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  • supergo523
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    • 09-29-10
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    #1
    What is a Square play?
    i know this is a dumb question, but could someone please tell me what is a Square play and why is it called so? Thanks.
  • JosephPavs
    SBR MVP
    • 07-29-10
    • 1660

    #2
    Not sure I circle plays
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    • angtank
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      • 08-08-09
      • 1482

      #3
      I'm sure everybody has there own definition but my is "Square play - A side that looks to good to be true. Like the Pats -3.5 vs the Browns yesterday.
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      • BettingWizard
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-28-09
        • 6522

        #4
        the side a recreational bettor would pick
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        • kcDdegenerate
          SBR MVP
          • 12-07-09
          • 3157

          #5
          No such thing as a square or sharp bet...But the kids like to call Pats and Jets - pts yesterday as square bets because alot of people thought it was a no brainer (and both lost)...People playing Lions and Browns + pts were sharps (won) but I call them lucky and ballsy...The best play for those 2 games was no plays imo..
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          • BlindWeasel
            SBR Hustler
            • 05-31-10
            • 62

            #6
            I think it's more like the opposite of the sharp play. Square plays are the bad plays that take into account only the most obvious information and really don't include any real insight.

            Many on here would say it's basically just what ESPN would have you believe on any given day.
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            • D3 Mighty Ducks
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-17-09
              • 11939

              #7
              Originally posted by angtank
              I'm sure everybody has there own definition but my is "Square play - A side that looks to good to be true. Like the Pats -3.5 vs the Browns yesterday.
              Stop bringing up that game.
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              • angtank
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                • 08-08-09
                • 1482

                #8
                Originally posted by kcDdegenerate
                No such thing as a square or sharp bet...But the kids like to call Pats and Jets - pts yesterday as square bets because alot of people thought it was a no brainer (and both lost)...People playing Lions and Browns + pts were sharps (won) but I call them lucky and ballsy...The best play for those 2 games was no plays imo..

                You have alot to learn.
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                • angtank
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                  • 08-08-09
                  • 1482

                  #9
                  Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                  Stop bringing up that game.

                  See people don't see it but the bad teams of last year have improved alot. (Lions, Browns, Rams and Bucs) Teams aren't going to walk all over them anymore. Doesn't mean they will cover every week but in good spots they will. Browns were at home playing very good D against maybe the most overrated team in the league. It went exactly as I thought it would.
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                  • angtank
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                    • 08-08-09
                    • 1482

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BlindWeasel
                    I think it's more like the opposite of the sharp play. Square plays are the bad plays that take into account only the most obvious information and really don't include any real insight.

                    Many on here would say it's basically just what ESPN would have you believe on any given day.

                    I like your definition.
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                    • Glitch
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-08-09
                      • 11795

                      #11
                      Originally posted by supergo523
                      i know this is a dumb question, but could someone please tell me what is a Square play and why is it called so? Thanks.
                      one that is so "obvious" that any dink off the streets would think the same way. there is a belief that the integrity of sports is not all on the up-and-up. so there are non-obvious determining factors as well as funny-business that can help "vegas" make money off a lot of suckers who trust that games should go as they should. when you bet like that- you are more susceptible to a fix. and you forget to account for some other things also.

                      theres a saying that "vegas is not stupid" when you see such a gift line, historically, there is a reason for it...and it is often bad news even though it looks so obviously like the pick.
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                      • iQon
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-08-10
                        • 1483

                        #12
                        No such thing as a square. Their plays hit and miss just as much as the "sharp" ones. Sharps lose for overanalyzing everything. Play what you like and ignore the rest.
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                        • duwork
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                          • 04-24-10
                          • 382

                          #13
                          Square plays are what people make when they fade me

                          LOL..
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                          • falconticket
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                            • 09-05-10
                            • 3414

                            #14
                            I use convex polygon analysis. U get one extra angle on the game. Works good. Hoping to graduate to trapezoidal worksheets soon.
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                            • duwork
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                              • 04-24-10
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                              #15
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                              • kcDdegenerate
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                                • 12-07-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by angtank
                                You have alot to learn.

                                I have alot to learn? lol

                                Because I dont believe in square or sharp bets,just losers and winners?

                                Or because as much as I wanted to play Browns and Lions,I laid off because i refuse to put my $ on shit teams?
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                                • angtank
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                                  • 08-08-09
                                  • 1482

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by kcDdegenerate
                                  I have alot to learn? lol

                                  Because I dont believe in square or sharp bets,just losers and winners?

                                  Or because as much as I wanted to play Browns and Lions,I laid off because i refuse to put my $ on shit teams?

                                  Like I said you have alot to learn. Cuz if you have been watching the NFL this year you would not say the Browns and Lions are shit teams. Lions have been in ever game this year. They are 7-1 against the spread. But you wouldn't want to put your money on shit teams.
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                                  • vboyt
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-18-09
                                    • 357

                                    #18
                                    you are such a square!
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                                    • kcDdegenerate
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-07-09
                                      • 3157

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by angtank
                                      Like I said you have alot to learn. Cuz if you have been watching the NFL this year you would not say the Browns and Lions are shit teams. Lions have been in ever game this year. They are 7-1 against the spread. But you wouldn't want to put your money on shit teams.

                                      yep,I have not been watching the NFL....33-19 -3 YTD was all coin flipping
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                                      • ManBearPig
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                                        • 12-04-08
                                        • 2473

                                        #20
                                        If you're betting the Dallas Cowboys still...yur probably considered "square"
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                                        • Masu485
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-14-08
                                          • 7700

                                          #21
                                          I don't believe in sharp or square plays either. or if they exist, the labeling is irrelevant anyway. sure it feels good to be on a winning side that no one else is on, it makes you feel superior to everyone and that ur in the top 10%, but it's still just 1 win. the next game, the 'square play' will just easily win and so on.

                                          dumbasses who just say in a retarded voice 'duuuuuuhhh, uhhhh, team A will win because they are better', will still win the same amount of money as the guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone and finds obscure information to justify taking the dogs
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                                          • gryfyn1
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-30-10
                                            • 3285

                                            #22
                                            'Square plays' are the obvious picks based on superficial information disregardful of more detailed analysis.

                                            Take for instance the Pats/Cleveland game (sorry to pick old wounds); but superficially any one looking at that would say --

                                            'wow Pats are 6-1 and a championship 'rep', and Cleveland is 2-5 and has been lousy the last few years. and i can get the Pats only -4, sign me up!'

                                            Looking further though the Pats have played all close games (except the fluky miami game, 3 special team TDs is fluky); and the Browns have been in all close game despite playing a very tough schedule. It isnt to say anyone would have thought the Browns would win by 20 points, but no one should be shocked they covered.

                                            This isn't to say that 'square' plays are losers, they win just fine. And many times the 'square' play is the right play
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                                            • bonduforlife
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                                              • 08-21-10
                                              • 1222

                                              #23
                                              Its like taking the team that should win, the obvious pick without doing any research. I workout at a lottery store and I see many young guys walk in and put down $40 dollars on all the favourites (Canadian "ou") in a 4 team parlay. If you are just getting started then i would recommend you never make picks on just any game. Pick your spots, Vegas isn't perfect. They do make mistakes
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                                              • angtank
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                                                • 08-08-09
                                                • 1482

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kcDdegenerate
                                                yep,I have not been watching the NFL....33-19 -3 YTD was all coin flipping

                                                Again you prove my point that you don't know what you are talking about. 55 games is nothing. Come back and talk to me after 1000 plays and we will see.
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                                                • kcDdegenerate
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-07-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by angtank
                                                  Again you prove my point that you don't know what you are talking about. 55 games is nothing. Come back and talk to me after 1000 plays and we will see.


                                                  You're right 55 game is nothing....I will be here after 1000 games...You got a thread going?I would love to read your mastery of the NFL...Just to remind you,this conversation started when you said i got alot to learn because i refuse to put my money on Lions or Browns lol.....I also dont see anywhere on my thread that I ONCE bet against the Lions or the Browns....I guess I have been watching the NFL after all.....JUST NOT WILLING TO PUT MY MONEY ON THEM...MY CHOICE
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                                                  • angtank
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                                                    • 08-08-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by kcDdegenerate
                                                    You're right 55 game is nothing....I will be here after 1000 games...You got a thread going?I would love to read your mastery of the NFL...Just to remind you,this conversation started when you said i got alot to learn because i refuse to put my money on Lions or Browns lol.....I also dont see anywhere on my thread that I ONCE bet against the Lions or the Browns....I guess I have been watching the NFL after all.....JUST NOT WILLING TO PUT MY MONEY ON THEM...MY CHOICE

                                                    I do and your doing better than me this season. I have been alot better in College but I watch a ton of football.


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                                                    • kcDdegenerate
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                                                      • 12-07-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by angtank
                                                      I do and your doing better than me this season. I have been alot better in College but I watch a ton of football.


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                                                      Its all good dude....Wasnt trying to get negative with the discussion....I just didnt understand why you had to say I had alot to learn when all i did was respond to the original poster....Im stubborn with my NFL ,but I will definitely check your CFB
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                                                      • angtank
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                                                        • 08-08-09
                                                        • 1482

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by kcDdegenerate
                                                        Its all good dude....Wasnt trying to get negative with the discussion....I just didnt understand why you had to say I had alot to learn when all i did was respond to the original poster....Im stubborn with my NFL ,but I will definitely check your CFB

                                                        I just said that cuz I really believe there is a sharp and square side more so in football than any other sport. Doesn't mean the sharp side always wins. Good luck the rest of the way......
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                                                        • kcDdegenerate
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-07-09
                                                          • 3157

                                                          #29
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                                                          • Slate
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                                                            • 12-28-08
                                                            • 1021

                                                            #30
                                                            This is a square thread

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                                                            • ssk13809
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-25-10
                                                              • 2595

                                                              #31
                                                              There are no such things as square or sharp plays. Just winning and losing plays.


                                                              You all will learn that someday.
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                                                              • k13
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-16-10
                                                                • 18104

                                                                #32
                                                                Yesterday :

                                                                Squares = NE, NYJ, NO, Colts, etc.

                                                                Next week :

                                                                Squares = Hou, Ten, Min, NYJ, KC, NYG, PHI, Stl (rare case squares on the dog, automatic Niners win)
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                                                                • k13
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                                  • 18104

                                                                  #33
                                                                  You have to differentiate a square play and a square play that turned sharp.

                                                                  Like tonight with the Steelers. Sharps pounded the Steelers early and moved the line, squares took the shitty line after.
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                                                                  • BetWeather
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 06-30-10
                                                                    • 796

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Squares...

                                                                    Non professional losers... who usually win (just like favorites do) by betting the favorites.
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                                                                    • BetWeather
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 06-30-10
                                                                      • 796

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                                      There are no such things as square or sharp plays. Just winning and losing plays.


                                                                      You all will learn that someday.
                                                                      Correct Answer...
                                                                      Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner !
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