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  • TheAntFather
    SBR MVP
    • 03-14-11
    • 3021

    #1891
    Wow, this came out ugly. Maybe I should have took a picture. This was from BetIslands. Sorry for blowing up your thread guys.
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    • rb3b3
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-03-10
      • 962

      #1892
      Originally posted by TheAntFather
      Ticket #: 12984009
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      NFL
      NFL
      NFL
      CFB
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      PARLAY (8 TEAMS)
      [221] TEXANS (HOU) -6½-110
      [233] PATRIOTS (NE) -3½EV
      [240] SAINTS (NO) -7-115
      [162] NORTH CAROLINA -13½-110
      [175] VIRGINIA TECH -5-110
      [181] FLORIDA STATE -3-115
      [196] STANFORD -7-110
      [1183] 1H EAST CAROLINA +½-105

      17 / 3065

      3065
      WIN
      WIN
      WIN
      WIN
      WIN
      WIN
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      WIN
      WIN

      wow fkn impressive man!!!!!! im very jealous!!!!!!! wish my downside was only 17 dollars on gtown last night to win 5k!! that wouldve saved about 5 years on my life.!! that game took an easy 5 yrs off my life!
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      • upscope
        SBR MVP
        • 04-26-11
        • 2837

        #1893
        Originally posted by grizzlies1
        Buck do you not have any worries about Iona point shaving? Especially Momo Jones. Reason I ask is I was big on them -7 against Western Mich. Like you say, they could literally run them off the court and name the score. I mean Western Mich has a 300lb white kids in specs starting for them! Iona was battering them up 21 with 6 or 7 minutes remaining and low and behold they just decided to stop playing and Momo royally screwed up at the end so they would win by 6. I decided there and then I wouldn't bet on them again this season. Too close to New York and it's too easy to get these kids to shave.

        Either way GL with the plays pal.
        LOL.....C'mon Bro, if you were to use this approach there would be no teams left to bet on. Every team get's back doored @ some point in the season. If you're not betting a game because you're afraid of them shaving you're in this for the wrong reasons. You're over thinking this way to much.
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        • YOUNGBUCK
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-16-10
          • 6510

          #1894
          Originally posted by upscope
          LOL.....C'mon Bro, if you were to use this approach there would be no teams left to bet on. Every team get's back doored @ some point in the season. If you're not betting a game because you're afraid of them shaving you're in this for the wrong reasons. You're over thinking this way to much.
          Well put UP I mean ya Canisius could cover but my mindset is that I put myself in a position to win w. The better team if I get back doored then the team didnt do their job not me
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          • Filmoz
            SBR MVP
            • 10-05-11
            • 3933

            #1895
            Yeah, plus my man Johnny Bags up in Buffalo told me that the reverse fix is in tonight. Canisius is gonna cover the whole game and then blow it at the end.
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            • grizzlies1
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-17-11
              • 726

              #1896
              Fair do's guys I'm just looking out. There's a difference between getting backdoored and shaving Upscope, the difference is not always clear but if your watching the game you can usually tell. I prefer to trust my money in teams that play hard til the buzzer. GL.
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              • 19th Hole
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-22-09
                • 18937

                #1897
                Originally posted by upscope
                LOL.....C'mon Bro, if you were to use this approach there would be no teams left to bet on. Every team get's back doored @ some point in the season. If you're not betting a game because you're afraid of them shaving you're in this for the wrong reasons. You're over thinking this way to much.

                Upscope..
                Thank you for:
                1) record keeping
                and
                2) sane response to point shaving
                Good Luck To All.
                19th Hole
                Last edited by 19th Hole; 12-02-11, 12:58 PM.
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                • Focused
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-01-11
                  • 33

                  #1898
                  Hey fellas!!! I'm loving this thread. Alot of winners, consistency and respect in here. Was wondering if anyone could explain to me or point me to a site that shows how "units" work in relation to how much you know how to bet, etc. I'm a newbie and I'm lost. Thanks in advance!!!
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                  • BroncosFN
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 05-10-11
                    • 357

                    #1899
                    Originally posted by 19th Hole
                    Upscope..
                    Thank you for:
                    1) record keeping
                    and
                    2) sane response to point shaving
                    Good Luck To All.
                    19th Hole
                    Any relation to PJ's 19th hole on Colley avenue in Virginia?
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                    • 19th Hole
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-22-09
                      • 18937

                      #1900
                      Originally posted by Focused
                      Hey fellas!!! I'm loving this thread. Alot of winners, consistency and respect in here. Was wondering if anyone could explain to me or point me to a site that shows how "units" work in relation to how much you know how to bet, etc. I'm a newbie and I'm lost. Thanks in advance!!!
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                      Ultimate Money Management System
                      Set aside a certain account exclusively for wagering....
                      In creating the ideal money management system, it became rather obvious that it would have to have a safeguard for the Wal-Mart bettors, but at the same time, not hamper the bettor who is more comfortable making two or three bets per day by having them wager too little on each game to reach maximum profits.


                      We will use 4% of our bankroll as our base figure, but then subtract .1% from our bet size for every additional wager we make after our first bet of the day. (If we wager on just one game for the day, our bet size will be 4% of our bankroll.) For example, if we are going to make five bets for the day, our bet size would be 3.6% of our bankroll (4% - .4%) and if we are going to make 11 bets on the day our wagers would become 3% of our bankroll on each play (4% - 1%).

                      It’s important to stress when using this method all of our wagers for the day will be the same size, as we only recalculate our wagering amount once per day. Using a calculator, this can be done in a matter of seconds, so that we can spend more time handicapping games or shopping for the best lines.

                      What we are essentially doing is using the half-Kelly method, but adding an element that takes the number of games bet into consideration.

                      Those who have access to an online sports book will have no problem following the method exactly as described, as online books are just as willing to accept a bet for $106.45 as they are to accept a $110 wager, while those using private bookies are likely to have to make some minor adjustments to their bet size so that it is an even amount.
                      Using this money management method doesn’t assure a sports bettor of huge riches, but it is the first step in having a profitable season.
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                      • Filmoz
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-05-11
                        • 3933

                        #1901
                        Just wanted to point out that in the Iona/WMU game, MoMo Jones got fouled and made both free throws with 26 seconds left in the game, putting Iona up 10 at that point.
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                        • Filmoz
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-05-11
                          • 3933

                          #1902
                          Originally posted by Focused
                          Hey fellas!!! I'm loving this thread. Alot of winners, consistency and respect in here. Was wondering if anyone could explain to me or point me to a site that shows how "units" work in relation to how much you know how to bet, etc. I'm a newbie and I'm lost. Thanks in advance!!!
                          A "unit" is just your betting unit, however much that may be. It is a way to standardize the plays so that anyone can make the same plays and just adjust their bets according to their units. If your unit is $100, then an 8x play would be an $800 play, but if your unit is $10, an 8x play = $80.

                          That way, instead of Buck saying he is making an $800 play, and the newbie with $100 in his account not knowing how much to bet, he says he is making an 8x play, and the newbie can tail along at a safe fraction of the amount.

                          (I don't know how much your units are Buck, just giving an example )
                          Last edited by Filmoz; 12-02-11, 01:09 PM.
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                          • 19th Hole
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-22-09
                            • 18937

                            #1903
                            Originally posted by BroncosFN
                            Any relation to PJ's 19th hole on Colley avenue in Virginia?
                            No, Avid golfer on the other end of the country.
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                            • YOUNGBUCK
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-16-10
                              • 6510

                              #1904
                              Fairfield -7 5x
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                              • Filmoz
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-05-11
                                • 3933

                                #1905
                                Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK
                                Fairfield -7 5x
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                                • rb3b3
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-03-10
                                  • 962

                                  #1906
                                  Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK
                                  Fairfield -7 5x
                                  thank god!
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                                  • sonnybaby
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-04-09
                                    • 9770

                                    #1907
                                    Georgia +1.5 5x

                                    vandy +8.5 5x
                                    LETS GET IT
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                                    • 19th Hole
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-22-09
                                      • 18937

                                      #1908
                                      Originally posted by sonnybaby
                                      Georgia +1.5 5x

                                      vandy +8.5 5x
                                      Sonny..Kill it!!
                                      Back to the funeral.
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                                      • dugdogg
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-10-10
                                        • 2708

                                        #1909
                                        SONNY/BUCK...at what point do you ever consider the ML on an underdog of less than 2 pts? why pay -110 for +1.5 or +1 when you can get the moneyline for plus money? if you win 20% more money then that would mean as long as your team doesn't lose by just 1 point 20% of the time you should come out ahead...

                                        i seriously doubt 1 in 5 games end in 1 point...it's extremely rare
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                                        • YOUNGBUCK
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-16-10
                                          • 6510

                                          #1910
                                          I bet ml's -170 or lower
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                                          • 19th Hole
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-22-09
                                            • 18937

                                            #1911
                                            [quote=YOUNGBUCK;12602767]I bet ml's -170 or lower[/quot

                                            Thanks for the info.
                                            As always...Good Luck.
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                                            • allidoiswin89
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-22-11
                                              • 915

                                              #1912
                                              Originally posted by dugdogg
                                              SONNY/BUCK...at what point do you ever consider the ML on an underdog of less than 2 pts? why pay -110 for +1.5 or +1 when you can get the moneyline for plus money? if you win 20% more money then that would mean as long as your team doesn't lose by just 1 point 20% of the time you should come out ahead...

                                              i seriously doubt 1 in 5 games end in 1 point...it's extremely rare
                                              You are looking at this wrong. It is how many games end up decided by 1 point when the line was Actually 1. That is also ignoring the fact that a line of 1 is essentially a 50/50 shot of winning. Can't type out all the math on my tablet fit now but it the end it works itself out. Plus, u ddon't think bookies never though about that before?

                                              Hope that helps. Good luck buck
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                                              • dugdogg
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-10-10
                                                • 2708

                                                #1913
                                                correct, i am referring to 1 in 5 games that are +1 or +1.5 end in 1 point. that still doesn't happen. 20% ?? come on... if a line in bball is under 2 and you are betting on the underdog, you are mathematically going to make more money in the long run by taking the moneyline at +105 or +110 instead of taking that 1 point and betting -110
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                                                • kp126
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 10-05-09
                                                  • 498

                                                  #1914
                                                  I see I wasn't the only one thinking ot going large on iona today. Placed 12units last night. Seeing way to much action on them to feel comfortable. Either way lets see a 25 point win.. crush canisius
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                                                  • dugdogg
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-10-10
                                                    • 2708

                                                    #1915
                                                    Originally posted by kp126
                                                    I see I wasn't the only one thinking ot going large on iona today. Placed 12units last night. Seeing way to much action on them to feel comfortable. Either way lets see a 25 point win.. crush canisius

                                                    so you're betting 12X your normal play on iona?? that seems like poor money management...that would be 12% of your entire bankroll on one game. a few losses like that and half your account is gone
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                                                    • milkncereal
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-01-11
                                                      • 538

                                                      #1916
                                                      ^^^ we dont know what his bankroll is. Maybe hes got 10k and a "unit" to him is 50 dollars... maybe he has a small moneyroll and has 200, but only bets a dollar a game or he has a G and an "unit" is 25. By saying 12 units he saying that its a huuuuuuuge play for him.

                                                      If your risk/reward for a a play is in your favor (at least believe so) then you need to take your shot. If your stick with 3% for all bets your going be grinding for along time...As long as your huge bets are very far apart (tough to go from 1000 bet to 100) it sometimes makes sense to let it ride.
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                                                      • kp126
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 10-05-09
                                                        • 498

                                                        #1917
                                                        Originally posted by dugdogg
                                                        so you're betting 12X your normal play on iona?? that seems like poor money management...that would be 12% of your entire bankroll on one game. a few losses like that and half your account is gone
                                                        My units are .5% and this is one of those rare larger bets. Usually don't go over 3 units per wager.
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                                                        • str8shooter68
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 11-03-11
                                                          • 36

                                                          #1918
                                                          yo fam what you guys think about sacramento+18.5 vs ok seems like an ez cover too me... Am i missing something?
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                                                          • kp126
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 10-05-09
                                                            • 498

                                                            #1919
                                                            Originally posted by dugdogg
                                                            so you're betting 12X your normal play on iona?? that seems like poor money management...that would be 12% of your entire bankroll on one game. a few losses like that and half your account is gone
                                                            My units are .5% and this is one of those rare larger bets. Usually don't go over 3 units per wager.
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                                                            • dugdogg
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-10-10
                                                              • 2708

                                                              #1920
                                                              Originally posted by str8shooter68
                                                              yo fam what you guys think about sacramento+18.5 vs ok seems like an ez cover too me... Am i missing something?
                                                              ya right man...scrote st got pounded vs cal poly...why do you think they'll cover that in OKlahoma??? fade scrote state all year they won't cover...and take ok -11 1st half
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                                                              • allidoiswin89
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-22-11
                                                                • 915

                                                                #1921
                                                                Originally posted by dugdogg
                                                                correct, i am referring to 1 in 5 games that are +1 or +1.5 end in 1 point. that still doesn't happen. 20% ?? come on... if a line in bball is under 2 and you are betting on the underdog, you are mathematically going to make more money in the long run by taking the moneyline at +105 or +110 instead of taking that 1 point and betting -110
                                                                Bet the next 5 games on the board u see like that and let us know how that works out for ya
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                                                                • blackeyeshamus
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-19-11
                                                                  • 6632

                                                                  #1922
                                                                  good luck tonight, fam.
                                                                  peep y'all at the pay window!
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                                                                  • cody4548
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                                    • 55

                                                                    #1923
                                                                    Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK
                                                                    Fairfield -7 5x
                                                                    Hey Buck is 9 too much for Fairfield to give?
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                                                                    • Focused
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 12-01-11
                                                                      • 33

                                                                      #1924
                                                                      Thanks man, I appreciate it!!
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                                                                      • blackeyeshamus
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-19-11
                                                                        • 6632

                                                                        #1925
                                                                        Originally posted by sonnybaby
                                                                        Georgia +1.5 5x

                                                                        vandy +8.5 5x
                                                                        bulldogs lookin' tough, brah.
                                                                        like 'em in 2h @ +3? thinking about it...
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