Why do ppl think UConn is in?

[KingKolzig]

In to the big dance? They are 17-12 and a crummy 7-9 for 11th place in the big east. Their rpi is 44, generally to have such a bad record you need an rpi top 30. I think they would have to win 3 or 4 conference tourny games to get in. Why are they penciled in by so many ppl?

[2daBank]

because most ppl are border line retarded

[KingKolzig]

because most ppl are border line retarded

seriously, ppl can't imagine that the preseason rankings arent holding form. Like texas is +750 to win the title at my book lol. Thats just a bit off Syracuse at +600. Texas is a total bust and barely a top 25 team. Syracuse has 10 times the chance to win it all compared to texas. But ppl still think cause they were #1 preseason that they are still a really strong team. Same for UConn, they are getting better but made their push too late I think. But just the other night an ESPN guy said something like "this Uconn team is not the bunch you want to see in the first weekend if you are a top seed." and he never said if they get in. I dunno maybe they will get in and be one of those teams everyone is pissed that got in cause they dont deserve it. Then they win 2 or 3 games and everyone sees why they got in

[Thatswhatshesaid]

They certainly need to win out and make some real noise next week in NYC. But if that happens they are a dangerous team to play IMO.

[2daBank]

seriously, ppl can't imagine that the preseason rankings arent holding form. Like texas is +750 to win the title at my book lol. Thats just a bit off Syracuse at +600. Texas is a total bust and barely a top 25 team. Syracuse has 10 times the chance to win it all compared to texas. But ppl still think cause they were #1 preseason that they are still a really strong team. Same for UConn, they are getting better but made their push too late I think. But just the other night an ESPN guy said something like "this Uconn team is not the bunch you want to see in the first weekend if you are a top seed." and he never said if they get in. I dunno maybe they will get in and be one of those teams everyone is pissed that got in cause they dont deserve it. Then they win 2 or 3 games and everyone sees why they got in

fuk preseason ranking fuk the current rankings.....they mean absolutely dick and imo are way the fuk off....only rankings i respect are mine and kenpom with some respect for rpi as well i guess....its all just fukkin perception and shockingly borderline retarded ppl who make the rankings and the borderline retarded ppl that take them seriously perception is way off base......borderline retarded my be to strong a word lets just say IQ wise they closer to retard than genius thats for sure

[2daBank]

They certainly need to win out and make some real noise next week in NYC. But if that happens they are a dangerous team to play IMO.

id be thrilled if my team got to play them no matter who my team was

[KingKolzig]

fuk preseason ranking fuk the current rankings.....they mean absolutely dick and imo are way the fuk off....only rankings i respect are mine and kenpom with some respect for rpi as well i guess....its all just fukkin perception and shockingly borderline retarded ppl who make the rankings and the borderline retarded ppl that take them seriously perception is way off base......borderline retarded my be to strong a word lets just say IQ wise they closer to retard than genius thats for sure

i know. perception is huge in college bball. sharps can exploit so much in this sport

[yisman]

odds are they will get in. Yes, they have struggled overall this season.

But the committee is going to have a hard time keeping out a team that has three wins over top 5 opponents.

Honestly, it would be a little ridiculous to keep them out. The committee looks for impressive wins first and foremost.

UConn blew out a 17-1 Texas team, beat a 22-2 Villanova team handily on the road, and then two games later beat a 21-5 West Virginia team by double digits.

No team in the country has three wins close to as good as that.

Assuming they beat ND or USF and then win one game in the conference tournament, they're in.

[yisman]

id be thrilled if my team got to play them no matter who my team was

Considering they're one of the most talented teams in the country and are very capable of beating anybody, I don't know why you'd be thrilled unless you're rooting for your team to lose.

[2daBank]

Considering they're one of the most talented teams in the country and are very capable of beating anybody, I don't know why you'd be thrilled unless you're rooting for your team to lose.

yea well it seems we seriously disagree about this....as there shooters are erratic there bigs are no scoring threat and the only way they score is in transition so whatever you say my team whoever it is would handle there asses real quick like....much like most the teams have that ive bet against them with

[Glitch]

theyve got a few good players plus people discount some losses in such a deep and talented conference such as the big east is this year. then when they beat these flourishing big east teams, it seems like theyve accomplished some great feat. its pretty messed up but thats how college bball works, off peoples' opinions.

[KingKolzig]

yisman do big wins cancel out embarassing losses? what about inconsistency, like losing to LOU at home 2 days ago?

[2daBank]

odds are they will get in. Yes, they have struggled overall this season.

But the committee is going to have a hard time keeping out a team that has three wins over top 5 opponents.

Honestly, it would be a little ridiculous to keep them out. The committee looks for impressive wins first and foremost.

UConn blew out a 17-1 Texas team, beat a 22-2 Villanova team handily on the road, and then two games later beat a 21-5 West Virginia team by double digits.

No team in the country has three wins close to as good as that.

Assuming they beat ND or USF and then win one game in the conference tournament, they're in.

yes and tex sense has shown there true colors,....dont care what nova is ranked id say they should be in the 10-15 range far as best teams go....WVU is not impressive to beat as they beat themselves on a regular basis......and yes 2 out of those 3 i had ucon before you judge me as just hating...with WVU being the only one i was on the wrong side

[THEGREAT30]

Because they are UConn and it holds weight no matter what the committee says, plus the Big East is extremely overrated this year, good day

[dbldown]

Last I saw, UCONN was out.

UConn - The Huskies were a home win over Louisville from really looking like a solid at-large candidate, but in true schizophrenic UConn fashion, they blew a 13-point first half lead and lost a heartbreaker to the Cardinals. The loss was damaging enough because it dropped them to 7-9 in the Big East, but for our purposes projecting ahead, it meant being removed from the bracket altogether. The Huskies have two road games this week, including a ginormous one in South Bend on Wednesday. The game is a coin-flip, but in the end we gave the edge to the resurgent Irish, who will in all likelihood have Luke Harangody back (on Senior Night) for that game. A loss to ND would probably mean an 8-10 finish for UConn, which means they would have to win at least two games in the Big East tournament to get a bid. That's too much to project right now for a team that has lost as many big games as the Huskies have this season.

[2daBank]

Last I saw, UCONN was out.

UConn - The Huskies were a home win over Louisville from really looking like a solid at-large candidate, but in true schizophrenic UConn fashion, they blew a 13-point first half lead and lost a heartbreaker to the Cardinals. The loss was damaging enough because it dropped them to 7-9 in the Big East, but for our purposes projecting ahead, it meant being removed from the bracket altogether. The Huskies have two road games this week, including a ginormous one in South Bend on Wednesday. The game is a coin-flip, but in the end we gave the edge to the resurgent Irish, who will in all likelihood have Luke Harangody back (on Senior Night) for that game. A loss to ND would probably mean an 8-10 finish for UConn, which means they would have to win at least two games in the Big East tournament to get a bid. That's too much to project right now for a team that has lost as many big games as the Huskies have this season.

[GGPLAYER]

Because they are UConn and it holds weight no matter what the committee says, plus the Big East is extremely overrated this year, good day

Huh??

[KingKolzig]

Last I saw, UCONN was out.

UConn - The Huskies were a home win over Louisville from really looking like a solid at-large candidate, but in true schizophrenic UConn fashion, they blew a 13-point first half lead and lost a heartbreaker to the Cardinals. The loss was damaging enough because it dropped them to 7-9 in the Big East, but for our purposes projecting ahead, it meant being removed from the bracket altogether. The Huskies have two road games this week, including a ginormous one in South Bend on Wednesday. The game is a coin-flip, but in the end we gave the edge to the resurgent Irish, who will in all likelihood have Luke Harangody back (on Senior Night) for that game. A loss to ND would probably mean an 8-10 finish for UConn, which means they would have to win at least two games in the Big East tournament to get a bid. That's too much to project right now for a team that has lost as many big games as the Huskies have this season.

wow i cant believe whomever wrote this article thinks that they only need to win 2 big east tourny games to get in. i figured 3. it will be interesting what the committee does with UConn. Just one of dozens of stories on selection sunday

[dbldown]

http://bracketology101.blogspot.com/

That site is usually a good read each week.. obviously it is somewhat subjective, but so is the selection committee.

[LT Profits]

Huh??

He is right, Big East is down from past years. Syracuse is only threat in tourney. The rest of the league are just good teams that take turns beating each other, but no great teams that I'd consider Elite Eight candidates.

[yisman]

yes and tex sense has shown there true colors,....dont care what nova is ranked id say they should be in the 10-15 range far as best teams go....WVU is not impressive to beat as they beat themselves on a regular basis....

once you approach it with "UConn sucks", it's pretty easy to discount all of their wins.

You don't care what Nova is ranked? Great. But look at the facts instead of basing it on your own subjective opinion.

Look at where Texas, WVU, and Villanova were ranked before UConn beat all three convincingly.

[yisman]

He is right, Big East is down from past years. Syracuse is only threat in tourney. The rest of the league are just good teams that take turns beating each other, but no great teams that I'd consider Elite Eight candidates.

All of college basketball is down from past years.

The conference that used to be in the Big East's class was the ACC, but they're decidedly weaker this season.

The Big East is down, but the other big conferences are down more.

Watch how many top three seeds the Big East winds up with. I think they'll get three (Syracuse, West Virginia, Villanova), along with several more in the 4-6 range (Georgetown, Marquette, Pittsburgh).

[LT Profits]

All of college basketball is down from past years.

The conference that used to be in the Big East's class was the ACC, but they're decidedly weaker this season.

The Big East is down, but the other big conferences are down more.

Watch how many top three seeds the Big East winds up with. I think they'll get three (Syracuse, West Virginia, Villanova), along with several more in the 4-6 range (Georgetown, Marquette, Pittsburgh).

And regardless of how many top 3 seeds the Big East gets, Syracuse will be the only team to go as far as the Elite Eight.

[LT Profits]

And for the record, I think the Big 12 is the best conference in the country right now.

[Glitch]

He is right, Big East is down from past years. Syracuse is only threat in tourney. The rest of the league are just good teams that take turns beating each other, but no great teams that I'd consider Elite Eight candidates.

wrong....in addition to the cuse- louisville, pittsburg, villanova, marquette, west virginia- all strong teams that can compete with the big 12 and that will squash all but 1 or 2 big ten teams

[2daBank]

And for the record, I think the Big 12 is the best conference in the country right now.

Finally someone who agrees with me

[yisman]

And regardless of how many top 3 seeds the Big East gets, Syracuse will be the only team to go as far as the Elite Eight.

Maybe, maybe not. I fail to see your point.

If you want to base it solely on tournament success, there's no way the Big East could match last year. Half the Elite Eight was from one conference.

[2daBank]

wrong....in addition to the cuse- louisville, pittsburg, villanova, marquette, west virginia- all strong teams that can compete with the big 12 and that will squash all but 1 or 2 big ten teams

you wouldnt see these guys winning to many road games in the big-12

[LT Profits]

wrong....in addition to the cuse- louisville, pittsburg, villanova, marquette, west virginia- all strong teams that can compete with the big 12 and that will squash all but 1 or 2 big ten teams

Sorry, none of the teams you mentioned are Elite Eight candidates in my mind. I would love to see a prop for which conference will have the most teams in the Elite Eight, because the Big 12 may get three. The givens are Kansas and Kansas State, but I think the chances of a Missouri, Baylor or Texas A&M catching fire and being the third Big 12 team in the final eight is much more realistic than any of the other Big East teams you mentioned joining Syracuse.

We shall see!

Good lick.

[Glitch]

they can go deep in the tourney and comepete with the likes of baylor and texas. kansas, k-state and kentuck may be a different story but thats not to say they're gonna get wiped out early in the tourney. as far as making it to the elite 8- thats a different story. id definitely be trimming that list down

i also am aware that the big 12 is the best conference in college ball. thats not a secret or super sharp info

[LT Profits]

Maybe, maybe not. I fail to see your point.

If you want to base it solely on tournament success, there's no way the Big East could match last year. Half the Elite Eight was from one conference.

My point is that there will be more Big 12 teams in the Elite Eight than Big East teams because the Big 12 is better.

Well that and the fact that I was agreeing with the other poster that the Big East is overrated this year.

[LT Profits]

they can go deep in the tourney and comepete with the likes of baylor and texas. kansas, k-state and kentuck may be a different story but thats not to say they're gonna get wiped out early in the tourney. as far as making it to the elite 8- thats a different story. id definitely be trimming that list down

i also am aware that the big 12 is the best conference in college ball. thats not a secret or super sharp info

Right, but many people are still saying the Big East is, hence my overrated tag.

[yisman]

Sorry, none of the teams you mentioned are Elite Eight candidates in my mind. I would love to see a prop for which conference will have the most teams in the Elite Eight, because the Big 12 may get three. The givens are Kansas and Kansas State

The givens?

They're a given to be in the Elite Eight? What line would you give me for one or both not making it?

[LT Profits]

The givens?

They're a given to be in the Elite Eight? What line would you give me for one or both not making it?

Well Kansas is the best team in the country so yes, I'd say they are a given for the Elite Eight. And I think Kansas State is the second bet team from the best conference in the country, so although not really a given, I love their chances.

[yisman]

You said they're both a given.

I'd love to bet against that.

Neither one is a given. Yes, Kansas is the best team in the country right now. However, neither they nor any other team is a given for the Elite Eight. The given is that they'll make the tournament and win their first game, because the chances of that not happening are less than .5%.