Late money coming in Ohio State in Vegas?
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I think that public money will start to pour in on FL. in the next hour or so.Comment -
My book still has 5Comment -
It's just been posted, LVSC has cut Florida to -4.5 as well..Comment -
should this make the ohio st backers happy to see or whatComment -
If you look at it closely, the Stratosphere sportsbook cut the line to -4 at 4:05pm. At that time, most of the Vegas sportsbooks still had Florida -5. Let's face it, that's a major move and mostly since then all the sportsbooks in vegas and the LVSC have moved Florida down.
This all adds up to trouble for Florida backers, imho.Comment -
pinnacle moved this line to 4 at 6:36 easternComment -
I go with my heart and what I see. All this action doesn't necessarily mean anything.
The LVSC line movement is troubling, imho. There has to be a reason for their line movement, right?
The Stratosphere line movement is huge. They didn't move the line a whole point for nothing, the question is:
Possibility 1: Did they do it to even the money out on their books? (in which case the line move means little)
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Possibility 2: Did they move the line because they suddenly love Ohio State for some reason and they want to take all the Florida action? (in which case, there must be something really wrong with Florida and/or something great about Ohio State)
With the LVSC following suit and cutting the line after the Stratosphere, I'm going with Possibility 2 as the answer right now.
What does everyone else think?Comment -
Possibility 2: Did they move the line because they suddenly love Ohio State for some reason and they want to take all the Florida action? (in which case, there must be something really wrong with Florida and/or something great about Ohio State)
This all adds up to trouble for Ohio State backers, imho.
see why durito doesn't followComment -
Personaly, I don't pay that much attention to line moves. There are many reasons that could have moved that line. And, it's still 4.5 mostly offshore, which is inline with where it's been most of the day. I liked and took OSU at +5 earlier. I would not play it at +4.
Where you have me confused is you say:
I subscribe to possibility 2, that's what I believe in.Which implies that Ohio St should win or atleast cover. Yet, you say:Possibility 2: Did they move the line because they suddenly love Ohio State for some reason and they want to take all the Florida action? (in which case, there must be something really wrong with Florida and/or something great about Ohio State)
This all adds up to trouble for Ohio State backers, imho.Comment -
BetJam has been pretty steady at 4.5 ... it snuck up to 5 around Noon today and that's when I jumped in for OSU.Comment -
Why would a sporsbook move a line from -5 to -4 when virtually every other book has the game at -5?
I think it's either to even their books (they had a huge bet at +5) or it's because their linesmakers/analysts got some news that's very bad for the favorite or good for the underdog and they decide to gamble on the underdog by dropping the spread and trying to take as much action as possible on the favorite.
Is there something wrong with my logic?Comment -
FYI guys, You can get OSU +5 at WSEX right nowComment -
your logic is either or.
(in which case, there must be something really wrong with Florida and/or something great about Ohio State)
This all adds up to trouble for Ohio State backers
1) there must be something really wrong with Florida
2) something great about Ohio State
3) This all adds up to trouble for Ohio State backers
which is it, due to the fact of you accidentally contradicting yourself aside from durito I was confussed as well.
In any case forget it I could care less I was looking for a simple explanation not a debate.
I like florida and over to anyone who cares.Comment -
Just went to 5 at thegreek as well guys.Comment -
To make it clear, I think that this is bad for Florida. I'm sorry.
Of course, you've got to go with your anaylysis and your feelings. All this could be very minor and in fact meaningless. However, these kinds of line movements are meaningful quite often. The only problem is, you never know before the game when a move like this will be meaningful.
I can understand why people would ignore this stuff but I always check the line movements before the game and it's cost me several times but it's also helped me far more than it's hurt me. It's just a personal choice.
Back on topic, the Stratoshpere line isn't moving up which implies that they're hot on Ohio State, imho. They're human just like us though, they can mistakes too.Comment -
I don't plan to bet this game but if I did I like florida and overComment -
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I will take some Oh State @ 5.5 no lessComment -
i live in vegas and go to casino's 5-10 times a day
Theres only one reason lines move. Money on that team or total. Not including injuries, info or weather or shit like that. Peeps are betting ohio state. Most likely sharp money.
Go in and bet $5000-$10000 at the stratosphere and the line will drop a half a point.Comment -
You sound like you know what you're talking about, is there something wrong my logic in this argument?:
Why would a sporsbook move a line from -5 to -4 when virtually every other book has the game at -5?
I think it's either to even their books (they had a huge bet at +5) or it's because their linesmakers/analysts got some news that's very bad for the favorite or good for the underdog and they decide to gamble on the underdog by dropping the spread and trying to take as much action as possible on the favorite.
Is there something wrong with my logic?Comment -
no not at all
the second part isnt true. Bookmakers dont decide to drop a spread and bet on the underdog. Then they become the gambler.
TO answer ur ?. Its simple. If a guy at one book places a huge bet like $40000 (depends on the book) they drop the line a point or less depending on how much they have on the other side. Thats how I have always seen it. In fact I have gone to the cannery off the strip and placed a bet for a few grand. They said they would take $1500 of it then move the line and then if I wanted to rebet it at the new line I could.Comment -
The line moved from -5 to -4 probably due to someone betting heavily on OSU. I doubt their linesmakers/analysts got inside info on OSU...Comment -
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Not to get back on this but everyone knows if a large wager is placed the line moves that isn't logic it is common knowledge of gambling. You weren't being logical when you were contradicting yourself and you admited to that and said you were tired . That is the whole debate and how it started you made 3 contradicting statements. By the way how did you like that florida and over
, it's good to be right
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