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  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #1
    If Murray St doesn't get an atlarge bid....
    Something is really wrong, announcers on crack if they think this is not an Atlarge team
  • bballs84
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-11-09
    • 5461

    #2
    How do they not guard the 3 line?
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    • meader99
      SBR MVP
      • 10-30-10
      • 4223

      #3
      They have some pretty bad losses.
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      • LT Profits
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        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
        Something is really wrong, announcers on crack if they think this is not an Atlarge team
        Not according to Lunardi.

        Joe Lunardi @ESPNLunardi · 21h 21 hours ago
        @MadsenCasey: @ESPNLunardi Where would Murray State be had they lost today?” N.I.T.
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        • bballs84
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          • 11-11-09
          • 5461

          #5
          It would be a shame.. Both these teams will give a good 1st round game
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          • Louisvillekid1
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            • 10-17-07
            • 52143

            #6
            Its an absolute joke if they don't get in, I'll write more on this later...
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            • KRIT
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-11-14
              • 12878

              #7
              Why do they deserve an at large bid? Look at their schedule, no big wins. Didn't play a hard out of conference schedule. Their SOS ranking is like 197, BPI is in the late 60's. They have bad losses to Portland, Houston, and Valpo. Valpo is a solid squad but they lost by like 30.

              I show no mercy for these schools when they don't test themselves in the non-conf. schedule. Like what do they expect if they don't get the automatic bid.
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              • bballs84
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-11-09
                • 5461

                #8
                Eye test.. I would put them in.. Exciting, offensive team that can challenge anybody.. Payne a future star that can make a name for himself in march
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #9
                  whatever bro, you know you my guy but fukk what they think they deserve. out of conf was as sad as their conf. you wanna dance win that fukkin gm you had no business losing.. kick rocks and go get beat by a team that can play defense in the nit..

                  if you may not have noticed im a little bitter.. turned makings of good day into back to square 1 for the night gms..
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                  • KRIT
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                    • 01-11-14
                    • 12878

                    #10
                    Exactly, bank get its. What did Murray State expect with that garbage non-conf. schedule. Only legit team they scheduled was Xavier, and Xavier isn't exactly world beaters.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                      Its an absolute joke if they don't get in, I'll write more on this later...
                      There is no reason to take two teams from the Ohio Valley, Murray is only ranked 75th on Pomeroy (Before losing today).
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                      • KRIT
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                        • 01-11-14
                        • 12878

                        #12
                        I'd much rather let in BYU over Murray St. At least BYU has beat a few good teams like St Mary's and Zags.
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                        • bballs84
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                          • 11-11-09
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                          #13
                          Ya St Mary's a good team.. Got killed by Portland today.. Belmont would burry St Mary's
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                          • DOM_Toretto
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                            • 01-28-13
                            • 9035

                            #14
                            Should have fukkin won that. Belmont circus ass shot. Unreal. Then Murray st should have got the ball in their best players hands but didn't.
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                            • DOM_Toretto
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                              • 01-28-13
                              • 9035

                              #15
                              But I agree, would rather have one of the best shooting, one of the hottest teams, like Murray state, in the tourney over any SEC team other than UK or LSU (& maybe Arky).
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                              • KRIT
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-11-14
                                • 12878

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bballs84
                                Ya St Mary's a good team.. Got killed by Portland today.. Belmont would burry St Mary's
                                Lol I didn't see they lost today. Ok not sure if I'd put in byu over them, but my point is at least they have quality wins.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                  But I agree, would rather have one of the best shooting, one of the hottest teams, like Murray state, in the tourney over any SEC team other than UK or LSU (& maybe Arky).
                                  ill take lsu over murry st all day. they would abuse that team down low and they generally play better up tempo. outside sure they got that pg and sure he would do his thing. bottom line with that many possessions lsu physical dominance down low would show thru and hornsby id expect a big gm in that type pace..

                                  not saying it couldnt happen but only if lsu pulls one of their no shows. why should the more talented overall team that played much better teams and beat many get left out on bases they inconsistent and have had temporary lulls playing more physical teams. while murry st got 27 wins vs no one close to the what? top 150? (excuse me illi st) and all they have to do is beat bucknell and they in. call me crazy but id take lsu to get that win if that what they needed ..
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                                  • Stallion
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-21-10
                                    • 3617

                                    #18
                                    How can they not get in ranked 25th, as of right now??
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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #19
                                      Of course LSU over murray
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                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-17-07
                                        • 52143

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                        There is no reason to take two teams from the Ohio Valley, Murray is only ranked 75th on Pomeroy (Before losing today).
                                        I love you death as well as ken pom, but there is more to this game than his rankings
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #21
                                          Cameron Payne is a lottery pick, they could beat anyone of these 4-7 seeds
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                            Cameron Payne is a lottery pick, they could beat anyone of these 4-7 seeds
                                            lsu has a couple legit nba players on the front line and a sg that will play well in that style.. payne is very good, i wouldnt take him in top 10 after losing that gm. sure they can beat a lot of teams, but they didnt beat bucknell. this playoff time, handle your business if you play 244th out of conf schedule (or whatever it was)..
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                                            • LT Profits
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                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Stallion
                                              How can they not get in ranked 25th, as of right now??
                                              Same way SMU didn't get in ranked in top 25 on Selection Sunday last year. AP Ranking means nothing, OVC is a one-bid league.
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                                              • LT Profits
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-27-06
                                                • 90963

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                I love you death as well as ken pom, but there is more to this game than his rankings
                                                Of course but they play in a weak conference and beat no one out of conference.
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                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                  • 52143

                                                  #25
                                                  simple eye test

                                                  And lets not forget that basically played a road game tonight.
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                                                  • bballs84
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-11-09
                                                    • 5461

                                                    #26
                                                    People taking a ton away from Belmont.. Well coached and deadly shooters.. A very successful program.. We know what happens when teams like this make the dance...
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                                                    • KRIT
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                                                      • 01-11-14
                                                      • 12878

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                      Cameron Payne is a lottery pick, they could beat anyone of these 4-7 seeds
                                                      But that isn't how selection committee works. It doesn't matter how good you are, it is what have you done. It isn't about potential, it is all about resume. Murray St has zero resume.

                                                      Every year there are about 5-10 teams that get left out that are better than teams that got in. Everyone knows the NCAA tournament isn't about the best teams, it's about the teams that "earned" it.
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                        simple eye test

                                                        And lets not forget that basically played a road game tonight.
                                                        Doesn't change the fact that they have not one quality win.
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                                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-17-07
                                                          • 52143

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KRIT
                                                          But that isn't how selection committee works. It doesn't matter how good you are, it is what have you done. It isn't about potential, it is all about resume. Murray St has zero resume.

                                                          Every year there are about 5-10 teams that get left out that are better than teams that got in. Everyone knows the NCAA tournament isn't about the best teams, it's about the teams that "earned" it.
                                                          Shaka Smart might argue this
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                            Doesn't change the fact that they have not one quality win.
                                                            Listen I might be an idiot....

                                                            Actually I probably am....

                                                            If Murray St isn't a top 32 or whatever Atlarge team then I'm the king of idiots...
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              Listen I might be an idiot....

                                                              Actually I probably am....

                                                              If Murray St isn't a top 32 or whatever Atlarge team then I'm the king of idiots...
                                                              i dont doubt you can argue that, probably even convince me but lsu wouldnt be the team who they took a bid from. more importantly fukk them for taking away hitting my goal for the day better luck next year, hope some crap nit low seeded power conf team kicks your asses on home court..
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                                                              • ebbearsfb1
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                                                                • 12-07-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                my biggest problem is and I have said it for years.. for smaller conferences the regular season is more or less pointless. you can be 16-0 within your conference but if you lose in a one game conference tournament you are out. happened to Davidson a few years back, will happen to Murray again this year. Also, its not always as easy as saying well they should of scheduled better, alot of times bigger schools dont want to play better than average mid majors as there is nothing for those schools to gain in that situation.

                                                                of the last 4 in, I think I'd rather see more mid majors ala (the murrays of the world) then temple, or texas etc.



                                                                i know its a money grab, and the fans love these conference tournaments but if you wanted the best teams in the ncaa tourney. they would go the way of the ivy league and have the regular season actually mean something, and have a one game play in if teams are tied
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                  i dont doubt you can argue that, probably even convince me but lsu wouldnt be the team who they took a bid from. more importantly fukk them for taking away hitting my goal for the day better luck next year, hope some crap nit low seeded power conf team kicks your asses on home court..
                                                                  Dude LSU is of course in the dance

                                                                  Shit Temple > Murray St

                                                                  But the racers better be dancing
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                                                    my biggest problem is and I have said it for years.. for smaller conferences the regular season is more or less pointless. you can be 16-0 within your conference but if you lose in a one game conference tournament you are out. happened to Davidson a few years back, will happen to Murray again this year. Also, its not always as easy as saying well they should of scheduled better, alot of times bigger schools dont want to play better than average mid majors as there is nothing for those schools to gain in that situation.

                                                                    i know its a money grab, and the fans love these conference tournaments but if you wanted the best teams in the ncaa tourney. they would go the way of the ivy league and have the regular season actually mean something, and have a one game play in if teams are tied
                                                                    i understand everything you saying and yea it certainly not as easy for them to schedule but more to the point they cant get teams to come there for home and home 2 year deals. so just put yourself out there and take gms away like ucsb and put yourself thru a brutal schedule, whats it matter if you lose the gms you in same spot anyway. obviously they have disadvantages but other teams have proven you can overcome them even if it isnt fair..

                                                                    i do like what ivy league does but i do love the conf tourneys. i think it should be a source of pride for any team to win the reg season crown and to me means much more than nothing. nothing because they arent assured into dance? really so what, if they cant run thru their conf tourney they not running thru the 6 gms and winning it all, yes they could make a run but how is that more meaningful than any other accomplishment.

                                                                    i dont disagree with your premiss, i just like the current format and dont think at the end of the day it matters if the best team doesnt make it..winning your conf reg season championship is a big deal in every conf to every team i believe so not meaningless.
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                                                                    • 2daBank
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                                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                                      • 88966

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                      Dude LSU is of course in the dance

                                                                      Shit Temple > Murray St

                                                                      But the racers better be dancing
                                                                      temple is in? they wont be in my brackets long. they coulda won this tourney tho, maybe could be lying there, these fools cant score. of coarse you have to consider teams that play the slower pace win a high clip against more uptempo teams who dont know how to grind out wins with the likes of a temple..
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