1/2 NCAAB Thread

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 08:17 PM

I really like Syracuse. S Florida is horrible

TPowell · 01-01-09, 08:19 PM

yeah I want to play the USC/Oregon and Arizona/Cal games but they seem like toss ups to me. Arizona can't seem to get it done on the road but Cal is pretty bad IMO. Oregon isn't very good but USC is a complete mystery to me. Might just play Arizona State if I dont see anything else

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 08:20 PM

Portland St should win by at least 20

Clone Joint · 01-01-09, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Godzilla

Portland St should win by at least 20

I agree. Sac. State is a terrible team. In all 12 losses, they have lost by double digits. Portland State should win the big sky. Additionally, they have won (gonzaga) big games and lost close ones against good teams (Wash and baylor).

TPowell · 01-01-09, 08:28 PM

What about UCLA? They should win by at least 20 against Oregon State shouldn't they? Oregon State doesn't look like they got any better from last year. Small plays on Arizona and Santa Clara as well right now

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 08:33 PM

UCLA should but I trust Port St more.

I also love Dayton -9

TPowell · 01-01-09, 08:34 PM

anybody follow San Diego? Trumaine Johnson is back and they've beat Miss. State on the road in his first big game back. They also beat Oregon recently as well. They are -6 at home against Marshall

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 08:40 PM

Anyone know why E Washington (7-6) is +7.5 to N Arizona (a 3 win team)? Dont know too much about them.

TPowell · 01-01-09, 08:45 PM

will check it out next, Trumaine Johnson played 41 minutes and scored 17 points with 6 steals at Miss. State in his first or second game back. DeJon Jackson also recently returned and he played 24 points and scored 13 points. I'm upping San Diego to a 10 unit play.

15 Unit Play: Arizona State (PK)
5 Unit Play: Arizona (+3)
10 Unit Play: UCLA (-14.5)
5 Unit Play: Santa Clara (-3.5)
10 Unit Play: San Diego (-6)

Clone Joint · 01-01-09, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Godzilla

UCLA should but I trust Port St more.

I also love Dayton -9

The NCAA's 7th ranked defense against the 255th ranked offense. Not sure how you cant like that.

TPowell · 01-01-09, 08:51 PM

Eastern Washington does look like a great bet at +7.5 but it seems too fishy to me. Anybody else? Northern Arizona has beat Utah Valley State (by 1), Northern New Mexico, and Haskell. They lost to North Dakota State by 7 at home. Eastern Washington isn't a world beater but they won at UC Irvine, at Portland, and at home against Idaho and Texas-Arlington. Lost by double digits at Hawaii, Washington, Illinois, and Minnesota though. This game will be played at such a lower level that it won't matter though

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

will check it out next, Trumaine Johnson played 41 points and scored 17 points with 6 steals at Miss. State in his first or second game back. DeJon Jackson also recently returned and he played 24 points and scored 13 points. I'm upping San Diego to a 10 unit play.

15 Unit Play: Arizona State (PK)
5 Unit Play: Arizona (+3)
10 Unit Play: UCLA (-14.5)
5 Unit Play: Santa Clara (-3.5)
10 Unit Play: San Diego (-6)

I took your picks. Added Port St, Dayton, Long Beach St (risk here but UCSB never covers), and Eastern Washington +10 (added 2.5)

TPowell · 01-01-09, 08:53 PM

BOL, I'm not sure why Northern Arizona is this big of a favorite though, it just makes no sense. I know these kind of games can go any which way but I just dont understand

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Clone Joint

The NCAA's 7th ranked defense against the 255th ranked offense. Not sure how you cant like that.

Dayton point differential is +12.5
Toledo is -8.8 and they have won only 2 games. They give up 66.2 points a game, they are 7th?

Clone Joint · 01-01-09, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Godzilla

Dayton point differential is +12.5
Toledo is -8.8 and they have won only 2 games. They give up 66.2 points a game, they are 7th?

Dayton is 7th/6th ranked defense depending on where you look, giving up around 55 points a game. Toledo is the team with the bad offensive ranking.

Godzilla · 01-01-09, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Clone Joint

Dayton is 7th/6th ranked defense depending on where you look, giving up around 55 points a game. Toledo is the team with the bad offensive ranking.

So why do you think Dayton is a bad play at -9? They should kill Toledo.

TPowell · 01-01-09, 09:08 PM

Honestly I just dont trust Dayton to cover 9 points. I'd consider teasing it down if I played it.

Clone Joint · 01-01-09, 09:12 PM

God, was always in agreement with ya...in response to you loving dayton and me providing that information i said "not sure how you cant like that". Sorry for the confusion (rough night yesterday

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Godzilla · 01-01-09, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Clone Joint

God, was always in agreement with ya...in response to you loving dayton and me providing that information i said "not sure how you cant like that". Sorry for the confusion (rough night yesterday

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Oh my bad.....must have read it wrong...sorry

WestsidePete · 01-01-09, 10:09 PM

Also take a look at UC Riverside -4.5...

leans for me

USC -2.5
AZ St pk
UC Riverside -4.5
Syracuse -8.5
S Carolina +9 (Baylor's 3rd game in 5 days and feel S Carolina has the ability to match Baylor offensively to hang in there till the end)

ZXCVBNM · 01-01-09, 10:56 PM

Love Santa Clara over Harvard.. they have the experience against the better teams and hung tough. Better resume better record.

TPowell · 01-02-09, 12:44 AM

Pete I saw the Baylor game and was really hoping for a 4 or 5 point spread for some reason. If Clemson wouldnt have exposed South Carolina then we'd all be cashing tommorow. No play at 9 for me though.

Godzilla · 01-02-09, 01:00 AM

I think Baylor might smoke SC. I would stay away from it.

$Bnizi · 01-02-09, 02:02 AM

Leans...

Baylor -9
Dayton -9.5
Santa Clara -3
Cal -3
Syracuse -8
East Washington +7
Texas -23

Husker36 · 01-02-09, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

BIG GAMES:

USC (-2.5) at Oregon
South Carolina at Baylor (-9)
Arizona at Cal (-3)
Syracuse (-8.5) at South Florida
Arizona State at Stanford (PK)
UCLA (-14.5) at Oregon State

I'm not liking that you have picked all ROAD teams.

One thing I have noticed over the last 10 years. When a game is a PICK..... usually it looks like the road team is the play... but the home teams USUALLY wins. I bet if someone went back over the last 10 years the HOME team in a PICK game covers over 60% of the time. I wouldnt be suprised if it was over 70%.

TPowell · 01-02-09, 02:28 AM

I didnt pick all road teams, San Diego is at home. I didnt really notice taking 4 road teams to be honest. Who has Stanford really played when you take a look at Arizona State's schedule? I like how Arizona State has played a lot of neutral court games against solid teams and faired decently. Stanford is still unproven to me and that big win over TTech has them a little overrated in my eyes. I do agree with that scenario in general though.

TPowell · 01-02-09, 02:29 AM

oh by the way those werent my plays, I just put the lines for the biggest games on the card for tommorow, mine are in post 10, should change that I guess

Husker36 · 01-02-09, 03:05 AM

OH I see..... I thought those were your picks. I misunderstood.

And road teams DO win and COVER. It's just scary to play road teams...... that was my point.

TPowell · 01-02-09, 03:09 AM

yeah, I didnt even notice the 4 road teams, I've gotten kinda bad about playing road teams lately but I feel pretty good about this card. I dont mind playing road teams at all usually, double digit spreads are what scare me though. Very rare to see me playing one. I just think that UCLA should beat Oregon State by 20+ easy

WestsidePete · 01-02-09, 11:27 AM

Here's a ml parlay that pays +114
Dayton
Syracuse
San Diego

Not bad for this one.....

Husker36 · 01-02-09, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by WestsidePete

Here's a ml parlay that pays +114
Dayton
Syracuse
San Diego

Not bad for this one.....

Looks like a winner!

$Bnizi · 01-02-09, 02:57 PM

1*dayton -8.5 -108
1*syracuse -7 -103
1*santa clara -2 -105

1.5* ml parlay +108
syracuse
dayton
alabama (cfb)

TPowell · 01-02-09, 03:29 PM

UCLA (-9.5) and Eastern Washington (+12) is my teaser play of the day as well

keitht · 01-02-09, 04:48 PM

took this play

Originally posted by WestsidePete

Here's a ml parlay that pays +114
Dayton
Syracuse
San Diego

Not bad for this one.....

seems to be good value... put $143- 177... lets get this.gl