daneblazer

using software?

Post 26. Very basic counter.

dj_destroyer · 10-29-12, 02:19 AM

Just lost 2800 in a 12 hour session... WAS NOT counting like a fricken idiot.

I must be the biggest bozo in the league.

lottowin · 11-22-12, 05:47 AM

I doubt it works... the casino might be live, but still operates on software. I think you could use some hack tools or bots to do the counting, but this will get you banned for sure.