Over/Unders. I suggest we stay away forever!

[BiffTFinancial]

If not for Totals, I would never win a game, so I strongly disagree with the thread title.

have to agree with LT on this one, and strongly. only caveat is that i almost never play 1H overs, and if i like a game to go under, i usually play 1H under to eliminate the FTs on the back end (so long as the 1H total is 63+; anything below that always seems risky). anyone who played Toledo/Miami under last night will tell you that not all totals are a lottery.

as for your recent luck, all i can say is that i'm sorry to hear that and it will turn around. not that you want/need my advice, but when things aren't going well, best way out for me has been to keep the card small and just find 2-3 plays that i really like (a 3-0, 2-0 or even 2-1 card does wonders for the psyche). BOL and hang in there.

[BigMama]

Win some lose some

[floridagolfer]

Guys and gals, I've said this a million times before: This is what happens when you bet on 19- and 20-year-olds. You see a lot of things that'll make you tear out your hair and scream. Over the course of any season there will be those times when you've got a W in the bag and it slips away, or vice versa. I don't care how much time you spend handicapping and looking at your prediction models, there's no way anyone can see some of these things coming. I know it's easier said than done, but the sooner you're able to forget about these nights, the better off you'll be.

[PAPSMEAR]

Guys and gals, I've said this a million times before: This is what happens when you bet on 19- and 20-year-olds. You see a lot of things that'll make you tear out your hair and scream. Over the course of any season there will be those times when you've got a W in the bag and it slips away, or vice versa. I don't care how much time you spend handicapping and looking at your prediction models, there's no way anyone can see some of these things coming. I know it's easier said than done, but the sooner you're able to forget about these nights, the better off you'll be.

not limited to 19 and 20 year olds. some of the shit i've seen go down in the nba this year defies belief

[floridagolfer]

not limited to 19 and 20 year olds. some of the shit i've seen go down in the nba this year defies belief

Probably so; these things aren't confined to any one sport.

[Regul8er]

Guys, sorry I blew up last night, but I felt my voice needed to be heard.

I had deposited $1500 three weeks ago, and was betting between 3-4% a game. I really listened on here, and bet a percentage that was supposed to keep me in the game long term. Well when you go 6-32 over three weeks, your in deep deep trouble. And the way I lost a number of these 32 games is just so sickening I can hardly stand it. It's not a good feeling when you watch a game or check and final score and know that your going to lose. Has anyone experienced this kind of streak?? I don't know how I will recover from this. I sure won't be able to post up for a long time, probably not even in time for March Madness, which is really disappointing.

With that said, I still have $14 in my account, haha! Maybe I can turn a 6-32 streak into a 32-6 and make some lost money back.
But O/U's are way too unpredictable in my opinion, and I will stay far far away in the future. I will not even look at totals, as I may convince myself into a play. They are by far the hardest bets to win, hands down. I cant stop thinking about Florida/South Carolina scoring 30 points in the last 2 mins. I didn't even know this was possible. I've lost NBA totals where I needed 7 or 8 points in last 5 minutes, and couldnt hit.

[LT Profits]

If Nevada decided to start putting Idaho on the line with 2 mins left, score 30 points, and get the total up over 150, you might be singing a different tune. Your VERY lucky sir I didnt bet this game, or you most likely would not hve cashed tonight.

No, it would not have changed a thing as it is only one game. College Basketball Totals may be the EASIEST thing to beat in all of sports, which is why the limits on them are the lowest of any major sport.

[Regul8er]

I see what your saying and coming from LT, but I still can't agree with you. When you experience losses like those who had Florida/South Carolina UNDR last night, you tend to feel a certain way.

I also remember having Ohio St/Iowa under 125.5 on Sunday. Total is at 121, Iowa down 11, and they foul with about 8 seconds left?? Are you serious. Turner knocks down both free throws, and some Iowa scrub comes down the floor and barries a three at the buzzer.

I can't believe how many of these losses I've experienced lately. When these losses keep piling up and piling up, your bankroll is not safe betting 3% a game, which I've been doing.

[LT Profits]

You are just overreacting to a few bad beats, CBB Totals are a long-term gold mine, provided you play at a book that offers reasonable limits.

[Regul8er]

TRUE. Well maybe I just need to follow all of your totals next year if I can save some money.
What percent of bankroll do you generally bet on a given game? I don't want to go down to 1%, just not enough there to get excited.

[floridagolfer]

We all have these streaks; no one is immune to them. Earlier this CBB season I think I went something like 4-17 over six days, then followed that up by going 12-2. Included in that miserable streak were some losses that were damn tough to take: losing by half a point with a team that went 9-for-24 from the free throw line; and losing by 1 point because neither team scored at all in the final 2 minutes. During these times it just seems like you'll never have another winner, but that never happens.

Good luck bouncing back.

[Regul8er]

Unfortunately I only have $14 to bounce back with......hahahaha!!!!! I guess if one can go from $1,500 to $14 in three weeks, betting 3%....one can go from $14 back up to $1,500. Probably have to risk 100% of bankroll a few times to get there though.

[Jaug]

That florida game was a real moose, looked at the play by play.

[keitht]

I totally agree that over and unders are very hard to pick.. I always play the over, and never hit... I am going to stick with straight wagers on the spread for a while.... if that doesn't work going to take a break and hit the horses a bit. goodluck

[iceaxe56]

most of the time when you lose your ass is going against the home team--home advantage means everything in college basketball-just check it out--unless its a big rivalry or revenge game--if you don't believe me look at the last few nights-o/u just get an average of the teams points for the year and go with what you got--its that simple--gl

[balls2wall]

Guys, sorry I blew up last night, but I felt my voice needed to be heard.

I had deposited $1500 three weeks ago, and was betting between 3-4% a game. I really listened on here, and bet a percentage that was supposed to keep me in the game long term. Well when you go 6-32 over three weeks, your in deep deep trouble. And the way I lost a number of these 32 games is just so sickening I can hardly stand it. It's not a good feeling when you watch a game or check and final score and know that your going to lose. Has anyone experienced this kind of streak?? I don't know how I will recover from this. I sure won't be able to post up for a long time, probably not even in time for March Madness, which is really disappointing.

With that said, I still have $14 in my account, haha! Maybe I can turn a 6-32 streak into a 32-6 and make some lost money back.
But O/U's are way too unpredictable in my opinion, and I will stay far far away in the future. I will not even look at totals, as I may convince myself into a play. They are by far the hardest bets to win, hands down. I cant stop thinking about Florida/South Carolina scoring 30 points in the last 2 mins. I didn't even know this was possible. I've lost NBA totals where I needed 7 or 8 points in last 5 minutes, and couldnt hit.

Damn bro, 6-32 is a pretty bad streak. I feel for ya. We have all had bad streaks. Hang in there!!


I don't know how much advice you want, but I will give one of the observations I had while reading this thread.

I noticed you said you were betting $50-$75 I think and your bank roll was $600 at the end. You said you were betting around 3% I believe it was, which is good. However when your bank roll was diminished it appears you were still betting the same amount you were when you had 3 times the bank roll. Now your bets at the end were 10% of what was your current bank roll.

You may want to consider adjusting your bets so that it is whatever percentage you want of your CURRENT bank roll.

It may not be a bad idea to lower that percentage too. At least until you get back in the groove and picking winners.


hope you bounce back strong

[Regul8er]

balls2wall.....Yes your absolutely dead on. I started at 3% and kept betting that same amount the whole way through, so yes I was up to 10% and higher by the end.

I'm going to make it back with this $14 boys, haha

[LT Profits]

Most of my plays are 2.5% of BR, and I'd say at least 85% of my totals are Unders.

[gwiz]

you can do it bud

I read a poker pro talking about bankroll management and he was saying it is more appropriate to take shots when the roll is smaller and can be replaced

find a couple good plays and your back in the game

I agree totals suck I rarely look at them

from my understanding

the thing about bankroll % is to keep you around to learn your strengths and weaknesses

you have pinpointed one

I go about 1% which allows me to laugh off any loss and it makes it easier to see where you went wrong without being so emotionally involved



It sounds like you are gambling for the thrill of excitement, take it from me, you can get worked up over little bets you just have to realize you are not doing this to get rich you are doing it for the thrill of choosing the right side and accept it for what it is

It's good to see you have recovered somewhat mentally

[Regul8er]

Ya Im back in good spirits. I'm going to Vegas in March with my wife and parents (there 50th Birthdays) and I had a goal to win between $1000-$1500 for me to take to Vegas for myself and my wife. Tha dream got pissed on, haha

[EaglesPhan36]

Totals are really what I like about NCAAB. The trick to me is finding teams that consistently go in one direction, UNDER or OVER and pound them. Every year there are a handful that will hit O/U 60-65% or better if you bet every game in the same direction after you get a decent sample size. Villanova is a good example on OVERs this year. I think they are over 60% in favor of OVERs. St.Mary's is also around 60% at hitting OVERs. Charleston and Gonzaga are other solid OVERs at 60% or more. Illinois I think is one of the highest OVER cash rates at over 70% from the stats I have seen. And then for UNDERs, Wisconsin is over 60% on those. I think Richmond is around or better than that mark. Michigan also very high UNDER cash rate. Alabama too.

You just have to stick to not trying to bet every game that you think you like (hard I know) and stick with some certain situations. Also even on these teams that have high cash rates in one direction or the other, look at their stats too to see if it's deceptive due to where their totals are set usually. Just my opinion.

[Kustac]

WOW! I just looked at the play by play for the final minute. Ouch that had to be a tough loss.

[Powderguy]

Brutal when you're on the losing end, awesome high when you're on the winning end of those foul fests. You'll bounce back man.

[Regul8er]

No crap right kustac...I cant make this stuff up! I'm sure alot of people looked it up because they simply don't believe my story, but its true what happened. Extremely fishy, and makes you wonder, but true nonetheless.

SC up 69-59, Florida misses a shot with 50 seconds left, you think its a done deal. 11 points UNDER the total, walk in the park right?
Florida proceeds to foul for no reason whatsoever, and the final gets up to 77-71. Thats 20 points in 50 seconds when the game was out of hand. Any other time, teams just dribble the clock out and jam done. It boggles my mind every time I think of it, and is in fact putting me in a sh!tty mood when I was recovering quite well today.

[Regul8er]

After ALL my pissin and moanin....I decided you know what, if I'm gonna go down, I'm goin down with a total.

UNCW/Towson 1st Half 65.5. Under looks very tempting with UNCW's style of play and Tomko being out. So lets go OVER for $14.

Normally I would never bet this game, but with $14, I either want to raise up a little bit or go broke before tonight. We'll see wha happens.

[iceaxe56]

yeah but on the other hand --what if you had the over--it goes both ways--yeah they shave points--easeist thing to do and the hardest thing to prove--good luck on your turnaround--scared money never wins--

[floridagolfer]

Normally, I couldn't care less about the picks of others, but I'm pulling for you this afternoon. Get that account balance up to $28 and, then, next stop, $30!

[TheAccountant]

MLs are king..at least your incentives and the teams incentives are lined up the same..

Unless the fix is in of course

[balls2wall]

After ALL my pissin and moanin....I decided you know what, if I'm gonna go down, I'm goin down with a total.

UNCW/Towson 1st Half 65.5. Under looks very tempting with UNCW's style of play and Tomko being out. So lets go OVER for $14.

Normally I would never bet this game, but with $14, I either want to raise up a little bit or go broke before tonight. We'll see wha happens.

nail it buddy

I will be pullin for ya

[Regul8er]

I WON GUYS I WON GUYS!!!!!!! I cant believe it.

Thinking bout going all in again on the 2nd Half!

[balls2wall]

After ALL my pissin and moanin....I decided you know what, if I'm gonna go down, I'm goin down with a total.

UNCW/Towson 1st Half 65.5. Under looks very tempting with UNCW's style of play and Tomko being out. So lets go OVER for $14.

Normally I would never bet this game, but with $14, I either want to raise up a little bit or go broke before tonight. We'll see wha happens.

66 in the first half with a minute and a half left

nice job

[Regul8er]

Thanks balls.......gotta love the support system.

Just went all in......Towson -2.5 2nd Half. Risk $27 to Win $25.

Towson sustained a nice run by UNCW where they were unconscious from beyond the arc. UNCW 6-11 from three, and Towson 1-9, yet they are only behind by a point. If the Seahawks lose there pace a bit, Towson has been cleaning the boards, and ahead 17-8 in that phase. CMON TIGERS!!!!!

[Regul8er]

Im barreled in, I'm broke! I know this bet was only $27, but thats no where near the point.
7-33 in last 40 plays. This game is a coinflip. There is no 60% or 55% edge on any one game or line. You know it, and I know it. It's a coinflip plain and simple! I've never heard of Heads coming up 33 times out of 40. Didn't know it was possible. Defies all odds.

I don't know why I find a thrill for putting my hard earned cash on a coinflip. It's stupid, because in the longterm, 95% of us stumble, trip, fall and lose our a$$es. Sportsbooks would not be around if this wasn't true.

Looking for a rock to crawl under. Peace