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  • strictlywinners
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    • 07-17-07
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    #1
    The 10k Experiment!!!
    This is moneymanagement system I developed for a new handicapping service, it is nothing new its your basic percentage of bankroll system. But it did so well for this service in the first month, that I figured I would start again from scratch and track for everyone to see. It is based on 5 star system, each star is worth 2% of bankroll. Then mulitply percentage times bankroll to figure out your bet. Repeat this process each day, with new bankroll at start of each day, whether it is greater or smaller. Well here goes, the goal is 5 times bankroll.

    Day 1
    5* NC Willmington +1.5 1000 Risking 1100
    4* La Lafayette +2 800 Risking 880
    2*Spurs +5.5 400 Risking 440
  • DaColts
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    • 09-07-07
    • 1185

    #2
    What time frame for your goal. Good luck
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    • strictlywinners
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      • 07-17-07
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      #3
      As long as it takes, the sample I did for this site reached 50k in 3 weeks. I don't antisipate a run like that to happen again. Conservatively I would say it should takearound 2 months if I hit 58-60%. We will just have to wait and see.
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      • Vesuvius
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        • 02-19-08
        • 3886

        #4
        Don't you think 2% per star is a lot? 10% on 1 game?

        Yes, if you are hot you will win a lot but if you get cold it could get really bad really quickly.

        I like the 5 star system but rather 0.5% - 1% per star.
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        • strictlywinners
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          • 07-17-07
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          #5
          True, this may be aggressive more some peoples taste, but when applied to picks I've been making it has worked so I don't want to mess with it. For those with bigger rolls, 50k plus that want to assume less risk for smaller returns, I have other plans.
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          • AKATDOG
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            • 10-31-09
            • 314

            #6
            good luck
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            • Power Play
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              • 02-01-10
              • 1224

              #7
              i didn't have time to take wilmington today but i liked them a lot. I like the lafeyette pick/ pass on the spurs pick. good luck i think you should be fine
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              • strictlywinners
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                • 07-17-07
                • 3377

                #8
                Originally posted by strictlywinners
                This is moneymanagement system I developed for a new handicapping service, it is nothing new its your basic percentage of bankroll system. But it did so well for this service in the first month, that I figured I would start again from scratch and track for everyone to see. It is based on 5 star system, each star is worth 2% of bankroll. Then mulitply percentage times bankroll to figure out your bet. Repeat this process each day, with new bankroll at start of each day, whether it is greater or smaller. Well here goes, the goal is 5 times bankroll.

                Day 1
                5* NC Willmington +1.5 1000 Risking 1100 W
                4* La Lafayette +2 800 Risking 880 L
                2*Spurs +5.5 400 Risking 440
                W

                New Bankroll 10520
                Day 2
                5* Niagara +4 1052 Risking 1157
                3* WVU -2.5 631 Risking 694
                2* Eastern Wash.+2.5 420 Risking 462
                1* Rider -1 210 Risking 231
                1* Idaho State +4 210 Risking 231

                I have spread sheet I will be loading soon which will make it easier to track and it will also tell you ROI, for each day, and percent increase or decrease to bankroll each day.
                YTD 2-1
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                • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                  • 11-11-09
                  • 4983

                  #9
                  You're really putting all that money on Niagara?
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                  • strictlywinners
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                    • 07-17-07
                    • 3377

                    #10
                    Well Imxth3 I'm that isn't much money at all, I'm actually a retard though and not very discplined, I get up and end up putting 5k 10k 15k on games like its nothing. That is my own stupidity though. This thread, is something I came up with that if I stuck to, it would give me a nice profit if I could only be more patient. This is hypothetical 10k, I'm trying my best not to gamble for a month. This thread is a do as I say not as I do kind of thing. Because if you gamble like I usually do, going huge when you get up, you really can't win.
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                    • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                      • 11-11-09
                      • 4983

                      #11
                      Makes sense I guess. So you don't really have $1,157 down on Niagara?
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                      • strictlywinners
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                        • 07-17-07
                        • 3377

                        #12
                        I'm not gambling for atleast a month. If i was to be taking it, I would probably have Niagara for 4k plus. Like I said I'm stupid though.
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                        • strictlywinners
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                          • 07-17-07
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                          #13
                          Look up some of my NBA threads from last year, it was begining of NBA last year end of football I was smoking HOT! Had no less then 5k on any game, it was quite a run. People in year were making me take screen shots, it was pretty funny.
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                          • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                            • 11-11-09
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                            #14
                            Lol resisting gambling is very difficult dude. Been there, done that. I would have been up alot today had I not got cocky and then the fukkers in the Denver game screwed me over in late action in the NBA. I can relate to betting games recklessly not using proper money management, it's just that urge to win..
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                            • strictlywinners
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                              • 07-17-07
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                              #15
                              Exactly its all part of psychology of gambling, when you win you get that high, the high makes you anxious. I understand it quite well. Been there and done that with oh so much money, 30k on a game, I can't afford that, yet i've done it numerous times cause I was up that much. It is a dumb dumb thing to do. I guess you could say I'm good advisor and terrible gambler. It is my vice, I know this. thats why I just want to advice others the right way to do it, learn from my terrible terrible, constantly repeated mistakes.
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                              • blix177
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                                • 09-20-08
                                • 1520

                                #16
                                2% per star is way to high. I suggest .5% or at max 1%.
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                                • strictlywinners
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                                  • 07-17-07
                                  • 3377

                                  #17
                                  Yes I do understand that this is high for peoples taste, but I have tested in past and it actually works quite efficiently. With starting bankrolls of 50k and up I would be on 1% system. And I am actually helping two friends with very small rolls of less then 500 on 4% a star, they have done it for the last 3 weeks and our now just over 2k a piece. I've now backed them off to less aggressive percentage. It all depends on your taste for volatility and how aggressive you want to be. To each is own.
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                                  • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                                    • 11-11-09
                                    • 4983

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by strictlywinners
                                    Exactly its all part of psychology of gambling, when you win you get that high, the high makes you anxious. I understand it quite well. Been there and done that with oh so much money, 30k on a game, I can't afford that, yet i've done it numerous times cause I was up that much. It is a dumb dumb thing to do. I guess you could say I'm good advisor and terrible gambler. It is my vice, I know this. thats why I just want to advice others the right way to do it, learn from my terrible terrible, constantly repeated mistakes.
                                    I would never bet that much on 1 game but I do bet pretty large but in my own definition of what large really is. It's definitly the high though, and once you start riding the win streak and going up alot, you become more careless placing reckless bets that you would not have placed in the beginning. I understand it all, I fukkin did the same shit with Denver tonight in the NBA, i'm still so pissed about that game. Just for the fuk of it, I tailed your Niagara play. All I know is if I stuck with my original bets I would have been up units today but instead i'm down alot because of my own "high" to place bets on games I never should have bet in the first place.
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                                    • strictlywinners
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                                      • 07-17-07
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                                      #19
                                      I feel you dude, what happens is your perception of money gets distorted. I really should write a book hahahahahah. But track the thread see what it produces at end of month. if it is successful then maybe its time, to wait until you have like 5k to invest, or set amount of any comfort and try something like this. I'm to big of an addict to do it, but maybe there is still hope for you. 5k into 25k in 1 month wouldn't be to shabby you know.
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                                      • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                                        • 11-11-09
                                        • 4983

                                        #20
                                        That would be real nice but I'd prolly would make my withdrawals very early to prevent myself from throwin all that $$ away by betting games so quickly and recklessly. One thing I cannot stand is playin from behind though...I always got this fixation that I need to at least match or be up in units whatever I started the day with. Shit has me so pissed off cuz like I said I'm down a shitload today. I'm thinking of maybe just doing a 3 team parlay to try nd get it back quickly
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                                        • Vesuvius
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                                          • 02-19-08
                                          • 3886

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by strictlywinners
                                          W

                                          New Bankroll 10520
                                          Day 2
                                          5* Niagara +4 1052 Risking 1157
                                          3* WVU -2.5 631 Risking 694
                                          2* Eastern Wash.+2.5 420 Risking 462
                                          1* Rider -1 210 Risking 231
                                          1* Idaho State +4 210 Risking 231

                                          I have spread sheet I will be loading soon which will make it easier to track and it will also tell you ROI, for each day, and percent increase or decrease to bankroll each day.
                                          YTD 2-1
                                          Maybe jumping on these lines too quickly? Usually when betting against the public it may be good to play these at the last second.
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                                          • freeVICK
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                                            • 01-21-08
                                            • 7114

                                            #22
                                            good luck today bro. im gonna tail you
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                                            • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                                              • 11-11-09
                                              • 4983

                                              #23
                                              I should have taken Yale +5.5. Harvard is gonna fuk me so bad.
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                                              • ramones951
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                                                • 12-23-08
                                                • 2356

                                                #24
                                                Hedgggggggge
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                                                • Jpound21
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                                                  • 11-22-07
                                                  • 206

                                                  #25
                                                  I like the idea strict. Wont it bug you though if your picks do amazing? I know personally if i say "hey im going to take WVU tonight" and then i dont and they win im like "son of a...". I applaud the discipline it takes to do it i just know for me theres no way i could invest the time to appropriately cap each game and then not even bet it. Kudos my man.
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                                                  • strictlywinners
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Jpound21
                                                    I like the idea strict. Wont it bug you though if your picks do amazing? I know personally if i say "hey im going to take WVU tonight" and then i dont and they win im like "son of a...". I applaud the discipline it takes to do it i just know for me theres no way i could invest the time to appropriately cap each game and then not even bet it. Kudos my man.
                                                    Well J, when you've been through the absolute dumb shit that I have done gambling. Missing a game, or taking a break isn't always a bad thing. I wasn't joking, when I said I've put 30k on multiple games before. And I'm not a rich man, so as for feeling that I'm missing something by not taking it, doesn't really bother me. Cause what would I put on it 500 1k? Doesn't even seem like bet to me anymore. I figure I'll track this for the month or until I get to 50k goal. At that time I will have 25k, to apply a slightly less aggressive version of this. I will not be putting the plays in though. I can't be trusted. hahahahaha
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                                                    • strictlywinners
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vesuvius
                                                      Maybe jumping on these lines too quickly? Usually when betting against the public it may be good to play these at the last second.
                                                      You are absolutely right, in most cases I would say wait until gametime, and for anyone that is tailing absolutely wait, to get best line. For those fading, fade early before line moves against you. I post I soon as I like them, at the lines they are currently at. Just easier that way. Then there can be no debate on what line I got. So if I liked it at line it was, I'm ok if spread moves against me.
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                                                      • strictlywinners
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                                                        #28
                                                        Gotta love Niagara
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                                                        • Vesuvius
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                                                          • 02-19-08
                                                          • 3886

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by strictlywinners
                                                          Gotta love Niagara
                                                          I love when everyone is on one side (Siena), too easy.
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                                                          • Vesuvius
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-19-08
                                                            • 3886

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by strictlywinners

                                                            You are absolutely right, in most cases I would say wait until gametime, and for anyone that is tailing absolutely wait, to get best line. For those fading, fade early before line moves against you. I post I soon as I like them, at the lines they are currently at. Just easier that way. Then there can be no debate on what line I got. So if I liked it at line it was, I'm ok if spread moves against me.
                                                            Perfectly stated.
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                                                            • strictlywinners
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                                                              #31
                                                              Day 2
                                                              5* Niagara +4 1052 Risking 1157 Win 1052
                                                              3* WVU -2.5 631 Risking 694 Lose 694
                                                              2* Eastern Wash.+2.5 420 Risking 462 Win 420
                                                              1* Rider -1 210 Risking 231 Lose 231
                                                              1* Idaho State +4 210 Risking 231 Lose 231

                                                              +316 on Day 2
                                                              Adjusted Bankroll 10836
                                                              Day 3
                                                              Plays coming shortly
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                                                              • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                                                                • 11-11-09
                                                                • 4983

                                                                #32
                                                                Give me a big Saturday winner bro lol, I so need it right about this time. Past 2 days have been ferocious to me.. I'm just doubling up everything nd chancing it at this point but I wana make sure I got that right play in hand.
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                                                                • strictlywinners
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Day 3
                                                                  5* Utah +4 1083
                                                                  4* Old Dominion -13.5 866
                                                                  4* Write State -12.5 866
                                                                  3* Gtech +2.5 650
                                                                  3* Texas -15 650
                                                                  2.5* BRadley +5.5 541

                                                                  Sorry I got lazy I'll add risking after it loses.
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                                                                  • iMxth3xbossx5000
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                                                                    • 11-11-09
                                                                    • 4983

                                                                    #34
                                                                    How do you like Michigan State at -4 away against Penn State?
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                                                                    • DaTruth10
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 09-23-09
                                                                      • 684

                                                                      #35
                                                                      spread is mich st -7
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