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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #1
    sunday ncaa hoops discussion
    much smaller card but i think we can def come up with some good plays here..

    1st gm that stuck out to me was pit/wake. really like WF in this spot for a lot of reasons, dont wanna play them yet cause i think i might be able to hold out for a better number as line has already went from wf-1 at open to catching 2. im sure pit be the popular side so might as well wait and see..

    1st and foremost i think that ppl are gonna be playing pit because they been winning some gms of late and the fact they have played themselves into the tourney conversation so ppl are gonna look at this as a "must win".. far as them winning gms of late the only quality team they have beaten this month is unc at home and we all know how poorly they play at times. outside of that gm they beat cuse twice, bryant and BC at home.. while they looking good during a soft spot in their schedule wake was busy playing uva twice with a trip to ND in between, playing well and very competitively @ uva, played decently at ND but just couldnt keep pace the entire way, then collapsed in the rematch with uva (no shame in that).. far as the second part, "pit needing this win". i think this is one of the worst reasons to bet a team this time of the year. trust me just cause they need it doesnt mean they will magically play harder than the other team, especially a young team like wake who i dont believe is giving up on the season. maybe more importantly, teams that "have to win" this time of year are in this spot for a reason and to expect anything other than the inconsistent play that landed them in this spot is wishful thinking..

    matchup wise i think wake stacks up pretty well, pit has nobody at the 4 who can check devin thomas, he too big and strong for any defender they have to offer.. on the other end they have the length inside to bother young. artis is a tough matchup for them but wake can abuse him on the offensive end with post plays and rebounding if he attempts to defend the 4 spot.. pit will surely zone some to try and discourage wake from getting thomas the ball in good spots, that is fine because pit's zone leaves a lot to be desired defending the trey. granted wf hasnt shot the 3 well on the season but this a young team that has several capable shooters that can bust up a weak zone like pit's.. dont let the record fool you, wake can play and they have handled their business vs the bottom half of the conf at home. i think this young squad rebounds from that tough stretch and ass beating to cap it off with a extra day and a pit team that is a major drop in class from the teams they have faced of late.. think this be fairly high scoring and wake burst panthers shaky bubble...

    that was 1st gm i looked at,, will work on rest of card but wanted to get the thread started for the early risers in our group so we can get the ideas flowing..
  • terrortwylight
    SBR MVP
    • 11-04-09
    • 3032

    #2
    Right now I love SMU the most.

    I think Quinnipiac getting +5 against Manhattan is a gift.

    Iona -4.5 seems pretty good too. I don't think St. Pete's is going to be able to hang around with them offensively.

    That's about as far into it as I've got so far.
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    • terrortwylight
      SBR MVP
      • 11-04-09
      • 3032

      #3
      With you on WF, it's just a question of if they can get the 3 going today.
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      • Big Bear
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-01-11
        • 43253

        #4
        looked at the card yesterday briefly

        was thinking about reloading the account today

        leans were ohio state, wisconsin, colorado

        not very confident though.

        Ohio State may struggle vs Purdues size... something they have had some trouble with this season but they are usually a beast at home.

        the Colorado lean is mostly an inclination to double down on the Buffalos after they royally fukked me over on Thursday night. They should be extra motivated today coming off an embarrasingly 30 point beat down.

        Wisconsin is good but 8.5 is a lot of points to lay against Michigan State
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        • terrortwylight
          SBR MVP
          • 11-04-09
          • 3032

          #5
          Originally posted by Big Bear
          looked at the card yesterday briefly

          was thinking about reloading the account today

          leans were ohio state, wisconsin, colorado

          not very confident though.

          Ohio State may struggle vs Purdues size... something they have had some trouble with this season but they are usually a beast at home.

          the Colorado lean is mostly an inclination to double down on the Buffalos after they royally fukked me over on Thursday night. They should be extra motivated today coming off an embarrasingly 30 point beat down.

          Wisconsin is good but 8.5 is a lot of points to lay against Michigan State
          And Valentine is probable too (another reason I'd take the points with MSU but I'm a homer)
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #6
            Originally posted by terrortwylight
            Right now I love SMU the most.

            I think Quinnipiac getting +5 against Manhattan is a gift.

            Iona -4.5 seems pretty good too. I don't think St. Pete's is going to be able to hang around with them offensively.

            That's about as far into it as I've got so far.
            no idea what to do with smu, it prob them or nothing but dont feel good about it at all..

            st pete will grind the gm to a halt to stay in it with iona and iona just hasnt shot great on the road of late, they have let a lot of teams hang in till the very end against them. i wouldnt be comfortable laying the points even tho i do think they manage to win...

            dunno if quin a gift, man playing well and quin has dropped some conf road gms against weaker teams. id either be on quin with the points or nothing but not real sure if ill play it yet..
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            • terrortwylight
              SBR MVP
              • 11-04-09
              • 3032

              #7
              I'm loving ASU +2 @ Colorado.

              Colorado's Josh Scott (starting Center) has got a bad back. He's probable but they may need to throw Freshmen Tory Miller in there. I'm sure he's alright but no where near as good as Josh Scott.
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #8
                Originally posted by terrortwylight
                I'm loving ASU +2 @ Colorado.

                Colorado's Josh Scott (starting Center) has got a bad back. He's probable but they may need to throw Freshmen Tory Miller in there. I'm sure he's alright but no where near as good as Josh Scott.
                bufs didnt have scott or xavier johnson in the meeting @ asu that was only a 6 point gm
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                • xdodger19
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-20-12
                  • 18012

                  #9
                  How bout LSU in the sec tourney semifinals, they might beat the wild cats
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                  • Heandog
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-30-09
                    • 1634

                    #10
                    Like Providence in this spot last time they played Henton had his way with them scoring 28 , Pc lost at Marq earlier this year so thinking they are going to be up for this game, Big number sitting at 9 but Im going with the Friars 83-69 here.
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                    • Heandog
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-30-09
                      • 1634

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Heandog
                      Like Providence in this spot last time they played Henton had his way with them scoring 28 , Pc lost at Marq earlier this year so thinking they are going to be up for this game, Big number sitting at 9 but Im going with the Friars 83-69 here.
                      Pc is 12-3 at home this year and Marq has lost 11of there last 13 ,1-8 on the Road and -0-7 against ranked teams . Hopefully Anderson is still nursing his bad ankle as he missed last game and then pc will own the boards.
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                      • R.P. McMurphy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-15-12
                        • 9654

                        #12
                        Agree with Wake classic redemption spot after being a no show and getting their mud pushed in a few nights ago. Any thoughts on Osu gm Banker?
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                        • doublek1229
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 03-31-10
                          • 93

                          #13
                          I would be very careful with Wake Forest if I were you guys...

                          Pitt is desperate for another road win to add to their resume, a loss is crippling for them. They are playing some of their best basketball of the year right now, and Wake Forest has little to play for. I think Pitt takes one on the road here.
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                          • BeanTownClown88
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-08-13
                            • 1961

                            #14
                            Leanin cal...oregon st sux baddd and is on the road
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                            • PorkChop
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-18-08
                              • 8193

                              #15
                              No reason Houston should be laying 6 points to anyone.

                              Saying that, Iona -4 may be my favorite play. Would be more comfortable with it at -2 or 3 though
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #16
                                Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                Agree with Wake classic redemption spot after being a no show and getting their mud pushed in a few nights ago. Any thoughts on Osu gm Banker?
                                We talkin Ohio st not Oregon st?

                                tOSU I dunno, it one of those lines where the points look like the only play but I hate messing with cause these type lines on gms like this feel like total coin flips to me..

                                Far as beavers of Oregon st I actually lean to them w the points against cal, I'm in no hurry cause cal the popular side among lames and ppl I have respect for so assuming line will get higher.. It just a lean for now cause like I said few ppl I respect already on cal so maybe I'm wrong. I just havnt thought shit bout them all season, their offense miserable and the weak d got exposed as soon as they got off their cup cake non conf schedule.. Really question whether they should be favs. I been wrong before tho..
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by doublek1229
                                  I would be very careful with Wake Forest if I were you guys...

                                  Pitt is desperate for another road win to add to their resume, a loss is crippling for them. They are playing some of their best basketball of the year right now, and Wake Forest has little to play for. I think Pitt takes one on the road here.
                                  Whether I'm right or wrong who knows but I addressed everything you said bout liking pit in my 1st post.. I'd be careful w pit and that line of reasoning if I was u, I been wrong before tho (a bunch)..
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                                  • DOM_Toretto
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-28-13
                                    • 9035

                                    #18
                                    9 points is a lot to catch with MSU. They haven't ben blown out all season (only @ Maryland was it out of reach).

                                    Oregon catching 6 pts at Stanford seems juicy too. I haven't been convinced by the cardinal lately.
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                                    • 2daBank
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 88966

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Heandog
                                      Pc is 12-3 at home this year and Marq has lost 11of there last 13 ,1-8 on the Road and -0-7 against ranked teams . Hopefully Anderson is still nursing his bad ankle as he missed last game and then pc will own the boards.
                                      It for sure Provo or nothing for me.. Just Havnt felt like looking close enough to determine if I can lay those points yet..
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                        9 points is a lot to catch with MSU. They haven't ben blown out all season (only @ Maryland was it out of reach).

                                        Oregon catching 6 pts at Stanford seems juicy too. I haven't been convinced by the cardinal lately.
                                        I lean same way in both. Might be more interested in one of the totals more as both have potential I think, again just havnt looked close enough yet..
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                                        • PorkChop
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-18-08
                                          • 8193

                                          #21
                                          Just reading Iona has regular season locked up, essentially nothing to play for. Backing off

                                          Looking into Manhattan..
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                                          • R.P. McMurphy
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-15-12
                                            • 9654

                                            #22
                                            Sorry Bank yeah I want nothing to do with the Beaver/Cal shitfest lol. Yeah we're talkin B-10 here.
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                                            • davidg123
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 02-13-15
                                              • 261

                                              #23
                                              SMU -1 looks good to me! Also, Niagara -3 seems like a good pick too. Thoughts?
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                                              • EDDIE MONEY LINE
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-24-10
                                                • 6298

                                                #24
                                                Early leans with nothing in concrete yet I would be with u on wake.

                                                Also like mich st. Cal, Houston and Colorado.

                                                Also Monmouth will probably slap.

                                                No way I'll actually play this many games. I'm having a great week this week at 70% so I'm not gonna give it all back the next 2 days before we settle up for the week.
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                                                • survive
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-08-11
                                                  • 2388

                                                  #25
                                                  Wisconsin by 15
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                                                  • davidg123
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 02-13-15
                                                    • 261

                                                    #26
                                                    I agree, Eddie. The goal for a day like today is to just avoid the temptations as much as you possibly can since there isn't that much to bet.
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                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                      • 52143

                                                      #27
                                                      Wake is a tough situation, as both squads had extra prep time for this one. Last home game for wake you'd think they throw that UVA tape out and just spend the time for dixon's group. It's the first time Pitt has ever played @ wake, and dixon stressed to his guys the importance of getting accumulated early in shoot around and just with the facilities in general.

                                                      This game is very important to pitt as if they drop it they pretty much need to win out and make deep run with big wins in ACC tourney. However don't let that be a strong angle for your capping as their is a reason they are in this spot. They have won 6/8 much due to the fact they have been passing the ball extremely well, leading to much better shot selection. The odd thing about this pitt team is their struggle on the glass, it sounds strange to type that when speaking on a dixon pitt squad but this is an edge that will really favor wake. Pitt does take care of the rock very well as they actually lead the nation is A/t ratio. This of course is very important when playing on the road. They shot under 40% in 2/3 road games but last out against cuse they were in the 50 range. Another big reason of their late push is simply the return of Cameron Wright, they are getting healthy at the right time.

                                                      Matchup to look for is going to be Michael Young ability or lack their of to box out Devin Thomas. Thomas has been up and down as of late and the deacons gonna need a big performance from him to get the W in their last home of the season. Pitt has many guys that can break out in Artis, Jeter, jones, & Nwanko. And Wake is going to also need a big performance for Codi -MM.

                                                      Wake seems to be at their best playing up tempo on the offensive end however the downside of that is they have to defend more. Pitt makes you work on offensive end and that could be a problem.

                                                      Ideally I want to like the home dog here catching 3 but Im not sure I do.

                                                      Every wake home conference game this year (besides UVA of course) has went over this number. I think w/ the improved passing of pitt leading to better shots against this weak defense, combined with Wake's ability to get second chance points & extra motivation of coming of bad loss while playing last home game, should push this game over the number of 139.

                                                      Leaning towards a play on the over at this point.

                                                      This is first game I looked at (got late start) but saw it was basically topic of thread so I'm gonna look elsewhere now.
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                                                      • GHSCREW
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-25-13
                                                        • 1644

                                                        #28
                                                        UConn +1.5
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                                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-17-07
                                                          • 52143

                                                          #29
                                                          Just say right now I might have a tough time passing the the 9 points w/ purdue
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by GHSCREW
                                                            UConn +1.5
                                                            Uconn has been very good late in games and more of a second half team imo. I think the best way to attack that game is to watch the 1H and this way if we don't like what we see early we didn't throw money away against SMU. But if we do we could get uconn down 5 or so the break and get a better number then.

                                                            Just a thought
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                                                            • survive
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-11
                                                              • 2388

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              Just say right now I might have a tough time passing the the 9 points w/ purdue
                                                              I had this line around 4/5. Not sure what's up with all these points
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                                                              • Louisvillekid1
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-17-07
                                                                • 52143

                                                                #32
                                                                Niagara has won 3 in a row and has week to prep for last game of reg season against Fairfield who has lost 11/12 inlcuding the 2 point home loss to the eagles 2 weeks back. Purples Eagles very young squad who's been improving and they can stroke the 3 ball, something that the stags don't defend very well.

                                                                hmmm...
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                                                                • GHSCREW
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-25-13
                                                                  • 1644

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                  Uconn has been very good late in games and more of a second half team imo. I think the best way to attack that game is to watch the 1H and this way if we don't like what we see early we didn't throw money away against SMU. But if we do we could get uconn down 5 or so the break and get a better number then.

                                                                  Just a thought
                                                                  interesting point. I already locked them in, but you do bring up a good argument into a 2nd H bet if its tempting enough
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                                                                  • chipshipley
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-18-14
                                                                    • 637

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i just took HOU 1h -3 and fg -5.5 large USF's leading scorer is suspended and they are 1-11 on the road
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                                                                    • PorkChop
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-18-08
                                                                      • 8193

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                      Niagara has won 3 in a row and has week to prep for last game of reg season against Fairfield who has lost 11/12 inlcuding the 2 point home loss to the eagles 2 weeks back. Purples Eagles very young squad who's been improving and they can stroke the 3 ball, something that the stags don't defend very well.

                                                                      hmmm...
                                                                      with you. Out of whole MAAC slate Niagara home laying 3 seems best bet. I would love Iona if they had anything to play for
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