ODDS of online LIVE BJ being 100% legit ?

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  • captrobey
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    • 09-02-10
    • 34395

    #36
    Does not seem legit to me. Just played at a couple places sportbet.com was one and dealer won every hand but one . Other place i played was same way got 20-21 every hand and even ones they did not would never go over.
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    • smitch124
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-19-08
      • 12566

      #37
      Damn I thought this was a live porn thread
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #38
        Sammy been playing brick/mortar casino BJ for 30+ years... Many times Sammy 'KNEW' the dealers were cheating or the decks were rigged

        Have lost 6-8x in a row and seen dealers make 21 with six cards
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        • SplitAces
          SBR Sharp
          • 09-22-12
          • 434

          #39
          i have played a bunch of live BJ. They do who show you the decks at certain points before they open a table and shuffle. However, I can not say for sure they do not manipulate it later in some way. What I have experienced is that it is fair. They use 8 decks and the leave a lot on the bone at he end so counting is basically pointless. I am plus in my hours of play, not much but I feel it is fair.

          On the other hand online casino is 100% rigged against player. You may win at brief moments but they have the word payout margins imaginable and have zero regulation.I have disabled all online casino games at my books. It is basically stealing.
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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #40
            Originally posted by SplitAces

            I have disabled all online (software) casino games at my books. It is basically stealing.

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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388208

              #41
              I think only strict regulation is Europe/UK

              You see much more crazy stuff oniline because speed of play is much faster
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              • justluvtowin
                SBR Rookie
                • 10-23-13
                • 2

                #42
                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                Meaning the deck[s] are full and legal ?

                The rules arent too bad... need 'surrender' tho
                what online casino would you recommend as being on of the best? Bovada?
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #43
                  Originally posted by justluvtowin

                  what online casino would you recommend as being on of the best?

                  Bovada?

                  Best LIVE ones? The ones with the best rules for players. Sammy been playing into the one 1-V i c e uses. They offer Surrender
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                  • captrobey
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-02-10
                    • 34395

                    #44
                    Originally posted by SplitAces
                    i have played a bunch of live BJ. They do who show you the decks at certain points before they open a table and shuffle. However, I can not say for sure they do not manipulate it later in some way. What I have experienced is that it is fair. They use 8 decks and the leave a lot on the bone at he end so counting is basically pointless. I am plus in my hours of play, not much but I feel it is fair.

                    On the other hand online casino is 100% rigged against player. You may win at brief moments but they have the word payout margins imaginable and have zero regulation.I have disabled all online casino games at my books. It is basically stealing.
                    Split are you saying you have played live BJ online or just Live BJ at a casino? I was referring to Live BJ online which although it seems a little better then just playing straight up online (Just not Live) the dealer still seems to get 20-21 a hell of a lot more then all the players do.
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #45
                      Originally posted by captrobey

                      I was referring to Live BJ online... the dealer still seems to get 20-21 a hell of a lot more then all the players do.

                      How is that possible (without slight of hand*) unless the shoe has more ACEs and TEN value cards than normal <--- If that be the case then the shoe would favor the PLAYER

                      *Sammy dont believe these girl dealers are magicians... They can barely deal while scanning the cards
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                      • SplitAces
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 09-22-12
                        • 434

                        #46
                        Originally posted by captrobey
                        Split are you saying you have played live BJ online or just Live BJ at a casino? I was referring to Live BJ online which although it seems a little better then just playing straight up online (Just not Live) the dealer still seems to get 20-21 a hell of a lot more then all the players do.
                        Both but what I was saying in this thread was live online BJ. It has been fair in my experience. One thing I do is leave the table after 3 losing hands in a row because I believe in flow and streaks. I go to other table immediately. GL
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                        • captrobey
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                          • 09-02-10
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                          How is that possible (without slight of hand*) unless the shoe has more ACEs and TEN value cards than normal <--- If that be the case then the shoe would favor the PLAYER

                          *Sammy dont believe these girl dealers are magicians... They can barely deal while scanning the cards
                          I am not sure how it would be possible . But it just keeps happening to me over and over . The dealer at one point on sportbet.com beat me every hand but one. I kept getting the 1st card a 10 then the 2nd was always a 4 or 5 . The dealer kept getting 20-21 Over and over a lot of times she would draw 5 cards equaling 20 or 21. My last hand i was so frustrated i just bet the rest of what i had left. I had a 19 which was the best i had in awhile. She gets like 5 cards that end up with 20 . Again.
                          I guess it just seems fishy to me. Could there be some way they are cheating i mean there really are no other people there where they are right? The only time out of all those hands i actually had a 20(with $150 on he table) she ended up with another 5 cards that equaled 21.
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                          • captrobey
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-02-10
                            • 34395

                            #48
                            Originally posted by SplitAces
                            Both but what I was saying in this thread was live online BJ. It has been fair in my experience. One thing I do is leave the table after 3 losing hands in a row because I believe in flow and streaks. I go to other table immediately. GL
                            Lol Split i did EXACTLY that . After losing several hands there i went somewhere else. Same bad stuff there too. Dealer gets 20-21 Over and Over .
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                            • SBR_John
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-12-05
                              • 16471

                              #49
                              I actually think the vast majority of online casinos are legit. At least legit in the way that their random number generators function in a way that gives a player the true odds of the game he is playing. My reasoning is that they make sooo much money being legit why would they need to be jacked?

                              Plus, sportsbook and even SBR lease casino software from fairly substantial companies. The source code is not only closed but doesn't even live on our servers, its piped in from the casino software company. It is impossible to alter. The sportsbook can adjust the rules like offer surrender or don't offer surrender but can't affect or even access the random number generator.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388208

                                #50
                                Sore losers say casinos are rigged although I still think non usa type online casinos are more tightly regulated than CR ones

                                SBR Casinos pays out approx 10,000 points per day
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #51
                                  So... For everyone to be on the same page. Most of us are discussing LIVE DEALERS ONLINE BJ

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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388208

                                    #52
                                    Live dealers more legit Sammy than anything even in CR
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                                    • captrobey
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 09-02-10
                                      • 34395

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                      I actually think the vast majority of online casinos are legit. At least legit in the way that their random number generators function in a way that gives a player the true odds of the game he is playing. My reasoning is that they make sooo much money being legit why would they need to be jacked?

                                      Plus, sportsbook and even SBR lease casino software from fairly substantial companies. The source code is not only closed but doesn't even live on our servers, its piped in from the casino software company. It is impossible to alter. The sportsbook can adjust the rules like offer surrender or don't offer surrender but can't affect or even access the random number generator.
                                      Simple- to get back the money you win at sportsbetting. If you are though John talking about just Casinos online not Sportsbooks then i do not know about those. When i look at the History of basically all the different ones i play at it is ALWAYS at least a 4-1 ratio of dealer to player on the amount of 20s and 21s i have gotten. There is no way it is random when this happens over and over and over.
                                      It is my own stupid fault for playing them though . I need to stay away i was good for awhile but i recently broke down.
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                                      • pinnacle420
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-01-12
                                        • 6254

                                        #54
                                        No chance at all that online blackjack is legit... No live cards no live shoe, no live deal, no way, just my 2 cents
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388208

                                          #55
                                          Anything online even live is quicker than live at a casinos so your going to see more crazy stuff
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                                          • captrobey
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                                            • 09-02-10
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                            So... For everyone to be on the same page. Most of us are discussing LIVE DEALERS ONLINE BJ

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                                            Yup thats the damn crap i was playing yesterday. If this was sportsbet.com i guarentee you the next card is a 6.
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                                            • pinnacle420
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 10-01-12
                                              • 6254

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by captrobey
                                              Yup thats the damn crap i was playing yesterday. If this was sportsbet.com i guarentee you the next card is a 6.
                                              Haha they have midgets with Down syndrome dealing there? No reason why they are a shit book lol
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                                              • captrobey
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-02-10
                                                • 34395

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by pinnacle420
                                                Haha they have midgets with Down syndrome dealing there? No reason why they are a shit book lol
                                                Lol Omg she does look like that. I think at one point she was Married to Danny Devito was'nt she.
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                                                • Sam Odom
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                  • 58063

                                                  #59
                                                  Check this out...

                                                  Four natural 21s on same table... Sammy had two of them

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                                                  • tnvolfan10
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 02-10-12
                                                    • 59

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                    Best LIVE ones? The ones with the best rules for players. Sammy been playing into the one 1-V i c e uses. They offer Surrender

                                                    Sammy are you up +$$ at 1V playing BJ?
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by tnvolfan10

                                                      Sammy are you up +$$ at 1V playing BJ?

                                                      The LIVE Casinos are 'add on' to the sportsbooks - Heritage uses the same one as 1V

                                                      Probably up a few $$$

                                                      The casino balances are reverted back to sportsbook when finished --- Do not keep a separate ledger
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                                                      • tnvolfan10
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 02-10-12
                                                        • 59

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                        The LIVE Casinos are 'add on' to the sportsbooks - Heritage uses the same one as 1V

                                                        Probably up a few $$$

                                                        The casino balances are reverted back to sportsbook when finished --- Do not keep a separate ledger


                                                        Have always wanted to play online BJ but all the negative reports and also unregulated I have never
                                                        given it a try.............
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                                                        • NRach9
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 05-16-08
                                                          • 4

                                                          #63
                                                          Xvvn
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                                                          • cruzing vato
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-21-12
                                                            • 538

                                                            #64
                                                            Yeah, I would never pay for an online blowjob. Topless or not, has to be a scam homie, XD
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                                                            • I am the one
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-29-13
                                                              • 503

                                                              #65
                                                              I've made thousands playing BJ at 5 dimes it's legit for a while then they'll clean house and u won't get any cards u just have to know when to get out
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                                                              • captrobey
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-02-10
                                                                • 34395

                                                                #66
                                                                I had the Virtual casino closed at one place. I tried a newer book recently and noticed their Live casino was getting insane hands just like another does. Turns out both SBs use the same Live dealer.
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