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  • WestsidePete
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-19-07
    • 8049

    #456
    Originally posted by OC
    After the Wake debacle not a bad day Pete. I wager WAY too many games but that is how I roll. Ended up winning the last 7 to have a decent day (up 4+ units but still chasing 2 units this week). Keep pushin' it man. I'm usually on the same side as most of your games.
    Absolutely friggin love your three earlies for tomorrow. ND? I'll probably play them and kick myself after but you're right, everyone and their next of kin will be on Louisville. Think the Irish get it done. Hell, I've lost enough on their slide although I had UCLA in their last game. Time for a payback.

    Remember...AZ St shut UCLA down offensively..the last team to do that...I believe no FG's made for a 13 min stretch...I hope ND can get up to +4 ...that will be enough I think...I know, doesn't look like a great play but they are at home getting pts...otherwise I wouldn't play it...
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    • OC
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-05-09
      • 136

      #457
      Originally posted by WestsidePete
      Remember...AZ St shut UCLA down offensively..the last team to do that...I believe no FG's made for a 13 min stretch...I hope ND can get up to +4 ...that will be enough I think...I know, doesn't look like a great play but they are at home getting pts...otherwise I wouldn't play it...
      Spoken like a very wise man (me) in their last 2 losses at home. I'm a friggin glutton for ND punishment so I'll (cough) cautiously approach this game.
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      • redbull
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-11-09
        • 391

        #458
        ok pete. just fun bet at hdcp -6 , and small bet at over 127. ty
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        • flavo-ice
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-20-08
          • 225

          #459
          ND just hit 4.
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          • WestsidePete
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-19-07
            • 8049

            #460
            Originally posted by flavo-ice
            ND just hit 4.

            Thx...saw that as well and took it
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            • WestsidePete
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-19-07
              • 8049

              #461
              Plays for Thursday...the main one is Gonzaga. I've seen both these teams several times and won a lot with St Mary's when Patty Mills was healthy. His injury is huge...they were rolling at Gonzaga until his injury, and things went bad fast. They covered late in that one but that was because the line was 10. Since that game St Mary's has lost 2 of 3...both by 18 pts when they were favs in each one. I just don't see how they can win today. Also, Notre Dame all factors against them, but one fact still remains they could have and should have won the first meeting on the road between these teams. At home, plus pts...I'll take it. Also, look at Golden St guys...Someone posted in another thread that the opening line was +1 for them last night and moved to -2 immediately...it's now -3...I took it at -2 and bought a pt for -1 and put 2 units on it. Also, George Mason..look at my writeup earlier in the thread ...I think this is an excellent spot for them and they have been golden on the road going 6-2 ATS so far this year.


              3 units
              Gonzaga -3.5 (bought 1/2) LOSS ***FUKK YOU AND YOUR MISSED FT'S!!!***

              two units
              Arizona -2 (bought 1/2) WIN

              one unit
              George Mason -5.5 (bought 1/2) LOSS
              St Joes -1.5 LOSS
              Notre Dame +4 WIN
              Northwestern +3 sec h LOSS

              3 team ml parlay -106 one unit WIN
              Davidson
              Tenn Martin
              Gonzaga

              NBA play
              Golden St -1 (bought 1) 2 units WIN
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              • OC
                SBR High Roller
                • 01-05-09
                • 136

                #462
                Certainly not trying to change your mind Pete as this is more of a hunch. Irish absolutely should have beaten Louisville earlier in the year. They seem like a completely different team now since their first home loss to Connecticut on 1/24. Then another to Marquette at home and they were in a tailspin. Swagger is gone, Harongody is pressing as no one else steps up. McAlarney not hitting 3's or any other shots for that matter. At this point, they are playing not to lose rather than to win as was evidence against Pitt and Cinci. The UCLA game? They never had a chance. I may sit this one out as I am actually still liking ND, even with all of my reasons not to. BOL on the rest of the card as well. As usual we're on the same sides.
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                • WestsidePete
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-19-07
                  • 8049

                  #463
                  Thx OC....ND probably losses but IMO the only play is either them or nothing...I backed off AZ St for now as I like Arizona to beat USC at home as a better play...but won't make a final decision until much later on either Arizona games...and will probably add the over in the Utah St/Idaho game...
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                  • junkman773
                    Restricted User
                    • 02-04-08
                    • 1316

                    #464
                    Good Luck Pete like the Gonzaga
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                    • WestsidePete
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-19-07
                      • 8049

                      #465
                      One more play....added Arizona -2 (bought 1/2) for two units...the more I look at it the more I like it...and I'm saying away from UCLA/AZ St...
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                      • WestsidePete
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-19-07
                        • 8049

                        #466
                        adding a unit on NWestern +3 sec h....
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                        • WestsidePete
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-19-07
                          • 8049

                          #467
                          So let's see...my first 3 picks....St Joes...GMason...Notre Dame...and ND is the one winner???
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                          • WestsidePete
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-19-07
                            • 8049

                            #468
                            FUKK ZAGA .....that 3 and 5 missed ft's in the last minute unfukking real...could have had a huge day if they covered and if NWestern could have covered the sec half....oh well...ended up 3-4 on sides...1-0 ml parlay and down 1.1 unit today


                            2009 YTD +14.33 units
                            195-135 sides 59.1% winners
                            10-11 ml parlays
                            21-31 teasers


                            on to tomorrow....
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                            • WestsidePete
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-19-07
                              • 8049

                              #469
                              Well ...what can fukking happen on Friday the 13th?? god damn you know some crazy shiiit will happen that's what....so far I've got West Virginia -2 (bought 2)...will write up later about it...looking at others...would like to find two more and that's it....
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                              • OC
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-05-09
                                • 136

                                #470
                                We're screwed WSP, I'm heavy on WV too. I'll pass on the night so you can win
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                                • MrMonkey
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-09-08
                                  • 2278

                                  #471
                                  Good luck Pete! I look for insight from you, TPowell, and you buddy Sportsguy who I miss! Did you know him personally?

                                  MrMonkey
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                                  • WestsidePete
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-19-07
                                    • 8049

                                    #472
                                    Originally posted by MrMonkey
                                    Good luck Pete! I look for insight from you, TPowell, and you buddy Sportsguy who I miss! Did you know him personally?

                                    MrMonkey

                                    No didn't know him personally but sportsguy was great...he came on board last year always open to hearing what others had to say and he knew his stuff....
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                                    • WestsidePete
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-19-07
                                      • 8049

                                      #473
                                      Man...the past two days have been frustrating but playing just a couple tomorrow may be what we need....
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                                      • OC
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 136

                                        #474
                                        Sorry to add one more Pete but thought it might be appropriate for today (yesterday) from Vegas Vacation: "Why don't you give me half the money, we'll go out back, I'll kick you in the nuts and we'll call it a day." GL Friday and the weekend.
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                                        • WestsidePete
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-19-07
                                          • 8049

                                          #475
                                          Dwyane Anderson is questionable for tonite's game....
                                          Nova's Anderson has bone bruise

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                                          Associated Press

                                          VILLANOVA, Pa. -- Villanova forward Dwyane Anderson has a bone bruise and a hyperextended left knee and is questionable for the No. 13 Wildcats' game against West Virginia.
                                          Anderson, who averages 7.5 points and 5.6 rebounds for the Wildcats, was hurt in Tuesday's win over Marquette. He was injured early in the second half and did not return.
                                          Villanova (20-4 overall, 8-3 Big East) has a six-game winning streak going into Friday night's game against the Mountaineers (16-8 overall, 5-6 Big East).
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                                          • WestsidePete
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-19-07
                                            • 8049

                                            #476
                                            Friday the 13th plays...

                                            3 units
                                            West Virginia -2 (bought 2) WIN

                                            2 units
                                            Cornell -14.5 WIN

                                            1 unit
                                            Rider -9.5 LOSS
                                            Brown ml -130 LOSS

                                            3 team teaser one unit LOSS
                                            Cornell -7.5
                                            Rider -3
                                            Ill Chicago +19.5
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                                            • flavo-ice
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-20-08
                                              • 225

                                              #477
                                              Pete-
                                              What resources are you using to research/cap Ivy league games? I typically avoid these as I feel like I'm throwing at a dart board when picking a side to play. Ivy league is just a different animal than the rest of D-1 hoops.
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                                              • WestsidePete
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-19-07
                                                • 8049

                                                #478
                                                Originally posted by flavo-ice
                                                Pete-
                                                What resources are you using to research/cap Ivy league games? I typically avoid these as I feel like I'm throwing at a dart board when picking a side to play. Ivy league is just a different animal than the rest of D-1 hoops.

                                                I go to their college sites or find links to anything written locally in their area...and look at numbers....I mostly don't play Ivy league games myself....
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                                                • awhitejackson
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-15-07
                                                  • 2265

                                                  #479
                                                  With you on WVU (-4), Rider and Brown...I think we all need a big night after last nights disaster...That Gonzaga game could have kept my losses minimal but the ending was really fukked...Oh well onto tonite
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                                                  • WestsidePete
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-19-07
                                                    • 8049

                                                    #480
                                                    Well...both big ones came thru with West Virginia and Cornell....ended up 2-2 on sides 0-1 on teaser but +1.8 units on the day.. after going 21-32 on teasers since January 1, I will no longer play them..killing my profit but will continue with ml parlays...


                                                    2009 YTD +16.13 units
                                                    197-137 sides 59.0 % winners
                                                    10-11 ml parlays
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                                                    • curious
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 07-20-07
                                                      • 9093

                                                      #481
                                                      Lines that I believe are off

                                                      Montana State -6. I'm not saying that Montana State is a top tier team. But only spotting Sac State 6 points? The line should be more like -11.

                                                      La Salle vs St. Joes. La Salle has been really tough lately. I figure they should be a fav playing at home. Instead they are getting 6 1/2 points.

                                                      I'll post some more of these tomorrow, but these two stuck out.
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                                                      • WestsidePete
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-19-07
                                                        • 8049

                                                        #482
                                                        Originally posted by curious
                                                        Montana State -6. I'm not saying that Montana State is a top tier team. But only spotting Sac State 6 points? The line should be more like -11.

                                                        La Salle vs St. Joes. La Salle has been really tough lately. I figure they should be a fav playing at home. Instead they are getting 6 1/2 points.

                                                        I'll post some more of these tomorrow, but these two stuck out.

                                                        Thx curious...good to see you haven't left....early money on La Salle..why?? Mbala is out...La Salle's 3rd leading scorer and leading rebounder??
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                                                        • WestsidePete
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 07-19-07
                                                          • 8049

                                                          #483
                                                          Plays for Saturday February 14...will add more thru out the day

                                                          Two units
                                                          Georgia Tech one -1.5 and one -3.5 LOSS

                                                          1.5 units
                                                          Baylor ml -230 WIN
                                                          Nevada ml -130 WIN
                                                          Portland +9 LOSS

                                                          one unit
                                                          Syracuse -3.5 (bought 1) WIN
                                                          Baylor -3.5 (bought 1) WIN
                                                          Wake Forrest -7.5 (bought 1) WIN
                                                          Alabama +2 PUSH
                                                          Miss St +3.5 LOSS
                                                          UCF ml -120 WIN
                                                          Ohio St/Wisc under 129 WIN

                                                          3 team ml parlay -167 one unit WIN
                                                          UConn
                                                          Texas
                                                          Tenn

                                                          4 team ml parlay -172 to win one unit LOSS
                                                          UTEP
                                                          LSU
                                                          Miami-Ohio
                                                          Austin Peay

                                                          2 team ml parlay -303 to win 1/2 unit WIN
                                                          UTEP
                                                          New Mexico St
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                                                          • WestsidePete
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-19-07
                                                            • 8049

                                                            #484
                                                            leans ....
                                                            UCF +2
                                                            Nevada -2

                                                            3 team ml parlay
                                                            UCONN
                                                            MISSOURI
                                                            TEXAS
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                                                            • OC
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 136

                                                              #485
                                                              Checkin out the card Pete ... looks solid right now. Had Butler, WV and the over, and a stupid flyer on Loyola Chicago yesterday. Eased the pain from Thurs a little. Nice day. Thanks for makin me think a bit about WV. Almost had a no play on that. Nova was never an option.
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                                                              • curious
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 07-20-07
                                                                • 9093

                                                                #486
                                                                Favs where there is large value in the line

                                                                I find value by calculating what the line should be then comparing that to the lines that are being offered. These favs have value in their lines because the actual line is better than the value line I calculated. I filtered this list for teams that have a win probability >= 80%. These are sorted by the % found by dividing the delta between the actual line and the value line by the value line, in other words the % of how much better the actual line is. I love Utah State here because the win probability is very high, Utah State is a great team and there is large value in the line.

                                                                utah st. -170
                                                                brigham young -300
                                                                davidson -2400 Win
                                                                arkansas little rock -185
                                                                montana st. -250
                                                                kentucky -185 Win
                                                                memphis -900
                                                                santa clara -820
                                                                gonzaga -2000
                                                                purdue -220 Win
                                                                connecticut -500 Win
                                                                florida -550 Lost
                                                                niagara -220
                                                                texas -700 Win
                                                                san diego -260
                                                                wright st. -800
                                                                utah -3300 Win
                                                                miami oh -700
                                                                washington st. -750

                                                                I don't lay points so I am playing all these on the money line. I have also found that buying 3 points or using teams like these in teasers works well. Also money line parlays work well.
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                                                                • curious
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 07-20-07
                                                                  • 9093

                                                                  #487
                                                                  big dogs where there is large value in the line

                                                                  I filtered this list with pythag >= .5. Top tier teams have a pythag >= .8 and scrub teams have a pythag <= .3. Teams above .5 are usually pretty decent. Getting a line with large value in it on a team like this is usually a pretty sweet deal. These are sorted by how much the line is bigger than it should be. For example, St John's should be +700 but they are +1400.

                                                                  I always play these on the money line with the a 2X hedge on the spread.

                                                                  st. john's 1400
                                                                  texas tech 1440 Loss
                                                                  cincinnati 1300 Covered
                                                                  mississippi 620
                                                                  rutgers 570
                                                                  st. louis 550 Covered
                                                                  iowa st. 470 Loss
                                                                  vanderbilt 470 Loss
                                                                  nebraska 570 Loss
                                                                  richmond 400
                                                                  portland 400
                                                                  florida st. 350 Loss
                                                                  wisconsin green bay 248
                                                                  evansville 215 Loss
                                                                  ohio st. 220
                                                                  la salle 215 Win
                                                                  stanford 228
                                                                  northeastern 214 Loss
                                                                  oregon st. 620
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                                                                  • curious
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 07-20-07
                                                                    • 9093

                                                                    #488
                                                                    dogs that should be favs

                                                                    This category has done very well this year. These are teams that should be laying points but instead are getting points. The win probability for these are all > 50%. The pythag for these are mostly >.75, There is one .6 and one .5.

                                                                    virginia commonwealth +100 -259 Loss
                                                                    georgetown +175 -153 Covered
                                                                    wisconsin milwaukee +101 -196
                                                                    minnesota +125 -163 Loss
                                                                    north carolina st. +155 -131 Win
                                                                    portland st. +118 -134
                                                                    virginia tech +145 -102 Loss
                                                                    mississippi st. +115 -122 Loss

                                                                    The first number is the actual line, the second number is the value line. The best value in this group is VCU, they should be a fav of -259, but instead are a dog of +100.
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                                                                    • WestsidePete
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-19-07
                                                                      • 8049

                                                                      #489
                                                                      thx curious....like VCU a lot here and on the ml plays I already had some strong leans...time to get back into the ml parlay business on those as well
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                                                                      • flavo-ice
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 12-20-08
                                                                        • 225

                                                                        #490
                                                                        Pete-
                                                                        I like Nevada stood out to you. The better teams in that conference typically take care of business against Hawaii @ Hawaii this year. IMHO Hawaii is not a good fundamental team, and teams that play together usually dismantle them. Playground games Hawaii can win all day long.

                                                                        Given the recent blowouts Hawaii has had at home against fresno and idaho, I think there is great value in this line for Nevada. Hawaii at home catching points should have people all over Hawaii given their recent blowouts.

                                                                        Curious-
                                                                        I have been following Sac. St. for a little while now as I took them against Portland st. and also had under in the game against Montana. I did a little reading, and the reason why the line for Montana St. is only 6 is because Montana st. typically doesn't play well at Sacramento.

                                                                        Montanta st. just lost to N.Arizona on the road(another cellar dweller) and now goes to Sacramento, where they have dropped 2 straight and 8 of their last 9. It appears Sacramento has their number at home.

                                                                        I actually am thinking about Sac here. Montana st. is the 2nd worst FT shooting team in conference(65%), which is not good for covering down the stretch if the game is close. Also Sacramento St. the last 2 games has employed a slow down strategy(against Port. St. & Mont. St.) in order to shorten the game and limit possessions for the opponent, as they knew they were outmatched. It worked for a little while against Port, but it worked most of the game against Montana as they were in that game almost to the end.

                                                                        What I took away from that info was to play under on the last Sac. St. game which hit easily. I suspect probably a similiar strategy today from Sac. St. and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them win this game SU or if not then cover.

                                                                        -6 is just going to entice Mont. St. action given Sac's record.

                                                                        Thoughts guys?
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