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  • WestsidePete
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-19-07
    • 8049

    #491
    my thoughts exactly on nevada flav....I wish that game was in an hour not in 13 hours...Nevada is much better than Hawaii who does lose to good fundamental teams..such as getting a beat down by Boise St at home
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    • flavo-ice
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-20-08
      • 225

      #492
      Wow, here's something to look at. Why is Montana, 2nd place in the Big Sky and one of the best defensive teams in conference, a 3 point dog at Northern Arizona, who is 1 rung up the ladder from Sac. St.?

      This seems like a trapper's delight to me. This line is just begging to have people unload on Montana.
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      • WestsidePete
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-19-07
        • 8049

        #493
        Originally posted by flavo-ice
        Wow, here's something to look at. Why is Montana, 2nd place in the Big Sky and one of the best defensive teams in conference, a 3 point dog at Northern Arizona, who is 1 rung up the ladder from Sac. St.?

        This seems like a trapper's delight to me. This line is just begging to have people unload on Montana.

        I'm going to look at this one....totally agree
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        • WestsidePete
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-19-07
          • 8049

          #494
          Adding this ml parlay -167 for a unit
          UConn
          Texas
          Tenn
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          • flavo-ice
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-20-08
            • 225

            #495
            Here are some others that caught my attention I am looking further into.

            -South Carolina(One of the best teams in the SEC)

            -Vanderbilt(10 may be an inflated line for Tenn to cover due to 30 point beat down they gave Georgia last Wednesday. Vandy is not Georgia.)

            -Florida(Need to think about this one as 10 is a lot to cover on the road, but UGA is putrid. All depends on what kind of start UGA gets off to. If they get down early they will give up and it will be a blowout. But being homecourt they may just stay in the game).

            -Texas

            -Air Force(19 1/2 is a ridiculous number to cover against an Air Force team that shortens the game and minimizes possessions. If Utah gets in control of this one hard to see them blowing it out 2h versus just playing out the string where AF backdoors the line in the last 5-7 minutes.

            -Denver(This team is schizo. They have been dominating at home but yet they can't win on the road, with the longest D-1 losing road streak at like 30 or 40 games. 8.5 is a lot to lay, so may be a play here).

            -Rice
            -Princeton(Got their butts handed to them by Yale last night, but today they get a chance at redemption against a Brown team they should take it out on.)

            -Northern Iowa(line looks trappish but UNI just finds a way to win the game. They need this W to stay on top in the conference standings and they were finally beaten 2 games ago, the pressure of the win streak is off, and they responded last game by blowing out their opponent. It was too much pressure with that 13 game win streak).

            -Pepperdine(I've been playing these guys the past couple of weeks. They are getting better every week, and now have straight up wins against San Francisco and Santa Clara, both as good size dogs. Same deal here today, dog at home who I think at least covers if not wins straight up. San Diego just lost to Marymount, and isn't that good to begin with. This line is off and only because of perceptions. Obviously Pepperdine won't be the sexy pick and seems like a huge risk, but I think it could be one of the best plays of the day.)

            -Portland(they just drilled St. Mary's, so I assume payback is awaiting, but 9 points is a lot to a Portland team that imo is the 2nd best in the conference behind Gonzaga. I know Mary's probably wants to atone for their beatdown at the hands of Portland right after losing Mills, but Mary's just had a huge home game against the Zags and just fell short. Not sure if they can get up like that again 2 days after that game.

            -Florida Atlantic(another unpopular no name brand pick, but although FAU is putrid they've got guards, 1 in particular, that can score like crazy. I have to look more into S.Alabama, but 9 1/2 is alot to give this FAU team that can score.
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            • WestsidePete
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-19-07
              • 8049

              #496
              good stuff flav....am i seeing this right?? most of the money is on Purdue but they have dropped from -6.5 to -5 correct??
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              • WestsidePete
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-19-07
                • 8049

                #497
                second ml parlay -172 to win one unit
                UTEP
                LSU
                Miami-Ohio
                Austin Peay
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                • WestsidePete
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-19-07
                  • 8049

                  #498
                  adding...
                  Miss St +3.5 one unit
                  UCF ml -120 one unit
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                  • curious
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-20-07
                    • 9093

                    #499
                    Originally posted by flavo-ice
                    Wow, here's something to look at. Why is Montana, 2nd place in the Big Sky and one of the best defensive teams in conference, a 3 point dog at Northern Arizona, who is 1 rung up the ladder from Sac. St.?

                    This seems like a trapper's delight to me. This line is just begging to have people unload on Montana.
                    The value line on Montana is -116. Montana is a play. I would take them on the money line and 2X on the spread.
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                    • curious
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-20-07
                      • 9093

                      #500
                      Florida Atlantic

                      Florida Atlantic line is inflated. Should be somewhere around +195. South Alabama has a hard time covering big spreads. And they are schizophrenic. So it depends on which South Alabama team shows up. Florida Atlantic likes to surprise people. I think this is a good pay + the points.
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                      • WestsidePete
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-19-07
                        • 8049

                        #501
                        adding 1.5 units on Portland +9
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                        • WestsidePete
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-19-07
                          • 8049

                          #502
                          adding Nevada ML -130 for 1.5 units....last play tonite GL guys
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                          • hi-rez
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-19-07
                            • 1298

                            #503
                            Originally posted by curious
                            The value line on Montana is -116. Montana is a play. I would take them on the money line and 2X on the spread.
                            Thanks for the heads up on Montana
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                            • WestsidePete
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-19-07
                              • 8049

                              #504
                              ended up having a good night record wise but didn't win that much...but I'll take it.....went 7-3 on sides with one push....2-1 ml parlays for +1.2 units overall...

                              2009 YTD +17.33 units
                              204-140 sides
                              12-12 ml parlays
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                              • walbjj
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 10-28-08
                                • 105

                                #505
                                any leans pete?
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                                • WestsidePete
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-19-07
                                  • 8049

                                  #506
                                  leans so far for Sunday.... Duquesne +1....actually have booked this one already....still looking at others...I think this is the best one today
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                                  • curious
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 07-20-07
                                    • 9093

                                    #507
                                    Illinois -675 20.25 to win 3
                                    Clemson -365 10.95 to win 3
                                    Butler -2650 79.5 to win 3
                                    Buffalo -200 6 to win 3
                                    South Florida +13 1/2 -110 3.3 to win 3
                                    Akron -695 20.95 to win 3
                                    Drexel -550 17.5 to win 3
                                    Northwestern -180 5.4 to win 3
                                    Illinois Chicago -103 3.09 to win 3
                                    Duke -310 9.3 to win 3
                                    Bowling Green -1050 31.5 to win 3
                                    Illinois State +3 -140 4.2 to win 3
                                    Miami Florida +8 1/2 -110 3.3 to win 3
                                    Arizona State -305 9.15 to win 3
                                    Rider +3 -131 3.93 to win 3
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                                    • WestsidePete
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-19-07
                                      • 8049

                                      #508
                                      Sunday Feb 15 plays

                                      two units
                                      Duquense +1 LOSS

                                      1.5 units
                                      Notre Dame -12.5 (bought 1) LOSS

                                      one unit
                                      Indiana +11 LOSS
                                      Michigan +5 WIN
                                      Louisville -19.5 (bought 2) WIN
                                      BC +8.5 (bought 1) WIN
                                      Ill St +1 WIN
                                      Miami +8.5 WIN
                                      USC +8 (bought 1) LOSS

                                      1/2 unit
                                      Illinois/Indiana under 124 WIN

                                      2 team ml parlay -160 one unit LOSS
                                      Clemson
                                      UNC
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                                      • WestsidePete
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-19-07
                                        • 8049

                                        #509
                                        taking dogs the rest of the day....one unit each

                                        BC +8.5
                                        Ill St +1
                                        Miami +8.5
                                        USC +8
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                                        • OC
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 136

                                          #510
                                          GL Pete. Talk about a tailspin for me. Went 1 and 9 yesterday losing with Purdue (by 2), Uconn (by 1 1/2) Syr (by 1/2) Nev (by 1) Baylor (by 1 1/2) Prov (by 1 1/2) Cinci (by 1/2) etc. Talk about snake bit.

                                          Had Duq, Buf, ND, Clem, and Ill early. 1-4 WTF. On the Dukies right now and probably go with Mia and USC. I'm leaning Drake so you should be good with ISU. Thanks for letting me vent in your thread.
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                                          • curious
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 07-20-07
                                            • 9093

                                            #511
                                            A halftime edge I found

                                            I've been trying to learn how to hedge game plays with halftime plays. It has been tough, but I think I found something finally.

                                            If a team is behind at the half and the 2H line is minus the points then take that team on the money line. For the last several days this has hit at an amazing clip.

                                            It is working so well I am considering doing it exclusively.
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                                            • WestsidePete
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-19-07
                                              • 8049

                                              #512
                                              Originally posted by WestsidePete
                                              taking dogs the rest of the day....one unit each

                                              BC +8.5
                                              Ill St +1
                                              Miami +8.5
                                              USC +8

                                              First three dogs have cashed.....just one more play with USC for the night...
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                                              • WestsidePete
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-19-07
                                                • 8049

                                                #513
                                                ended up going 6-4 on side and 0-1 ml parlay....ended up making nothing though with the parlay losing...

                                                2009 YTD +17.33
                                                210-144 sides
                                                12-13 ml parlays
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                                                • google99
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-08-09
                                                  • 592

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by curious
                                                  I've been trying to learn how to hedge game plays with halftime plays. It has been tough, but I think I found something finally.

                                                  If a team is behind at the half and the 2H line is minus the points then take that team on the money line. For the last several days this has hit at an amazing clip.

                                                  It is working so well I am considering doing it exclusively.

                                                  I'm always curious which book do you use that allow you moneyline for 2nd half...most books i've used only allow spread points
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                                                  • WestsidePete
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-19-07
                                                    • 8049

                                                    #515
                                                    Plays for Monday Feb 16....First off I think we'll see how Dyson will be missed tonite for UConn. He wasn't needed last game but may be the difference here, as I think Pitt can win. Blair avg's 5.8 offensive boards per game...#1 in the country and should be able to neutralize Thabeet's dominance in the middle...foul trouble, guard play and how each team shoots from the outside will determain today's winner. I also like Texas A&M to win at home....something is wrong with how Texas closes games...had a good lead vs both Mizzo and Nebraska and lose and almost the same thing vs Colorado...now they are at their in state rival who needs this game bad and are 13-2 at home. Finally I like App St at home...they have been outscored 60-4 off of turnovers the past two games...28 to's last game alone...incredible numbers but only lost by 5 in each game as they shot over 50% and are the #1 rebounding team in their league...I think they can pull it together and come away with a win at home in this one.


                                                    one unit each
                                                    Pitt +3 WIN
                                                    Texas A&M +2 WIN
                                                    App St +1 LOSS
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                                                    • WestsidePete
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-19-07
                                                      • 8049

                                                      #516
                                                      Ended up 2-1 today...if only Appt St didn't give up that 3 at the end...but Pitt and Texas A&M came thru...+0.9 unit today

                                                      2009 YTD +18.23 units
                                                      212-145 sides
                                                      12-13 ml parlays
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                                                      • MrMonkey
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-09-08
                                                        • 2278

                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by WestsidePete
                                                        Ended up 2-1 today...if only Appt St didn't give up that 3 at the end...but Pitt and Texas A&M came thru...+0.9 unit today

                                                        2009 YTD +18.23 units
                                                        212-145 sides
                                                        12-13 ml parlays
                                                        Pete, if I could go 2-1 five nights a week I be very happy. Good job my friend! Leaning MichSt. +3 if Morgan plays? Kentucky also but think they need Patterson this game? Any early opinions? Thanks!

                                                        MrMonkey
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                                                        • WestsidePete
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 07-19-07
                                                          • 8049

                                                          #518
                                                          Originally posted by MrMonkey
                                                          Pete, if I could go 2-1 five nights a week I be very happy. Good job my friend! Leaning MichSt. +3 if Morgan plays? Kentucky also but think they need Patterson this game? Any early opinions? Thanks!

                                                          MrMonkey

                                                          I was leaning Mich St immediately..but now not so sure...will look a little longer at the game...maybe Hummel 100% healthy....Morgan not?? changes everything if that's the case...same thing with Kentucky...they need Patterson...strong leans on Bradley -6.5 and Ohio +6.5
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                                                          • WestsidePete
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-19-07
                                                            • 8049

                                                            #519
                                                            Plays for Tuesday Feb 17...first off since I'm no longer playing teaser I will buy pts on plays....I know this isn't very popular but I have cashed several plays in the last week alone by doing this...the strongest play today without buying pts IMO is the Purdue ML ...Hummel has said he is now near 100% so I'd think a better game is coming at home tonite from him, if not shooting at least rebounding for sure...Morgan is not at full strength but will play...Purdue's defense is very solid and at home here I think they can win.

                                                            One unit each
                                                            Purdue ml -140 WIN
                                                            Austin Peay ml -120 WIN
                                                            Ohio +8 (bought 1.5) LOSS
                                                            Bradley -6 (bought 1) WIN
                                                            Clemson -8 (bought 2.5) WIN
                                                            New Mexico +7 LOSS
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                                                            • junkman773
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 02-04-08
                                                              • 1316

                                                              #520
                                                              BOL Pete really like the ML plays
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                                                              • WestsidePete
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-19-07
                                                                • 8049

                                                                #521
                                                                Adding one late play with New Mexico +7 for a unit
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                                                                • WestsidePete
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-19-07
                                                                  • 8049

                                                                  #522
                                                                  Bradley cashes....4-1 so far....hopefuly New Mexico shows up to finish the night off right...
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                                                                  • WestsidePete
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-19-07
                                                                    • 8049

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Ended up 4-2 on sides today for +1.6 units...

                                                                    2009 YTD +19.83 units
                                                                    216-147 sides 59.5 % winners
                                                                    12-13 ml parlays
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                                                                    • WestsidePete
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-19-07
                                                                      • 8049

                                                                      #524
                                                                      early leans for Wednesday....

                                                                      Miami-Ohio +3
                                                                      Houston -5.5
                                                                      Penn St +9.5
                                                                      Miss St -2.5
                                                                      Notre Dame +9
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                                                                      • WestsidePete
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 07-19-07
                                                                        • 8049

                                                                        #525
                                                                        My strongest play is Miami-Ohio
                                                                        and have already booked a unit at +3

                                                                        They have already beat Akron at home by 13 and outrebounded them 46-31..through 11 conf games Akron gets outrebounded by 2 boards a game...even at home they get outrebounded...while the opposite for Miami where they outrebound opps by 4 a game..and an the edge on the road as well....offensive/defensive stats matchup very similiar for each team...so I like the rebounding advantage here and for Miami-Oh to steal a win or a close cover
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