Gamblers outraged over Hawks vs 49ers ending

[SBR Lou]

Gamblers outraged over Hawks vs 49ers ending

Many sports bettors are starting to believe the Seattle Seahawks have more than just lady luck on their side. Divine intervention, referee influence, and even opposing head coach decisions are some of what's believed to have helped Seattle jump out to a 5-2 record against the spread in 2012. | Read more

[mynameismud]

im sure it was pure chaos inside the las vegas books last night.

[Smoke]

No outrage here

I had seahawks 1st half and game

Thanks harbaugh

[Mikail]

I'd respect them more if they'd just admit the truth. The safety was declined in order to save books money.

[Sam Odom]

I'd respect them more if they'd just admit the truth. The safety was declined in order to save books money.

[Bcatswin]

Got chimped!

[Rookie-Capper]

thats why you buy off the 3 and 7
I had 49ers -6

a very strange decision though I have never seen that before

[milwaukee mike]

so let's see what has to happen for this conspiracy of point shaving to be true

1) high/low block in the endzone on 4th down
2) receiver gets stopped inches short of a first down
3) harbaugh somehow magically knows he will still be short of a first down when they review it, so feels comfortable ONLY declining the penalty conditionally on turnover on downs

so let's see who is involved - the 3 guys involved in the penalty, every one of the officials, the receiver and tackler keeping him just short, and harbaugh. all of whom decided the easiest way to have the seahawks cover the spread was a crazy situation involving 12 people

[TxAaron]

I'd respect them more if they'd just admit the truth. The safety was declined in order to save books money.

All these conspiracy theories are fukking retarded. Every coach in the league would have declined the penalty since they were getting the ball back on the spot...

Why the fukk would anyone take 2 pts in that situation when you can take the knee and guarantee a win...

Believe it or not, NFL coaches don't give a fukk about covering a spread so you can win 40 bucks.

[Russian Rocket]

I had them over 37.5 - I should be outraged with just my thinking...

[byronbb]

Its more suspicious that the refs called that penalty. They tried to rig the game for the sharps that pounded this line to -9.5 but they got harbaughed.

[boeing power]

thats why you buy off the 3 and 7
I had 49ers -6

a very strange decision though I have never seen that before

Buying points in the nfl will kill you long term rookie,

You got lucky last night but playing -6 at -130 is -ev.

[d2bets]

You know what...if you ignore the notion of s betting spread entirely, which is what coaches should do when making decisions, then harbsughs decision was the correct one. Granted, a loss was improbable even with the safety, but if the recovered an insides then it is possible. That's why the hawks took the safety in the first place, because it gave them a better chance to win. Harbaugh just agreed.

[jjgold]

coaches can care less about spreads

they want to win games period

this is so overblown

[uncynd]

I'd respect them more if they'd just admit the truth. The safety was declined in order to save books money.

Background: I had ZERO action on last nights' NFL game

Not sure if serious? Gotta be a troll.....do people actually think that taking the safety and not ending the game in one play is the correct decision? I gotta say to me that is the correct coaching choice, remember teams don't play to cover spreads they play to win games.

[jrmartin.mig]

That's not a very reliable news website. I would be more interested if it came from a more credible source.

[ermzzy]

its not a wrong or right decision either way they would have won, but made me and alot of 49ers angry. it should have been an automatic accept for the extra 2pts

[boeing power]

its not a wrong or right decision either way they would have won, but made me and alot of 49ers angry. it should have been an automatic accept for the extra 2pts

It was the right decision.

Decline,take knee,game over.

[dimaggio8]

I had them over 37.5 - I should be outraged with just my thinking...

A lot of us have been there with unusual thinking.

[Hankwins]

It was the right decision.

Decline,take knee,game over.

Exactly, they don't play the game for bettors. bettors should be mad at themselves for not buying a half or full point.

[smoke a bowl]

so let's see what has to happen for this conspiracy of point shaving to be true

1) high/low block in the endzone on 4th down
2) receiver gets stopped inches short of a first down
3) harbaugh somehow magically knows he will still be short of a first down when they review it, so feels comfortable ONLY declining the penalty conditionally on turnover on downs

so let's see who is involved - the 3 guys involved in the penalty, every one of the officials, the receiver and tackler keeping him just short, and harbaugh. all of whom decided the easiest way to have the seahawks cover the spread was a crazy situation involving 12 people

Lol good times.

[Mikail]

You "it was the right call" guys are a fuckin joke!

FYI I had Seahawks +8

[d2bets]

You "it was the right call" guys are a fuckin joke!

FYI I had Seahawks +8

Why? He took the clearest, easiest and most sure path to victory -- kneel down. I don't think anyone's ever lost a kneel down. Improbable as it would have been, teams have lost due to onsides kicks, even multiple recoveries. It's 1 in 10,000 vs. 0 in 10,000. Plus no chance of injury on kneel down.

[SBR Lou]

I remember Tony Romo fumbling the ball during a victory formation. If I'm not mistaken, the other team recovered.

[badguy]

I'm sure Pete wouldn't have to pay for a room in Vegas if he went there on Vacation..

[badguy]

Exactly, they don't play the game for bettors. bettors should be mad at themselves for not buying a half or full point.

Or even more mad if they took 49ers at -7.5 to 9 that bus left the station the minute it came off 7..

[notsosharp]

To the guys that say it is guaranteed win in victory formation. Think again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0

[SBR Lou]

To the guys that say it is guaranteed win in victory formation. Think again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0

Maybe that's the one.

[jmiezie]

If you accept the penalty you risk losing players on the punt return or a freak fumble happens and Seattle scores with a chance of a onside kick. Declining the penalty was the right call as all you have to do is take a knee.

[Mikail]

You take the points and make it a 2 possession game. You also are receiving the ball. All this mind you with less than a minute remaining in regulation.

[wrongturn]

Are you sure that is victory formation? With a receiver positioned far left? Chargers tried to run a play to get better field goal position and backfired.

[uncynd]

The risk of injury when you take the safety vs one kneel down play is just too much to ignore.

[yisman]

Rivers once fumbled on a kneeldown.

There was of course the Piscarcik/Herm Edwards play.

Secondly, the Seahawks did not "intentionally take a safety" as has been suggested. They got penalized when trying to convert on 4th down.

Whichever choice Harbaugh made, the 49ers had over a 99.9% chance of winning, so it's splitting hairs.

As for the kickoff, people are inflating Seattle's chances of recovering an onside kick. You can't use a tee on a free kick so it makes it more difficult for the kicking team to successfully run an onside kick.

For me, I would've taken the ball and kneeled to avoid having a kickoff at all, with the chance of injury.

[wrongturn]

Agree that both choices have the lock of century written all over it, the coach just took the simplest and easiest one. I don't even know that he thought about injury risk associated to kicks.

[McBa1n]

Yeah, it's silly time to think taking the safety was the correct play. In fact, you're not considering your 'hands team' i.e. the guys you pay a lot to be fast and catch or intercept the football. Do you want to risk one of them getting railed on during the ensuing onside kick?
Worst case scenario declining the crap safety call - you fumble the snap and MAYBE Seattle is able to tie the game. Worst case scenario - losing a top corner or WR trying to field an onside kick for the season.

Take the 2 knees, get outta there - enjoy your win. Sorry for the punters this cost, but there's no way in any universe taking the 2 points is the right decision. I wonder what the math is on fumbled victory formation stats. It's gotta be 750 or 1000 to 1.