Can I even lose with this play?

[Rowdy Rolex]

Alright, I turned 18 around 8 months ago and am just getting into betting on sports.

I'm slowly but surely learning the language and how to study to find picks.

I hit my teasers tonight of
xavier (+11)
UNC(+1)
UCLA (-2)
Louisville(+7)

and
UNC(-5)
Louisville(+1)
Western Kentucky (+16)

(all teased by 10)
I'm by no means gambling what yall are, as I'm just doing this for fun...

but with the winnings and a few extra i placed a teaser for tomorrow that includes

teaser 1:
Davidson+15
Stanford+12
Villanova+22
Michigan State +14.5

teaser 2:
Kansas(-2)
Wisconsin (+5)
Texas (+8)
Memphis (+5.5)

both for the same amount to pay out the same (teased 10 each way)

This may seem incredibly stupid, as I say I am new to this... but how can this play lose?

Wouldn't it just gain alot or practically break even with only a slight loss...

Oh, and yalls input and all around here is great.
It's been alot of help so far

thanks

[OLGC_Slayer]

Davidson+15

A little risky but with the way Wisky plays I dont see a blowout. Looks pretty solid.

Welcome and best of luck to you.

[AgainstAllOdds]

Looks nice but for your teaser 1 how did you get so many points added and what was your juice?

[OLGC_Slayer]

Yeah those are like 11 point teasers my man. The juice on those must be atrocious.

[dannyt76]

Welcome to the forum and good luck on your plays.

[Rowdy Rolex]

Well for one I'm betting with bodog...(I personally like the 1 dollar min bet as I start off, to learn and practice...)

10pt teasers

and no clue what you even mean by what was your juice...


oh and olgc reason i took davidson+15 is how they've been playing. They get down big and come back...
I know stephen curry is SUPPOSED to be limited tomorrow but he's been shooting with 3 guys on him...

[AgainstAllOdds]

Juice also known as vig...um what did you get it at? like -240? what are you risking to win?

[OLGC_Slayer]

Hey man thats the smartest way to learn.
You have come to the right place. I have only been here a month and learned probably more than I have in a few years.

About Davidson I think 15 points is pretty close to a lock. Wisky is not of those dominating offensive teams and if Curry stays hot it could be an outright upset.
But I'm confident in Coach Ryan and I think Wisky wins by 7-9.

Good luck with your plays Rolex.


Juice is the % of all bets taken by the book as profit..

[Rowdy Rolex]

Still don't get it

but I got 5/6 odds

Risked US$ 21.88 to win US$ 18.23
for both...
pretty much betting what I won today

[OLGC_Slayer]

Juice also known as vig...um what did you get it at? like -240? what are you risking to win?

4.5 point tease on Pinny pays 2-1. Not bad.

[Rowdy Rolex]

you can get a 5 pt tease at bodog for 2/1

[AgainstAllOdds]

its kinda hard for me to explain but juice is say -110 so if you risk $10 you will usually be trying to win 9.09....let me find a calc for you or something to better explain this.

[AgainstAllOdds]

and to answer your original question yes you can lose if if wisky doesnt cover and davidson doesnt cover...

[Rowdy Rolex]

I think I get what Juice means

but while you're at it

everyone talks about putting out __units to win __units

but a unit is what the person wants it to mean?
or is their a standard money value for a unit?

like for me a unit is 1 dollar?
but for most its 5 or 10 dollars?
am I even in the ballpark of understanding units, or how can that best be defined?

[OLGC_Slayer]

A unit is just a way to divide your roll into sections so you can use what is hopefully good money management.
For instance, this baseball season, I will play with about a 1500 dollar roll to start. I divide that into 150 units each unit is 10 dollars. I play 5 "units" a day.
Of course some of these dudes units are....thousands of dollars.

Edit: I am fibbing a bit my roll will end up being a little bigger because I keep depositing but not much. Maybe tack on another 1000 but still very small potatoes compared to most of the dudes on here. I just love baseball too much, and always make enough to take a nice vacation in November. Except for 2 years out of the last 8 when I lost units.

[13th Street]

yeah, i used bodog for about a month. I didn't like them. I'm not a big poker player and their sportsbook kinda sucks. I would suggest finding a better sportsbook when you can.

Good Luck and welcome to the forum.

[Rowdy Rolex]

so it's a way to limit you from dropping your whole bankroll on baseball season?

[AgainstAllOdds]

yea your mostly correct some say and use 5% of their bankroll as 1 unit. So if your bankroll is $1000 and you use %5 as a unit you would be betting $50 a game. 2 units on a game $100.ect ect... But everyones diffrent some increase or decrease the percentage of their unit depending on what they can stomach.

[Rowdy Rolex]

yeah, i used bodog for about a month. I didn't like them. I'm not a big poker player and their sportsbook kinda sucks. I would suggest finding a better sportsbook when you can.

Good Luck and welcome to the forum.

yeah by looking around here I kinda figured they didnt have a premier sportsbook...

and it seems like they don't put lines up until the last second

Once I get my feet wet and hopefully up my bankroll from the 100 dollar deposit that I made to a size that permits me to play with a better book, I will be able to do such.


I'm also new to this and saw bodog was good and cared to beginners... so i gave em a shot

*If anyone knows of a better book that cares to beginners, my ears are open...

[OLGC_Slayer]

so it's a way to limit you from dropping your whole bankroll on baseball season?

Some of these crazy dudes go all in on one game but if your just starting out I strongly suggest learning good money management skills. Chasing can be bad and going all in can cause.....problems.
With good unit management you can have a bad couple days and still wake up the next day with the sun shining and birds chirping because most of your roll is intact and you can come back and have a nice run. Marathon and not a sprint and all that.
Some guys might disagree with this philosophy though.

[AgainstAllOdds]

yeah by looking around here I kinda figured they didnt have a premier sportsbook...

and it seems like they don't put lines up until the last second

Once I get my feet wet and hopefully up my bankroll from the 100 dollar deposit that I made to a size that permits me to play with a better book, I will be able to do such.


I'm also new to this and saw bodog was good and cared to beginners... so i gave em a shot

*If anyone knows of a better book that cares to beginners, my ears are open...

stick with bodog for now...lines arent the best but Customer Service is good that they treat begginers well

[AgainstAllOdds]

Some of these crazy dudes go all in on one game but if your just starting out I strongly suggest learning good money management skills. Chasing can be bad and going all in can cause.....problems.
With good unit management you can have a bad couple days and still wake up the next day with the sun shining and birds chirping because most of your roll is intact and you can come back and have a nice run. Marathon and not a sprint and all that.
Some guys might disagree with this philosophy though.

totally agree

[diogee]

OLGC hit it dead on...with Money Management you can have a terrible day (couple days ago I went 2-7 ATS which would cripple a lot of people) without it crippling your bankroll. Best of luck to you.

[stingyrivers]

hoping i am understanding you're original question, but the way you lose on those bets is something like this:

texas wins by 13
Mich St wins by 6

or any combination like that....

what you have is a 20 point middle on all four games but you need the final scores to hit all four of those middles to win both bets, and if a middle is missed on a dog side and also missed on the fav side in two of the four games, both bets would lose....

it is not necessarily a bad bet, just that you are making a bet that the favs in these games likely win but not in huge blowouts.... gl with it

welcome to the forum man, good place to get your feet wet, and as i am sure you have seen, there are a lot of helpful cool cats in this place....

[Crayzee]

teasers alwyas look great initially

but in the long run they always lose

[patsfan2727]

teasers alwyas look great initially

but in the long run they always lose

Teasers are a joke, trust me, I was addicted to them for a while. They suck because of this fact: They make lines look more like a "stone cold lock" when in fact, they may be. The only problem is, for an 8 pt BBall teaser, you have to pick 3 teams, and for a 10 pt teaser you have to pick 4 teams JUST TO WIN 0.833 of your bet in winnings!

So, in other words, you have to pick the right side (ats) of 4 games, with NO upsets or NO blowouts to NOT EVEN DOUBLE UP! what a waste of money. Trust me, its MUCH easier to pick ONE side with the regular line than FOUR sides with teased lines.

[seaborneq]

Son, get out of gambling on sports before its too late, or you will end up like jjgold or some of us other degenerates.