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  • BetterBizness
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    • 05-20-06
    • 5737

    #421
    Thank you Steam so far... whoever you may be...
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    • infamousbacardi
      SBR MVP
      • 03-16-08
      • 4556

      #422
      Originally posted by BetterBizness
      You realize alot of guys here are doing pretty good right? Just give it a chance... or not...
      Just dabbled and got blown for a quick $150. No biggie, but certainly a souring taste on what I saw...I mean...it certainly seems you had it right in your pick, this is an EASY BC ML victory. It just is odd the whole "all or nothing" aspect of the lines. Neither of these two spreads were correct within 20 points hardly!! Crazy.
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      • Marigold HD
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        • 09-03-07
        • 5053

        #423
        Unfcuing real..........wtf bc
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        • Marigold HD
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          • 09-03-07
          • 5053

          #424
          Wally Bono should be shot in the fcukning face !!!!
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          • Marigold HD
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            • 09-03-07
            • 5053

            #425
            Casey Printers should be shot in the ******* face
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            • haserfauld
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-12-08
              • 957

              #426
              lol. good lord.
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              • Marigold HD
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                • 09-03-07
                • 5053

                #427
                This is the worse kind of loss anyone could indure
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                • Marigold HD
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                  • 09-03-07
                  • 5053

                  #428
                  24 point lead.......15 straight things that could have went wrong, went wrong.....WTF
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                  • Marigold HD
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                    • 09-03-07
                    • 5053

                    #429
                    Half the guys on here thought that they won in the 3rd quarter, they probably left and when they check their accounts.....they're in for a surprise.....WTF
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                    • Gee
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-08-10
                      • 4547

                      #430
                      wow. just found this thread, beacuse i had a bet ATS on CFL overnight for the first time. 2/2 - beginners luck i reckon.

                      unlucky on the BC game. i can't believe that happened at the end there, then in OT. I'd completely given up on it.
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                      • SlikToxik
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 04-26-10
                        • 214

                        #431
                        Originally posted by infamousbacardi
                        Just dabbled and got blown for a quick $150. No biggie, but certainly a souring taste on what I saw...I mean...it certainly seems you had it right in your pick, this is an EASY BC ML victory. It just is odd the whole "all or nothing" aspect of the lines. Neither of these two spreads were correct within 20 points hardly!! Crazy.
                        welcome to the CFL lol... just near the end ML win for BC was bagged, and ready to take... then you see this... tough loss... crazy league and rules.
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                        • Marigold HD
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                          • 09-03-07
                          • 5053

                          #432
                          Casey Printers....OMG

                          I'm in serious fcukng shock....lol
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                          • BetterBizness
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-20-06
                            • 5737

                            #433
                            I saw it.. I needed to breath... among other things...

                            I don't know WTF to tell you... I can't remember the last time I took a loss so unbelievably bad... 21, or 24 points? I can't remember... I'm still fn shocked... see you bankroll...
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                            • BetterBizness
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                              • 05-20-06
                              • 5737

                              #434
                              now we know why Printers is on the bench... Had idiot started Gyles this game would have been Winnipeg by 20 to start... and I probably would have bet them.. instead the moron who's season on the line plays a punk who goes 4/17, and gets bailed out for the idiot move... WP LaPolice... you fn donkey...
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                              • BetterBizness
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                                • 05-20-06
                                • 5737

                                #435
                                Updated Scorecard - Week 15

                                Tor @ Sask = +5.3 Units
                                Edm @ Ham = +5.2 Units
                                Calgary @ Mon = -2.9 Units
                                BC @ Win = -7 Units

                                Net = +0.6 Units

                                Overall Week 6-11 Total = +10.85 Units
                                Week 12 Total (-12 Units)
                                Week 13 Total (+0 Units)
                                Week 14 Total (+14.1 Units)
                                Week 15 Total (+0.6 Units)

                                Overall Week 6-15 Total = +13.55 Units

                                Shouldn't have tried to hit the home run in BC... BC shouldn't have lost... The Cap was right... The Steam was right... Tough one boys... Hard to lose games like that up 3 TD with less than a Quarter to play...
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                                • BetterBizness
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                                  • 05-20-06
                                  • 5737

                                  #436
                                  Originally posted by SlikToxik
                                  welcome to the CFL lol... just near the end ML win for BC was bagged, and ready to take... then you see this... tough loss... crazy league and rules.
                                  It's not the league.. It's greed trying to cap a donkey game... When was the last time you put a major wager on St. Louis and Cleveland in week 9 when they are both 1-8 ... The fact is there are 4 games a week, and the CFL is an action league.. you just have to adjust to the action... THe under in the first half was still for the taking and we didn't take it... We KNEW both QB's would eventually get back into the game... there were alot of factors in this game that I personally should have known better of...

                                  This was a learning lesson .. I tried as hard as I could to stay away... then the steam factors among other things started to kick in and I went to town... as did we all... Looked way to good.. It was...
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                                  • Gee
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-08-10
                                    • 4547

                                    #437
                                    betterbiz: hope you weren't on the vikes today as well... if you were, those two losses would be enough to make me want to quit gambling.

                                    i won both of them and am sitting here wondering how the hell i am up money for the day and thinking i really should be down about a nickel.

                                    ps. i know f. all about CFL and made my bet purely on the line movement... maybe i got in before the steam, but i thought the bookies were indicating winnipeg were the play (about 6 hours before kick off is when i placed my bet).
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                                    • tension
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 08-11-10
                                      • 192

                                      #438
                                      FML fvcking Calgary and Fvck ou BC
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                                      • Marigold HD
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                                        • 09-03-07
                                        • 5053

                                        #439
                                        Originally posted by Gee
                                        betterbiz: hope you weren't on the vikes today as well... if you were, those two losses would be enough to make me want to quit gambling.

                                        i won both of them and am sitting here wondering how the hell i am up money for the day and thinking i really should be down about a nickel.

                                        ps. i know f. all about CFL and made my bet purely on the line movement... maybe i got in before the steam, but i thought the bookies were indicating winnipeg were the play (about 6 hours before kick off is when i placed my bet).

                                        Guess what....I was on the Vikings as well and lost $17,000.....Worst day of my life.

                                        Yes, I need a break from gambling....So Fcuked up right now it's not funny.

                                        Unreal

                                        Fcuk you Farve and Printers
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                                        • BetterBizness
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-20-06
                                          • 5737

                                          #440
                                          Wow gold.. that's a tough beat man... I know all about tough days from my poker playing as well...I used to play some extremely big games that have since dried up mostly.... thankfully.. I can't take the swings no more...

                                          I had tossed over a dime on that BC game myself, right after I thought I'd save myself in the calgary 2nd half, down 26.. and getting +1... clicking... then having to take it at +0.5 ... Calgary loses by 27!

                                          So I just tilted it on a game that you see in my write up, didn't mean ANYTHING to me... and in Fact.. It went EXACTLY how I thought it would.. Unpredictable, starters pulled... messed up first half.. .sloppy... Worse yet... after the way we lost, I endured one more viewing of the 4th quarter to see if I was dreaming ... Fn sadist! Nope it was real!

                                          The theme though of the last few posts of Silk, and Gee and yourself is valid, taking a big fn break, or just being able to clear my head... I was going to put something good on the Jets actually... but I was SO steamed, I chose to avoid it.. Of course they come through.. But it's funny, I don't consider missing a game that I would have won, nearly as bad as Capping a game correctly, but having the outcome bad... In the end, I chose to not even watch any of the game, and watched reruns of M*A*S*H all night on the history channel... I only found out the score this morning.. I think I just added another 3 years to my life after how that game ended in reading the recap...

                                          Anyhow.. We will all will reboot, and reload... Will come back strong... Was a tough week... lets just keep it at that...

                                          Thank you guys as well anyhow for making this thread pop a little bit more this week, and getting a few posts in... Always nice to see an active thread of opinions and in game commentary, good and bad...
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                                          • AndyCapper
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 08-12-10
                                            • 113

                                            #441
                                            Printers released by the Lions today
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                                            • BetterBizness
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                                              • 05-20-06
                                              • 5737

                                              #442
                                              Good call cap.. Looks like



                                              has the bulk of it...

                                              Before we address the issue of the day, you should know the decision to release Casey Printers has the potential to cause a huge rift in the B.C. Lions' dressing room.

                                              Yes, it's that serious, because when you talk to Lions players it seems they are divided into two camps — those who think Printers should have been released immediately after Monday's shocking loss to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and those who think he should have been released a month ago.

                                              "I was lucky enough to play with Dave Dickenson here and I'd never dream of something like that happening with him," said Leos centre Angus Reid. "He was our leader. Leaders shoulder blame. Leaders shoulder problems. Leaders protect everyone else around them.

                                              "[Public spats] happen to people but it should never happen to your top guy and when it does you've got to go, 'We can't have this guy as our top guy anymore.'"

                                              Evidently that was not a minority opinion on the issue of Printers.

                                              One Lion veteran was asked when the quarterback had lost the locker-room.

                                              "He never had it in the first place," was the terse reply.

                                              Oh.
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                                              • BetterBizness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-20-06
                                                • 5737

                                                #443
                                                Early Lines

                                                Friday
                                                Hamilton -1.5 @ Toronto O/U 48.5

                                                Saturday
                                                Edmonton @ BC -4.5 O/U 52

                                                Sunday
                                                Winnipeg @ Montreal -11 O/U 57.5

                                                Calgary @ Saskatchewan -1.5 O/U 58
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                                                • BetterBizness
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 05-20-06
                                                  • 5737

                                                  #444
                                                  I'm already putting 2 Units on a 2team - 6 point Teaser at 1:1

                                                  2 Units - Toronto (+7.5) + Calgary (+7.5)
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                                                  • BetterBizness
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 05-20-06
                                                    • 5737

                                                    #445
                                                    Final 4 Weeks

                                                    First the Standings...

                                                    Calgary 14 10 4 0 20 471 341 6 - 1 - 0 4 - 3 - 0 6 - 2 - 0 L1
                                                    Sask 14 9 5 0 18 399 369 6 - 1 - 0 3 - 4 - 0 4 - 2 - 0 L1
                                                    BC 14 5 9 0 10 356 366 2 - 5 - 0 3 - 4 - 0 2 - 5 - 0 L1
                                                    Edmonton 14 4 10 0 8 273 449 3 - 4 - 0 1 - 6 - 0 2 - 5 - 0 L1

                                                    East Division


                                                    Montreal 14 10 4 0 20 455 356 6 - 1 - 0 4 - 3 - 0 5 - 1 - 0 W1
                                                    Hamilton 14 7 7 0 14 366 366 4 - 3 - 0 3 - 4 - 0 5 - 3 - 0 W1
                                                    Toronto 14 7 7 0 14 283 363 4 - 3 - 0 3 - 4 - 0 3 - 3 - 0 W1
                                                    Winnipeg 14 4 10 0 8 392 385 4 - 3 - 0 0 - 7 - 0 1 - 7 - 0 W1

                                                    As far as the final playoff spot..

                                                    Both as a fan, and a capper of the Eskimos, it will be hard to convince me that BC will get there.. Some may say with Printers gone it will be better ... But with Lulay being Lulay... I am not convinced... I'm not sure how much stock you should invest in the Eskimos... But here's how I see this play out...

                                                    Eskimos have 4 games left, 2 vs Sask, 1 BC, and 1 Winnipeg... If they ONLY beat BC and Winnipeg... The likelihood that they make it is good... because then they have the Tiebreaker in Both...

                                                    Winnipeg
                                                    Has every top team to play.. Sask, Cal, Mon, and Toronto... AND they have to have MORE wins then BC and/or Edmonton.. .

                                                    BC -

                                                    Edm, Calgary, Sask, Hamilton - All very losable games... But really, all they have to do is beat Edmonton, and most of their troubles go away being up 2 games with just 3 to play.. .Winnipeg would then have to win out, and BC would have to lose out...


                                                    For top Spot in the West...

                                                    This game is the big game of separation and tie breaking... Calgary beats Sask, they are 2 games up with BC and Hamilton IN Calgary the next 2 weeks... Pretty much only a complete melt down will cost them 1st if they win this week...

                                                    However... If the RIDERS win this week... they are Tied, WITH the head to head tiebreaker... And play Edmonton Twice... If the Esks lose this week in BC, Sask Rolls in those games with Edmonton not having much to play for... But then again... Esks have played Sask tough over the year...

                                                    Interesting to see Toronto Chasing Second...

                                                    If they beat Hamilton at home, they have Winnipeg next week.. although they already DON'T have the tie-breaker... Hamilton though, will be in tough if they lose as they are Hosting Montreal next week, and IN Calgary the week after... If they win they will likely hang on to second... if they lose... It will be tough..
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                                                    • BetterBizness
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                                                      • 05-20-06
                                                      • 5737

                                                      #446
                                                      Let me also add...that If BC makes it... the top teams will proceed as normal... BC will NOT make any impact with Lulay in the playoff race...

                                                      HOWEVER... if Winnipeg OR Edmonton can snatch that spot... That means they have either won 2/3 of their last 4 under very pressure filled circumstances... IF either of them make it... Then EITHER of them would go to Saskatchewan (likely) and have played Sask very tough this year along with gaining momentum in the final 4 weeks... LOOK OUT... There COULD be some sort of upsets in the making...

                                                      All in all though... a Calgary / Sask West Final is still heavy favorite at 1:2 ...
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                                                      • BetterBizness
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-20-06
                                                        • 5737

                                                        #447
                                                        Hamilton -1.5 @ Toronto O/U 48.5 (7:30 EST On the NFL Network)

                                                        Hamilton Seasonal Results (Most Recent first)
                                                        Edm 11 @ Ham 36 U48.5
                                                        Ham 35 @ Edm 37 O48.5
                                                        Sask 32 @ Ham 25 O48.5
                                                        Ham 35 @ BC 31 O48.5
                                                        Mon 27 @ Ham 6 U48.5
                                                        Tor 13 @ Ham 28 U48.5
                                                        Ham 16 @ Tor 12 U48.5
                                                        Ham 39 @ Win 17 - O48.5
                                                        Win 22 @ Ham 29 - O48.5
                                                        Ham 24 @ Sask 37 - O48.5
                                                        Ham 14 @ Mon 37 - O48.5
                                                        Win 7 @ Ham 28 - U48.5
                                                        Cal 23 @ Ham 22 - U48.5
                                                        Ham 29 @ Win 49 - O48.5

                                                        Toronto Seasonal Results (Most recent first)
                                                        Tor 24 @ Sask 19 U48.5
                                                        Sask 27 @ Tor 16 U48.5
                                                        Edm 24 @ Tor 6 U48.5
                                                        Win 13 @ Tor 17 U48.5
                                                        Tor 16 @ BC 37 O48.5
                                                        Tor 13 @ Ham 28 U48.5
                                                        Ham 16 @ Tor 12 U48.5
                                                        Mon 22 @ Tor 37 - O48.5
                                                        Tor 29 @ Edm 28 - O48.5
                                                        Tor 10 @ Mon 41 - O48.5
                                                        BC 20 @ Tor 24 - U48.5
                                                        Cal 24 @ Tor 27 - O48.5
                                                        Tor 36 @ Win 34 - O48.5
                                                        Tor 16 @ Cal 30 - U48.5

                                                        I am in the Camp, as noted through week 6, that Toronto is much better team than Advertised... It's only now that people are starting to see it. Defensively this team is solid, Offensively though is where they get most of their attention focussed on... Last week you saw what the Argo's are capable of.. Walking into Mosaic field and really, blowing out the Riders who to that point were perfect on the year. that wasn't a fluke, that was the offense starting to play to their potential. Now they are at home, where they are 4-3 on the year (4-2 if you count Moncton), and playing Hamilton for 2nd place in the East...

                                                        The big thing here is that Toronto DOESN'T have the tiebreaker, losing to Hamilton twice already... so they MUST win this game to get 2nd and then next week in Winnipeg, then a home and home with Montreal to end the season... But losing today ensures them third place.

                                                        Hamilton has been playing decent, but lets really break down the last 5 games... They are 2-3, and the only wins they have are against a BC team that by rights should have Beaten them at home but for the Beginning of the end of Casey Printers and the 5 fumbles... And last week Vs Edmonton... A team that beat them the week before, and Really, the game was 20-11 going into the 4th Quarter... despite the 36-11 final...

                                                        I'm saying the line is purely WRONG... The only thing that works FOR Hamilton is that they've beaten Toronto twice... but even still, Toronto was still going through mid season growing pains... the game they lost in week 10, Lemon had 350 Yards passing, but THREE INTs... In week 8 Toronto had the game all but won up 12-3 in the 4th... But Hamilton found a way to come back in the end...

                                                        What I'm saying is that Toronto is the most underrated team in the CFL and I believe in 2-3 weeks people will be reminded of this... As will the Bookmakers...

                                                        Until then... We take advantage of knowing what is already known.. .

                                                        Toronto is going to win this football game... and in Style... But I'm not weighing in heavy on the low number, as Toronto has burned me quite a bit in totals this year... But I think 35-14 as a minimum isn't unreasonable...

                                                        2 Units Toronto +1.5
                                                        1 Unit Over 48.5
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                                                        • xraygord
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-18-09
                                                          • 2599

                                                          #448
                                                          GL Biz, I'm on the Argos as well, got them at +1 though.
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                                                          • tension
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-11-10
                                                            • 192

                                                            #449
                                                            Nice to see we are all on Toronto this week Go Argos!
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                                                            • tension
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 08-11-10
                                                              • 192

                                                              #450
                                                              not really a good start for the overs
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                                                              • BetterBizness
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 05-20-06
                                                                • 5737

                                                                #451
                                                                ok 10-3 after Q1.. But bittersweet... Boyd looks out with a Sprained ankle.. Not going to help TO backers.. may help the over with the passing game though...
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                                                                • BetterBizness
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-20-06
                                                                  • 5737

                                                                  #452
                                                                  Tough one gentlemen and ladies... This one wasn't even close.. one of the few I called that didn't have a chance.. I did lay low on it however... Tomorrow lean is Eskimos... Tail or Fade...
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                                                                  • latinrus
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-01-10
                                                                    • 11188

                                                                    #453
                                                                    Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                                                    Tough one gentlemen and ladies... This one wasn't even close.. one of the few I called that didn't have a chance.. I did lay low on it however... Tomorrow lean is Eskimos... Tail or Fade...
                                                                    Good luck tomorrow BB! U've been doing well! I know u r good in CFL!

                                                                    Fvck I red the thread and found again the fvcking name I had nightmares over a week. Bret Favre What an unbelievable sh*t!

                                                                    Anyway today I got some of that back with the Yankees unbelievable comeback! Feel bad cuz of Texas fan, that was tough for them!

                                                                    Anyway buddy will be cheking later for ur picks!
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                                                                    • Masu485
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-14-08
                                                                      • 7700

                                                                      #454
                                                                      Edmonton +6?

                                                                      my system says to put 3 Units on them, it'll be my biggest play of the day.
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                                                                      • BetterBizness
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 05-20-06
                                                                        • 5737

                                                                        #455
                                                                        Early Steam has taken the Hamilton -4.5 and moved it to 6... Almost looks like someone wants to middle the 5&6 the way it's moved... I'd love to get it to +6.5 if I can...

                                                                        There are alot of factors.. Motivation of playoffs, motivation of jobs, Recent success (2 of 3 wins)... Offensive line improvement...
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