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  • diehardfan
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-01-08
    • 228

    #1
    Who here believes that MSU has a decent chance of winning the game?
    The MSU money line is paying +325.

    MSU was not supposed to beat Louisville or UCONN and they were two of the best teams in the country.

    I think MSU is the best TEAM in the country. But are they good enough to overcome the talent of UNC?

    My gut is telling me that MSU wins this game.

    Am I way of the mark?
  • Fiasco
    SBR MVP
    • 11-02-08
    • 2406

    #2
    I do
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      msu wins outright
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      • frostno98
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-11-07
        • 9769

        #4
        Not me. MSU has not seen an offense comparable to UNC in this tournament so far, not one of those teams that they've already beaten are excellent 3 point shooters. Aside from UNC already whooping MSU @ss, they have played teams with comparable defensive schemes in Villanova, Oklahoma, and LSU. And dominated all of them!
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        • Fiasco
          SBR MVP
          • 11-02-08
          • 2406

          #5
          Unc will shoot 30% or less from behind the arc tonight

          I can almost guarantee that
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          • frostno98
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-11-07
            • 9769

            #6
            Originally posted by Fiasco
            Unc will shoot 30% or less from behind the arc tonight

            I can almost guarantee that
            Great, that will be easier for me to parlay UNC with the over then!
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            • yisman
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-01-08
              • 75682

              #7
              25% chance of winning, IMO. So borderline value on the ML. Probably yes at +325 or more.

              I wouldn't put much on it, though.
              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
              [/quote]

              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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              • yisman
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-01-08
                • 75682

                #8
                Originally posted by Fiasco
                Unc will shoot 30% or less from behind the arc tonight

                I can almost guarantee that
                I would bet on UNC shooting 30% or better from 3.
                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                [/quote]

                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                • Seattle Slew
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-02-06
                  • 7373

                  #9
                  I think they have a great chance. Every game they have played has been tough against great opponents. USC, Kansas, Lousiville, UConn. UNC has not played those type of teams.

                  Izzo just outcoached Calhoun and Pitino. I don't think Roy Williams is as good as those two.
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                  • nobshine
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-12-08
                    • 489

                    #10
                    NC beat them with MSU missing 3 starters. Do not count out Izzo, he will have his team do the dirty work tonight. May not win but will make it a game.
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                    • PsychoQ
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-13-08
                      • 1130

                      #11
                      [QUOTE]I think MSU is the best TEAM in the country. But are they good enough to overcome the talent of UNC?/QUOTE]
                      Do you understand what you just said.. That makes no since. UNC ROLLS TONIGHT
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                      • Fischnasty
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-10-09
                        • 1931

                        #12
                        Psycho, it makes sense. He was saying they play together as a team better than anyone in the country. May or may not be true; regardless I'd say they play better as a team than UNC.

                        BUT.... they just cant match the talent. UNC ML for me for $1050.
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                        • BobHarvey
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-08-08
                          • 3987

                          #13
                          Originally posted by diehardfan
                          The MSU money line is paying +325.

                          I think MSU is the best TEAM in the country. But are they good enough to overcome the talent of UNC?
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                          • dbldown
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-09-08
                            • 1055

                            #14
                            Sure they have a chance to win, but it's not likely. I put MSU in the same league as Villinova, great team - good depth, but I don't think they can hang with the best team in the country - But all things are possible at this point.
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                            • BobHarvey
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-08-08
                              • 3987

                              #15
                              Depth and Ty Lawson will be the keys tonight. North Carolna keeps brining waves of guys off the bench. None of the teams MSU has beaten: Louisville, U-Conn etc. has a bench this deep.
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                              • unde0087
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                                • 03-27-08
                                • 28998

                                #16
                                Originally posted by diehardfan
                                The MSU money line is paying +325.

                                MSU was not supposed to beat Louisville or UCONN and they were two of the best teams in the country.

                                I think MSU is the best TEAM in the country. But are they good enough to overcome the talent of UNC?

                                My gut is telling me that MSU wins this game.

                                Am I way of the mark?

                                I don't think they have much of a chance but good luck to you
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                                • freeVICK
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-21-08
                                  • 7114

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BobHarvey
                                  Depth and Ty Lawson will be the keys tonight. North Carolna keeps brining waves of guys off the bench. None of the teams MSU has beaten: Louisville, U-Conn etc. has a bench this deep.

                                  what about the mich state bench??? they are far deeper then unc
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                                  • diehardfan
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-01-08
                                    • 228

                                    #18
                                    [quote=PsychoQ;1717275]
                                    I think MSU is the best TEAM in the country. But are they good enough to overcome the talent of UNC?/QUOTE]
                                    Do you understand what you just said.. That makes no since. UNC ROLLS TONIGHT
                                    Yes, I completely understand what I said.

                                    One team may play better as a team, but another may have more talent.

                                    Many times in football/basketball, talent takes over and wins the game. But there are a fair amount of times when the better TEAM prevails.

                                    Case in point: Appalachian St over Michigan.

                                    And if you don't understand that concept, I wouldn't make it known on a message board. Because you have either not been watching sports very long or you're just plain stupid.

                                    Also, look up "since" in a dictionary. You'll see that it does not make much "sense" in your sentence.
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                                    • TPowell
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                                      • 02-21-08
                                      • 18842

                                      #19
                                      lol Louisville is deeper than UNC you idiot. We go 10 deep by ****ing halftime EVERY GAME
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                                      • Tsoprano
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                                        • 04-14-08
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                                        #20
                                        I do
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                                        • diehardfan
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-01-08
                                          • 228

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Fischnasty
                                          Psycho, it makes sense. He was saying they play together as a team better than anyone in the country. May or may not be true; regardless I'd say they play better as a team than UNC.

                                          BUT.... they just cant match the talent. UNC ML for me for $1050.
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                                          • Rixsaw
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-23-08
                                            • 4532

                                            #22
                                            [quote=diehardfan;1717326]
                                            Originally posted by PsychoQ

                                            Yes, I completely understand what I said.

                                            One team may play better as a team, but another may have more talent.

                                            Many times in football/basketball, talent takes over and wins the game. But there are a fair amount of times when the better TEAM prevails.

                                            Case in point: Appalachian St over Michigan.

                                            And if you don't understand that concept, I wouldn't make it known on a message board. Because you have either not been watching sports very long or you're just plain stupid.

                                            Also, look up "since" in a dictionary. You'll see that it does not make much "sense" in your sentence.
                                            No Sir, Michigan was not the best team in the country nor was Appalachian St more talented.

                                            I wouldn't put any money on MSU ML. What I saw last week was UCONN unable to keep up with MSU fast pace game. Their defense ripped apart. Once they trailed behind (unfamiliar territory) they made poor decision, and lost confidence in their shooting.

                                            UNC was able to play a fast pace game for 35 minutes. They were confidence with their shooting and move the ball very well. Like UCONN they don't often trail in the game. It would be interesting to see if UNC can keep their composure if they trailed. I think UNC will emerge as the victor. They are bigger, better and damm well talented. IMO.
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                                            • BobHarvey
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                                              • 07-08-08
                                              • 3987

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by freeVICK
                                              what about the mich state bench??? they are far deeper then unc
                                              Let me rephrase. Both teams go about seven deep player wise. But NC's 5-10 would be starters anywhere else including MSU.
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                                              • diehardfan
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-01-08
                                                • 228

                                                #24
                                                [quote=Rixsaw;1717367]
                                                Originally posted by diehardfan

                                                No Sir, Michigan was not the best team in the country nor was Appalachian St more talented.


                                                Michigan was obviously more talented top to bottom. They had a roster full of recruits that would never consider a Div 2AA team.

                                                Appalachian St won because they played better as a TEAM.

                                                The point: a team that plays better as a TEAM, can sometimes overcome another that has more talent.
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                                                • freeVICK
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-21-08
                                                  • 7114

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BobHarvey
                                                  Let me rephrase. Both teams go about seven deep player wise. But NC's 5-10 would be starters anywhere else including MSU.
                                                  are you ****ing kidding me? mich st is one of the deepest teams in the nation. they plays 10+ guys regularly.

                                                  i was undecided about which way to go, but not anymore. im fading you and taking mich st. you sound like the ultimate square
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                                                  • BobHarvey
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-08-08
                                                    • 3987

                                                    #26
                                                    in this case, square = $$$$$

                                                    Gl tonight.
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                                                    • Fiasco
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                                                      • 11-02-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by frostno98
                                                      Great, that will be easier for me to parlay UNC with the over then!



                                                      are you implying that I am fade worthy?
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                                                      • flyingillini
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                                                        • 12-06-06
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • profitmker
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                                                          • 01-28-09
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                                                          #29
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                                                          • BetterBetter
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-18-09
                                                            • 542

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by freeVICK
                                                            what about the mich state bench??? they are far deeper then unc
                                                            Both teams have 9 guys who average 9.7 minutes or more per game. Both teams 9th guy averages exactly 9.7 minutes per game. What in the hell are you talking about?
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                                                            • BobHarvey
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-08-08
                                                              • 3987

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by freeVICK
                                                              are you ****ing kidding me? mich st is one of the deepest teams in the nation. they plays 10+ guys regularly.

                                                              i was undecided about which way to go, but not anymore. im fading you and taking mich st. you sound like the ultimate square
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                                                              • yisman
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-01-08
                                                                • 75682

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Fiasco
                                                                Unc will shoot 30% or less from behind the arc tonight

                                                                I can almost guarantee that
                                                                Maybe you meant Michigan State.

                                                                How can you "almost guarantee" that a team with Lawson, Ellington, and Green will hit 30% or less? Those are three damn good shooters. I don't care what team they're playing.

                                                                Prediction: UNC finishes above 30% from 3.
                                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                [/quote]

                                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                • Fiasco
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                                  • 2406

                                                                  #33
                                                                  they were shooting 36% before green just hit that 3...

                                                                  not too far off

                                                                  these refs have allowed the blowout imo (giving unc the bonus 10 minutes into the game)

                                                                  shoulda been a 12-15pt game at the half
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                                                                  • yisman
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-01-08
                                                                    • 75682

                                                                    #34
                                                                    you said you could almost guarantee it!

                                                                    you're very far off. They're hitting their season average.
                                                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                    [/quote]

                                                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                    • hi-rez
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-19-07
                                                                      • 1298

                                                                      #35
                                                                      both teams shooting from the stripe with 10min left....2H under is done
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