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  • ZBOIZ
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    • 06-22-08
    • 21464

    #1
    NCAA and NIT Tournament RESEARCH!
    I will use this thread for a open discussion for both tournaments!


    Let's make money guys!
  • ZBOIZ
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    • 06-22-08
    • 21464

    #2
    Butler vs. LSU (leaning LSU)

    I will start off with this game basically because I'm a LSU fan! But with all honesty I don't gamble with my team for the hell of it I gamble with them when I see an advantage! First off I would like to start this thread off by letting you guys know that to DONT LISTEN TO ESPN! But anyway I like LSU in this matchup! People dont realize that most of this team was on the team when LSU reached the FINAL FOUR a couple years ago. This LSU team strives on defense and this Butler team plays slow and thats to LSU man to man pace. The only problem I can see for LSU is the BIG man in the paint for Butler but LSU is great rebounding team to counter the fact of the big man. I thought LSU would be atleast a 6 point fav. but I would love to take the small amount thats available!
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    • ZBOIZ
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      • 06-22-08
      • 21464

      #3
      Washington ST. vs. St. Mary (NIT LEANING UNDER)

      The spreads for this game is not out yet but when I seen this matchup the first thing that hit my mind was under! But like I said earlier the number is not out yet. If the number is 120 or higher I think the under is worth a look! I also think Washington St. can be a good dog in this spot.
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      • ZBOIZ
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        • 06-22-08
        • 21464

        #4
        Morgan St. vs. Oklahoma (Leaning Oklahoma -16.5)

        Has to be by far the weakest line out! Oklahoma will win in a route! Oklahoma is 3 notches above this team! Take my word on this one!
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        • ZBOIZ
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-22-08
          • 21464

          #5
          Tennessee vs. Oklahoma St (Leaning Tenn -2.5)

          I love Tennessee as a team. The fact that I follow the SEC I can tell you guys first hand that to DONT SLEEP ON THIS TEAM. All you here is the same teams over and over but I would'nt be suprise none at all if this team made it to the elite 8 or even the final 4! This Tennessee team is long and very athletic. I could see Tennessee by 10 in this one!
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          • ZBOIZ
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-22-08
            • 21464

            #6
            Cleveland St. vs. Wake Forest (Leaning Cleveland St. +8)

            This and Sienna is one of the upsets Im feeling in the tournament. WF to me is not that good of a team away from home. Most likely I will put a sprinkle on Cleve. ML and the spread. Also Cleveland St. beat Syracuse at Syracuse this year so why cant they cover the 8 on a neutral to WF!
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            • ACCBball
              SBR Sharp
              • 02-26-08
              • 264

              #7
              Dont know much about Morgan St, but I like the rest of your plays. i will probably take the over in Tenn instead of picking a winner, both teams like to run and Tenn can easily play the high temp game that OKIE st likes to play, they just need to hit their shots!!

              I think my one big play with be FSU -3 against Wisconsin. I just dont see how FSU can lose this game the way they have been playing and the matchups are great for FSU. Douglas is playing great, I like FSU to by by 7.
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              • brooks85
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-05-09
                • 44709

                #8
                FSU, Texas, Ohio St and Xavier
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                • ZBOIZ
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-22-08
                  • 21464

                  #9
                  Syracuse vs. Stephen F. Austin (ONLY -12)

                  What are you serious????????? I will be on Syracuse
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                  • brooks85
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 44709

                    #10
                    Ya whats up with that -12.5?
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                    • Lets_Get_Money
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-10-08
                      • 347

                      #11
                      the -12 got me a bit shook ... either the line is really soft or something is up.

                      I kinda Like Davisdon +3.5 vs South Carolina ... Gonna wait for the ML for that game to come out
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                      • ZBOIZ
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-22-08
                        • 21464

                        #12
                        UNLV vs. Kentucky (leaning UNLV +7) NIT

                        UNLV plus the seven points sounds good to me. Kentucky is riding of the name on there jersey. I also was impressed with there road victories. And on a brighter note I dont think Kentucky will be up for a NIT game.
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                        • MartinBlank
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-20-08
                          • 8382

                          #13
                          Tennessee in the Final Four? The same Tennessee team that got whacked by Temple?

                          The SEC sucked this year. Sucked bad.

                          I don't bet with emotion or my heart, but there is not one single position that Tennessee would have a decided advantage over Pitt.

                          Not one. You can't even create one.

                          You did this before with Pitt, when you "guaranteed" Thabeet and UConn would crush Pitt on the boards. And then Blair put up a 20/20 on Thabeet.

                          Pitt is a better rebounding team, better defensive team, and they turn the ball over far fewer times than Tennessee....while playing in the best conference in the country.

                          I am saving this thread because I want to re-visit this prediction after the weekend.
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                          • ZBOIZ
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-22-08
                            • 21464

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MartinBlank
                            Tennessee in the Final Four? The same Tennessee team that got whacked by Temple?

                            The SEC sucked this year. Sucked bad.

                            I don't bet with emotion or my heart, but there is not one single position that Tennessee would have a decided advantage over Pitt.

                            Not one. You can't even create one.

                            You did this before with Pitt, when you "guaranteed" Thabeet and UConn would crush Pitt on the boards. And then Blair put up a 20/20 on Thabeet.

                            Pitt is a better rebounding team, better defensive team, and they turn the ball over far fewer times than Tennessee....while playing in the best conference in the country.

                            I am saving this thread because I want to re-visit this prediction after the weekend.
                            Not one time did I say I predict them to be in the final four! But I would'nt be suprise if they made it
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                            • MartinBlank
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                              • 07-20-08
                              • 8382

                              #15
                              Okay, let me get this straight.....it wouldn't "surprise" you if Tennessee beat Pitt?

                              Because...and this may come as a shock to you....in order to get that far, they have to go through Pitt.

                              Now, back in a little town I like to call----reality, make a case for Tennessee beating Pitt not being a "shock"?
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                              • Lets_Get_Money
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-10-08
                                • 347

                                #16
                                North Carolina -26.5 (Big) and Over 163 (Bigger!)

                                Radford is 0-15 lifetime vs the ACC, In their 2 Step Games this season, they lost by 22 @ Wake and 35 @ West Va. Wake (they are a very immature team) was non-existent in the 1st 5 minutes vs Radford and Radford scored 6 garbage pts in the last 30 seconds.

                                Roy Williams is not gonna let that happen Ty and Crazy White guy are gonna pund all over them (home game) 163 is high number in college but ... this is a great number espically for Action betters, Radford is been averaging over 90 ppg the last 5 games or so and they've bene giving up close to 85 ppg during that time ... Carolina is gonna Put 115 on them, espically this being a Home Game.

                                If your book allows you Action betting, 168 is a nice number
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                                • ZBOIZ
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-22-08
                                  • 21464

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                  Okay, let me get this straight.....it wouldn't "surprise" you if Tennessee beat Pitt?

                                  Because...and this may come as a shock to you....in order to get that far, they have to go through Pitt.

                                  Now, back in a little town I like to call----reality, make a case for Tennessee beating Pitt not being a "shock"?

                                  I would'nt be shock at all
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                                  • ZBOIZ
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-22-08
                                    • 21464

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Lets_Get_Money
                                    North Carolina -26.5 (Big) and Over 163 (Bigger!)

                                    Radford is 0-15 lifetime vs the ACC, In their 2 Step Games this season, they lost by 22 @ Wake and 35 @ West Va. Wake (they are a very immature team) was non-existent in the 1st 5 minutes vs Radford and Radford scored 6 garbage pts in the last 30 seconds.

                                    Roy Williams is not gonna let that happen Ty and Crazy White guy are gonna pund all over them (home game) 163 is high number in college but ... this is a great number espically for Action betters, Radford is been averaging over 90 ppg the last 5 games or so and they've bene giving up close to 85 ppg during that time ... Carolina is gonna Put 115 on them, espically this being a Home Game.

                                    If your book allows you Action betting, 168 is a nice number

                                    I have to agree with you
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                                    • MartinBlank
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-20-08
                                      • 8382

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                      I would'nt be shock at all
                                      Not exactly what I asked.

                                      I asked you to make a case for Tennessee beating Pitt, i.e., where does Tennessee have an advantage over Pitt.

                                      Pitt rebounds much better than Tennessee
                                      Tennessee's team defense is ranked 241st, Pitt's "d" is ranked 7th.
                                      Pitt's turnover to assist ratio is 129 spots better than Tennessee
                                      Pitt has played a much tougher schedule.

                                      Go through both lineups, where is Tennessee better?
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                                      • jcomer_26
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-08-09
                                        • 4

                                        #20
                                        My thoughts on tennesse. You have a coach that is way too concerned about his image. You have a team that is way too concerned about themselves. They are about as selfish, undisciplined team that I think I have watched play this year from a big named conference. How they got a 9 seed is beyond me. They are athletic and that is about it. I'd like to see them get beat by Travis Ford and OK St, but I don't think it will happen.
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                                        • spongerat
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-01-08
                                          • 2023

                                          #21
                                          how about niagra -4.5 over RI?
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                                          • ACCBball
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-26-08
                                            • 264

                                            #22
                                            over over over

                                            Originally posted by Lets_Get_Money
                                            North Carolina -26.5 (Big) and Over 163 (Bigger!)

                                            Radford is 0-15 lifetime vs the ACC, In their 2 Step Games this season, they lost by 22 @ Wake and 35 @ West Va. Wake (they are a very immature team) was non-existent in the 1st 5 minutes vs Radford and Radford scored 6 garbage pts in the last 30 seconds.

                                            Roy Williams is not gonna let that happen Ty and Crazy White guy are gonna pund all over them (home game) 163 is high number in college but ... this is a great number espically for Action betters, Radford is been averaging over 90 ppg the last 5 games or so and they've bene giving up close to 85 ppg during that time ... Carolina is gonna Put 115 on them, espically this being a Home Game.

                                            If your book allows you Action betting, 168 is a nice number

                                            Whats an action bet? I am all over this over..UNC will put up 112 and their D once they get up big is pretty sad as expected. Radford can shoot, their numbers show that so I expect them to score at least 70. FSU and the over are going to be my two biggest plays of the first round.
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                                            • Axis
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-08-09
                                              • 1255

                                              #23
                                              I have a question for you all...

                                              This is the first year I will be betting on the NCAA Tourny games, generally I just do a bracket...

                                              Do most of you fill out your brackets with winners of the teams who you think will cover? or do you still pick teams to move on, but not cover (excluding the Obvious 16/1 15/2)

                                              Because over the last weeks of the season (including conf. tournys) the teams that I capped to cover while getting points...won straight up 85% of the time...

                                              So, what I'm really askign I guess is, if you cap a team to cover a spread, do you fill them in to win too?

                                              P.S. I only bet on games where the spread is -5 to +5

                                              I'll be making a thread for this too, but thought this was an apporpriate place to post this
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                                              • Lets_Get_Money
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 12-10-08
                                                • 347

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ACCBball
                                                Whats an action bet? I am all over this over..UNC will put up 112 and their D once they get up big is pretty sad as expected. Radford can shoot, their numbers show that so I expect them to score at least 70. FSU and the over are going to be my two biggest plays of the first round.
                                                This is what I got from DSI, I think the Total is gonna creep towards 180




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                                                • Boy Jeenyus
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                                                  • 08-29-08
                                                  • 159

                                                  #25
                                                  I'd like Siena a lot better if they weren't playing the Buckeyes in Dayton.
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                                                  • losturmarbles
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-01-08
                                                    • 4604

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Lets_Get_Money
                                                    North Carolina -26.5 (Big) and Over 163 (Bigger!)

                                                    Radford is 0-15 lifetime vs the ACC, In their 2 Step Games this season, they lost by 22 @ Wake and 35 @ West Va. Wake (they are a very immature team) was non-existent in the 1st 5 minutes vs Radford and Radford scored 6 garbage pts in the last 30 seconds.

                                                    Roy Williams is not gonna let that happen Ty and Crazy White guy are gonna pund all over them (home game) 163 is high number in college but ... this is a great number espically for Action betters, Radford is been averaging over 90 ppg the last 5 games or so and they've bene giving up close to 85 ppg during that time ... Carolina is gonna Put 115 on them, espically this being a Home Game.

                                                    If your book allows you Action betting, 168 is a nice number
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                                                    • VIPBookie
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 08-02-07
                                                      • 8

                                                      #27
                                                      My bets are on Pittsburgh, they have been having a pretty strong season, plus with the trio of star players that they have it' shard to deny that power of a team.

                                                      I found an interesting article about the top seeds of the tournament. Here is the link:

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