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  • THE PROFIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-09
    • 17701

    #1
    Read if you like your money
    We've all seen in these tourneys this season a team doesn't beat another team 3 times. We have 3 games Monday that fit the scenario.

    Gonzaga beat St.Mary 80-61 on 2/11 & 89-82 on 1/14 WIN SU
    Old Dominion beat Bill&Mary 61-42 on 2/3 & 58/55 on 1/23 COVER
    Siena beat Fairfield 69-67 on 2/8 and 81-73 on 1/16 COVER

    Siena, Bill&Mary, & Fairfield will be the plays. The lines aren't out yet but that hasn't mattered so far, big dog or big fav, or -2, a team doesn't beat another conf team 3 times. It happened again today in the stony brook game. It is 8-1 in these tourneys if I'm not mistaken, Portland last night being the only one but they are a much better team with much better record than San Diego, the other ones have been evenly matched teams.

    Radford had beaten Winthrop twice and was a DD fav, got the hell beaten out of them

    Mercer had beaten ETSU twice and was a small dog on their home court for the tourney & ETSU got them

    Bradley was a good size dog & creighton had beaten them twice this season, Bradley SU

    That's just 3 off top of my head. It has happened about 5 more times this tourney season

    WHAT DID I TELL YOU
  • Wilforth
    Restricted User
    • 05-10-08
    • 16309

    #2
    Good point but 3 isn't a large sample.
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    • THE PROFIT
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-27-09
      • 17701

      #3
      Three what?
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      • Wilforth
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        • 05-10-08
        • 16309

        #4
        3 games
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        • THE PROFIT
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-27-09
          • 17701

          #5
          It's happened in every game this tourney season, about 8. I'm not saying it's 100% over the last 20 years but if you wanna take zaga,siena,OD moneyline it would be very stupid IMO
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          • stingyrivers
            SBR MVP
            • 01-15-08
            • 1240

            #6
            interesting angle as it tends to prove true in all sports, however, this thread hasnt been entirely accurate... there have been a handful of teams in conference tourneys thus far that beat the opponent for the third time.... Siena beating Rider earlier today is just one example off the top of my head... just look at all the one seeds that got to the semis... chances are the one seeds still left have beaten the teams they have gone through in the tourney for the third time
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            • Wilforth
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              • 05-10-08
              • 16309

              #7
              He's not saying it's 100%. No trend is 100% BTW. It's still good to cap each game on a case-by-case basis. The trend he's talking of works best when both teams are evenly matched.
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              • suckerforparlays
                Restricted User
                • 02-15-10
                • 4536

                #8
                add the

                Boston vs Stony Brook game tonight Stony beat them twice and Boston University came out with the W
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                • stealthyburrito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-12-09
                  • 21562

                  #9
                  interesting angle but i dont think i could pull the trigger on all three. at least one of those teams is about to lose three times to one opponent. the one i like the most though is fairfield, they've been playin some real good ball lately
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                  • THE PROFIT
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-27-09
                    • 17701

                    #10
                    I just wouldn't put them in a parlay because they're a big fav is all I'm saying. I'm taking all 3 with the points, as I assume they will all be small dogs. It's just a trend that has been money this tourney that people have overlooked. The general frame of mind is to see a team that has beat the other team by 12 points and 7 points and now they're just giving up 3, it looks easy. They get the shit beat out of 'em!
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      it has not happened every tourney game as Drake beat Siu twice during the regular season than pulled the trifecta in the MVC tourney as a small underdog...i dont wanna lay into you about this or anything brother but you did attack someone yesterday for giving inaccurate information (which is fine) but in this case your a little off as it has happened this year, not sure if this is the only case just remember this one didnt research it or anything
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                      • Heandog
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-30-09
                        • 1634

                        #12
                        yesterday Leigh beat American U for the 3rd this just for your info . Will have to take a look into this a little more if I see any others I,ll let you konw
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Heandog
                          yesterday Leigh beat American U for the 3rd this just for your info . Will have to take a look into this a little more if I see any others I,ll let you konw

                          well that makes two times it has happened if this is right, im just taking your word for it...im sure about Drake beating Siu 3 times
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            i like to see some back tested results (not that it would influence my betting much) but would be interesting to know if this is like NFL where it is more myth than fact
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                            • Heandog
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-30-09
                              • 1634

                              #15
                              the only reason I know is because i had American U yesterday took a small hit, but was a system play that was 37-10 at the time so now 37-11 OH WELL Leigh had beaten them by 11 and by 12 .But I like the way your thinking I may take a shot at them my self gotta look into it a little more , OFF to work see ya around 530 have a good day
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #16
                                this theory is springing leaks fast.....Siena has already completed the trifecta on the last two teams they beat in the tourney and expect a 3 for 3 after tonight
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  that is four three game sweeps already this year brother and i really havnt even dug into much of it yet these are just ones off the top of my head then i go check, something tells me if i dig more i may find more
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    ODU beat Towson for the 3rd time earlier in this tourney.....that is 5 that i have found this year bro, time to start looking for a different trend as this one got more holes than Swiss cheese
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                                    • Kirchner
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 10-31-09
                                      • 247

                                      #19
                                      if you like your hair you'll stay out of the racetrack
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                                      • redrum
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-13-08
                                        • 1903

                                        #20
                                        still like old d
                                        siena
                                        zags
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                                        • suckerforparlays
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 02-15-10
                                          • 4536

                                          #21
                                          I dont mind Fairfield or St. Marys but defintly on Old Dominion to win not gonna let a team that lives on the 3 beat them
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                                          • twoods215
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-10-08
                                            • 699

                                            #22
                                            ODU will win the game. I haven't seen a line yet but it will probably favor W&M. They can keep it close, but they can't beat this Monarch squad.
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                                            • wojtekp
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 12-29-09
                                              • 42

                                              #23
                                              Who cares if they are meeting for the third time this year.....
                                              It's all about who is bigger, better and stronger.
                                              You also gotta look at who is most improved who actually stands up to the top 25. Basically review their resume and you got yourself a winner.
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                                              • capri5421
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 05-19-09
                                                • 1474

                                                #24
                                                Nice point, good luck with it.
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                                                • newjerseydevils
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-11-08
                                                  • 3110

                                                  #25
                                                  good luck with it
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                                                  • MStein12
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 01-15-10
                                                    • 80

                                                    #26
                                                    i like your input
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                                                    • tltaylor89
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-19-09
                                                      • 19610

                                                      #27
                                                      Journey time
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                                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                        • 71662

                                                        #28
                                                        People oughta be real careful about pegging St.Mary's tonight as an automatic play. This is the exact situation of a year ago. Gonzaga beat them twice in the regular season. St.Mary's came in off beating Portland comfortably. Gonzaga was favored by more last year at 7.5 in the championship and they raped the Gaels in the final. Not saying they will this year, but anyone putting St.Mary's as an automatic play based on the belief that a team will not beat another three times in the same season should watch out.
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                                                        • BennyFang
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-27-09
                                                          • 1412

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                          People oughta be real careful about pegging St.Mary's tonight as an automatic play. This is the exact situation of a year ago. Gonzaga beat them twice in the regular season. St.Mary's came in off beating Portland comfortably. Gonzaga was favored by more last year at 7.5 in the championship and they raped the Gaels in the final. Not saying they will this year, but anyone putting St.Mary's as an automatic play based on the belief that a team will not beat another three times in the same season should watch out.
                                                          Well put Eagles.....by the way, I tailed your IPFW pick last night....nice call!
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            seems like the shit happens every year EaglesPhan (im sure it doesnt but sure feels like it) and st marys hasnt provin to me to be any better than the other st marys teams that needed the win to get in and came up short
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                              seems like the shit happens every year EaglesPhan (im sure it doesnt but sure feels like it) and st marys hasnt provin to me to be any better than the other st marys teams that needed the win to get in and came up short
                                                              Gonzaga's not quite as good as they were a year ago, but I don't think St. Mary's is without Mills, either. In other words, new year, same result. Interested to see if Sacre can handle Samhan -- that's going to be the key matchup. Harris absolutely kills St. Mary's, too.

                                                              Might be fun to just sit back and watch.
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                                                              • Powderguy
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-18-09
                                                                • 6939

                                                                #32
                                                                The theory applied in the ETSU/Mercer and was one of the main reasons I took ETSU to win there, it seems to work more often than not that a team can't beat another 3 teams in a year, that is if they are on even talent levels.
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                                                                • ringemup
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-24-08
                                                                  • 2112

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ill give fairfield a fair shot at an upset if they come out n play like theyve been playing lately....reminds me a little bit of a young kansas squad many yrs ago with chalmers, rush n co. when they were freshmen taking down a veteran powerhouse Texas team in the BIG12 championship, the same team that would go onto win the national title a yr later. fairfield is playing with the same kind of confidence n have a few super frosh they rely on n a beast inside in anthony johnson... the only question is r they ready to overcome their lack of experience on this big stage n beat a veteran team like siena, talent-wise i kno they have the potential but i wonder if they will be ready mentally its a tough call
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The "tough to beat a team 3 times in one year" thing is a myth long-term in all sports.

                                                                    But by all means, keep playing this angle and give me some better value on Gonzaga tonight before they beat St. Mary's by double-digits again.
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                                                                    • THE PROFIT
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-27-09
                                                                      • 17701

                                                                      #35
                                                                      2 so far & 2 covers. fairfield almost pulled the upset leading most the game & going into OT! I didn't mean to cause everyonr to take up arms with this thread, just saying! Both those games were very close with the fav pulling away a little at the end but didn't cover! Hope everyone cashed with the dogs.

                                                                      St Marys layin it on zaga pretty good right now also.

                                                                      Those 3 dogs were about the biggest plays I've made all hoops season
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