PAC10 only 1 NCAA tourny bid?

[KingKolzig]

USC is ineligible, but that doesnt matter. If a darkhorse doesnt win the PAC10 tournament they might actually only get Cal into the field if Cal wins it LOL. Here are the PAC10 standings with RPI:

Cal 20-9 (21)
ASU 20-9 (53)
Wash 19-9 (56)
Zona 14-14 (89)
USC 16-12 (105)
UCLA 13-15 (133)
WSU 16-12 (141)
Ore 14-14 (152)
Stan 13-16 (167)
OSU 13-15 (180)

This is a "power" conference, not the big east of big12 but maybe on par with the big10. Amazing if they only get 1 team in

[gonnakillit]

They will only get one team in regardless.....Whoever wins the tourney is going to the NCAA's. Cal is not getting an automatic bid

[KingKolzig]

They will only get one team in regardless.....Whoever wins the tourney is going to the NCAA's. Cal is not getting an automatic bid

yes they will. RPI 21, regular season champs. Of course they will

[gonnakillit]

yes they will. RPI 21, regular season champs. Of course they will

No....they wont. Since when does being the regular season champs of a shit conference get you an automatic bid???


They don't have a single impressive win outside of conference. And outside of conference they were:

dominated by syracuse
beat up on by ohio st.
beat up on by new mexico
dominated by kansas

4 tourney teams they've played and 4 losses

Not to mention a home loss to UCLA, loss to Washington, loss to arizona, loss to usc, and loss to oregon st.

If this team gets an at large bid I might boycott the tournament. But luckily I have faith that the selection committee knows more than you

[KingKolzig]

want to know what their strength of schedule is...........10th nationally, this team is going.

[coloradobuff]

asu is so fake good its not even funny

[gonnakillit]

want to know what their strength of schedule is...........10th nationally, this team is going.

There strength of schedule being high means jack shit when they lost to every single good team they played, and in many cases were blown out of the gym. You obviously have no freaking clue what you're talking about

[KingKolzig]

There strength of schedule being high means jack shit when they lost to every single good team they played, and in many cases were blown out of the gym. You obviously have no freaking clue what you're talking about

California [20-9 (12-5), RPI: 21, SOS: 4] The Bears' overall profile might not suggest they deserve an NCAA at-large bid, but who thinks the Pac-10 regular-season champion is going to be left out of the NCAA field?

-Mark Schlabach
ESPN.com

[gonnakillit]

California [20-9 (12-5), RPI: 21, SOS: 4] The Bears' overall profile might not suggest they deserve an NCAA at-large bid, but who thinks the Pac-10 regular-season champion is going to be left out of the NCAA field?

-Mark Schlabach
ESPN.com

You're just like every other idiot in this country....just cause you read someone journalist say it means it's true????

He admits that their tourney profile is shit and they don't deserve an at large NCAA bid because of it, but thinks they might get it because they are the regular season champs. That's horrible thinking on his part as I point out once again

THE REGULAR SEASON CHAMPS OF A SHITTY CONFERENCE DONT GET AUTOMATIC BIDS FOR IT

Now if they make it to the Pac-10 title game and lose a tight matchup maybe they'll squeak in. but a lot still depends on what other bubble teams do. None of this matters anyway since Cal is going to win their shitty tournament fairly easily.

the Pac-10 tourney this is is probably the worst conference tourney taking place

[KingKolzig]

plus they went to KU, and to NM (lost by only 8). Lost to Ohio state by 6 (neutral court, turner played).........and 3 of their 5 conference losses are by 4 pts or less.

KU and Syracuse are 1 seeds, OSU is a 2 seed, and NM is a 3 seed................"beat up on by OSU and NM" LMFAO

[KingKolzig]

Bro they never had the chance to play middle of the road big12, big10 or sec teams out of conference. They happen to play all powerhouses..........i hope they lose early in the pac10 tourny cause they will still get in you moron. The odds are you are wrong, yet you stated it as fact. You are the idiot who got yourself in an argument in which you are very shorthanded

[gonnakillit]

Ohio St. was DOMINATING that game early on.

Dude lets go through your logic. You point out their overall record and their strength of schedule:

Ok well their out of conference record is 8-4. The 4 teams they played that are really good (which is why their sos is so high) is Kansas, New mexico, Ohio St. and Syracuse. Yeah all those teams are good, but when you lose EVERY SINGLE ONE of those games, and those games are the reason your SOS is so high, then your SOS means nothing.

Their out of conference wins are:

Murray St. (probably the only semi-impressive win on their resume
Detroit
Jacksonville
Princeton
Iowa St.
pacific
utah valley
UC Sana Barbara

So based on this out of conference schedule do they deserve at AT LARGE bid? No They lost to the 4 tough teams they played. unimpressed.

So lets go to their conference schedule:

They finished 12-5 (hardly impressive for such a shitty conference)
They lost to UCLA (before UCLA even started playing well)
@ Washington by 15 hahahahahahah
@ Arizona
@USC
@ Oregon St. by 14 hahahahahahahahahaha

So based on this info you should see that you're wrong.

Now if the selection committee is as enamored with meaningless statistics as you are then they might get in. But if they take a minute to look at why their SOS is so high and how they played against those teams they won't get in.

you like meaningless numbers? Well I'll tell you a number the selection comittee cares more about than SOS and that's a teams record against RPI top 50.........What's that record, statistic boy?

[KingKolzig]

ok by your logic bump their SOS to say 100 and take 4 losses away. then they are 20-5 bro. They only played powerhouses, not good teams, but elite teams. You cant point to any games vs average tournament teams, cause they didnt play any. And you can pick outliers like @Ore St and laugh but every non-elite tournament team has massive hiccups............You dont seem to understand the politics of the NCAA. The cash involved and the need to be able to market the top conferences. Im not saying they are deserving, im saying they are going. Cause they are. NCAA will jump on any chance to get them in, and the solid RPI and PAC10 title is all they need.

"Ohio state was dominating that game early on" makes you look like a total joke. What the heck does that mean, that Cal then dominated for stretches. Or that only the "early on" portion of the game should be taken into consideration

[gonnakillit]

Well you obviously can't understand that you're wrong so whatever......

they did play a average tourney team. Murray St. (the best team in the OVC) and they won by only 5 at home.

Does California have A SINGLE signature win for the selection committee to look at and give them an at large bid over say.......Illinois?

The answer is no and if you can't understand how losing to good teams doesnt make you deserving of an at large birth then you're pointless to talk to

by the way Ohio St. was up 13 at the half and up big most of the second half until in got late and Cal clawed back to make it look more respectable at the very end bu the game was never in question. So no....you've made yourself look like a fool

[KingKolzig]

You just dont understand that Cal played a very unique schedule that didn't allow them comparison against marquettes, UConns, Mississippis ect. While teams like illinois have the chance to play those games all the time. Cal will have a major void in comparison to other teams, and they will not be penalized for games they didnt have the chance to play........unfortunately for the bubble teams none of them are Pac10 champs with an RPI of 21.........its unfair to those bubble teams that Cal isnt on the bubble (politics). Im not sure if Cal dererves a bid or not, but from the payed/salaried NCAAB experts who know what they are talking about more than anyone else the consensus is that Cal is solidly in the tournament. Good Day

[gonnakillit]

You just dont understand that Cal played a very unique schedule that didn't allow them comparison against marquettes, UConns, Mississippis ect. While teams like illinois have the chance to play those games all the time. Cal will have a major void in comparison to other teams, and they will not be penalized for games they didnt have the chance to play........unfortunately for the bubble teams none of them are Pac10 champs with an RPI of 21.........its unfair to those bubble teams that Cal isnt on the bubble (politics). Im not sure if Cal dererves a bid or not, but from the payed/salaried NCAAB experts who know what they are talking about more than anyone else the consensus is that Cal is solidly in the tournament. Good Day

You're wrong....every "expert" I've heard has said they arent in the tourney. And frankly everything you are saying points to them not having the resume to be in the the tourney.

They had a chance to show they deserved it by winning one or two of the 4 marquee games they played and they lost them all. They then went on to lose 5 games in a shit conference. So they won't be in, and I really hope they lose the tourney so you can see how wrong you are

[KingKolzig]

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[PickMachine]

Cal needs to win a game in the PAC-10 Tourney and they're in. The commitee doesn't want to have to hear about it if the PAC-10 that has been a solid confernce in the NCAA Tourney over the past 10 years doesn't get there regular season champ in there. I agree Cal might not have the glamorous wins that you think you need to get in the Tourney. I know it sucks for a mid major that doesn't win there tourney to get shut out by a Cal team that may not "deserve" it on paper. But a team gets screwed every year no matter what. I'm a Huskies fan and i think Cal should be in the Tourney for sure. PS Losing at Hec-ED (huskies home floor) is not an easy task. Cal on a neutral floor can compete with alot of teams in the nation.