Am I crazy Min -1.5 ???????

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  • LVBOUND
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    • 07-25-08
    • 2658

    #1
    Am I crazy Min -1.5 ???????
    Guys,

    I need help here tell me what is wrong with this line.

    02/22/09 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncb/results/2008-2009/boxscore772776.html MIN -6 U 125.5 22/43 14/46 36-18 01/18/09 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncb/results/2008-2009/boxscore771179.html NWEST -1.5 O 123 22/46 25/53 25-26

    They split the season series with Min easily winning the last game???

    If Min was -6 last game and the won by 27 then the line should be at least Min -8 or -9 I would think.

    Maybe I am just crazy but I feel this is a easy pick at MIN -1.5.

    Min is better from the FT line better at Rebounding???

    The one loss they had to NW was at NW and after taking a lead into half this happened.

    They missed 12 of their first 13 shots in the half and
    watched as Northwestern scored 16 straight to take a 47-37
    lead. Moore hit three 3-pointers during that stretch,
    starting it with one and putting the Wildcats ahead 39-37
    with another one.

    So am I crazy or what I want to bet the house on this game.

    Matt
  • Vince Carter
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    • 02-15-09
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    #2
    and this is what you call a square
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    • 2daBank
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      • 01-26-09
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      #3
      why exactly do you give min win more meaning than nw win at home? just the fact that you think this line should be -8 should worry you. this nw team is much tougher than many people want to give them credit for. gl whateva you do but i dont think min is the team i would bet the house on
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      • LVBOUND
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        • 07-25-08
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        #4
        Hey Vince why would you consider this a bad bet?

        #1 Betting the fav is a bad bet
        #2 Taking time to research a game instead of betting with my gut?

        Shut the **** up, do some research be productive and come back when you can give a real reason Northwestern can win.

        Would love to side bet your ass to.

        Matt
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        • LVBOUND
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          #5
          Originally posted by 2daBank
          why exactly do you give min win more meaning than nw win at home? just the fact that you think this line should be -8 should worry you. this nw team is much tougher than many people want to give them credit for. gl whateva you do but i dont think min is the team i would bet the house on
          I don't give Min more meaning. I guess what I was saying there is the dominated from start to finish at home.

          They had a bad run 16-0 to start the second half at NW and lost. It was 4 or 5 late and fouls made it 10.

          I am just wondering why the line is like it is. How can a line be Min -6 then they win by 27 and then the line goes to -1.5. Just because its a neutral site????


          The line movement scares the hell out of me and that's why I am not betting much on it unless I get some good opinions from you guys or somebody else also sees the line as a mistake.



          Matt
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          • 2daBank
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            • 01-26-09
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            #6
            nw is 5-0ats last 5 as neutral site dogs, 4-1 ats last 5 against teams with win percent ov.600. min 1-5 ats as neutral site favs, 2-6 ats against teams .600 or better and 2-7 ats there last 9. i guess the best reason i can give you why the spread is what it is, is that if nw was getting 6 points i would be poundin the shit out of them and i doubt the books want that
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            • 2daBank
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              • 01-26-09
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              #7
              but gl whateva you decide as for me it either northwestern or no play
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              • DeluxeLiner
                SBR MVP
                • 01-29-08
                • 4132

                #8
                Originally posted by Vince Carter
                and this is what you call a square
                For someone who doesn't know squat about RLM in another thread I would suggest you shut it.


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                • LVBOUND
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                  • 07-25-08
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                  #9
                  NW 5-0 ats at neutral sites. LOL Who knows how old that is. They didnt play a neutral site game this year.

                  Anyways those numbers can be crazy I looked at covers.com and none of those numbers are right, but I am sure they are close to accurate.


                  We will see what happens, If I had to guess Min wins by 6 maybe as high as 10 if they foul late.


                  Matt
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                  • 2daBank
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                    • 01-26-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DeluxeLiner
                    For someone who doesn't know squat about RLM in another thread I would suggest you shut it.


                    ouch i just read the link
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                    • 2daBank
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                      • 01-26-09
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                      #11
                      speaking of rlm at the moment min is gettin pounded as you would expect with such a low line and like you said the A$$ whippin min gave nw fresh on every1s mind
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                      • LVBOUND
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                        • 07-25-08
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                        #12
                        Ok if this comment makes me a idiot so be it.

                        I look at this from a very basic point of view and try to block the numbers out, because they are messing with people on this one.

                        #1 Min is the better team talent wise by far.
                        #2 Min got upset as the #18 ranked team in the nation. Due to a second half collapse
                        #3 Min then made a point to spank NW when they came to MIN. Beating them by 27.

                        Min knows to loose this game most likely means the are out of the big dance.

                        Common sense should tell you guys Min will win.

                        So just trying to make some of you guys some money.

                        Matt
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                        • 2daBank
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                          • 01-26-09
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                          #13
                          talent mabey team no. i think nw feels same way about lose and not going to tourny that would big pretty big deal for team that hasnt been in quite a while. im sure that we can agree that alot of the higher up teams in big 10 that nw been beating and hangin with this year also had the edge talent wise , this is a team that beat mich st at there house purdue twice i think, ill, just played ohio st tough at there house.
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                          • LVBOUND
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                            • 07-25-08
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                            #14
                            Good points 2daBank at least you know your stuff. I appreciate that instead of kindergarten answers from Vince Carter.


                            Matt
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                            • 2daBank
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                              • 01-26-09
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                              #15
                              min had some good wins early in year and they may get in win or lose but they have fallen off in big ten play
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                              • 2daBank
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                                #16
                                no doubt my friend. love to talk shop
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                                • Vince Carter
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                                  • 02-15-09
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DeluxeLiner
                                  For someone who doesn't know squat about RLM in another thread I would suggest you shut it.


                                  uh huh...
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                                  • DeluxeLiner
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                                    • 01-29-08
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Vince Carter
                                    uh huh...
                                    lol
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                                    • Vince Carter
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                                      • 02-15-09
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                                      #19
                                      lol i don't get what knowing rlm has anything to do with this

                                      i knew the concept i just didn't know what it was called
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                                      • Hells Kitchen
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                                        • 02-11-09
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Vince Carter
                                        and this is what you call a square
                                        So i guess you are obtuse
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                                        • DeluxeLiner
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                                          • 01-29-08
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Vince Carter
                                          lol i don't get what knowing rlm has anything to do with this

                                          i knew the concept i just didn't know what it was called
                                          it's pretty sad you are calling people out when you need RLM explained to you. what you are doing is calling someone else a square when it is pretty obvious you are new too.

                                          looks like this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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                                          • thebestthereis
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                                            • 03-01-09
                                            • 11459

                                            #22
                                            if you look at the BODY of work this year by these two teams it is very similar. the fact that NW got buried in minny the last time isn't a big deal on paper but i think emotionally it is certainly in the minds of the NW kids. the line is right on (+/-) even though minny was -6 (due to their strong home court) the last time out. NW shoots the 3-ball well and minny does not - recently at least. i would lean towards NW not because of a sucker line or whatever, but i think they will want this one more and CAN beat and KNOW they can beat this minny team. just my two cents.
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                                            • lastinline
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                                              • 01-10-09
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                                              #23
                                              Gophers are a very good home team but away from home they should not be favored over most teams.
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                                              • icsky3
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                                                #24
                                                I can't pull the trigger just yet, but the movement on this line would tell you the "sharp" play is with NW. I think, though, this is one of those games where RLM or where the money is going doesn't matter. The better team wins here Minnesota -2.
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                                                • 2daBank
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                                                  • 01-26-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  here we go nw what a comeback lets keep it up nw
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                                                  • LVBOUND
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                                                    • 07-25-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    Well well well..........

                                                    I guess its HIP to be SQUARE!!!

                                                    Just like I said 5-6 point game that goes to 10 at the end because of free throws.


                                                    Sorry if you didn't jump on this.

                                                    Matt
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                                                    • 2daBank
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                                                      #27
                                                      good call lv it was over when the only player on nw that can score fouled out
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                                                      • LVBOUND
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                                                        • 07-25-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        Not that it matters but today has been good for me. I crushed another lock, I didn't have time to post it on the forum since I was driving. I looked at my phone and seen that Marq was down 16 at half. I then looked at the boxscore and it was obvious they were not getting dominated on the boards or anything, just missing shots. So it was lock city -3 in 2nd Half.

                                                        As I am posting this they are up by 1 with 1:30 to go, so slam dunk there.


                                                        any thoughts on 6 pm or later games? I am leaning towards Pitt -4.


                                                        Matt
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