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  • kobstopa
    SBR MVP
    • 02-21-11
    • 2965

    #631
    Originally posted by NBA_Brosuf
    It feels like Dejavu all over. Are you trying to repeat Game 1 all over again?
    do you expect any different ?, unlike the Knicks was an odd one out, these teams come to play
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    • kobstopa
      SBR MVP
      • 02-21-11
      • 2965

      #632
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      Atlanta at Orlando
      Three teams had their back to wall & held out the elimination at home: Pacers, Sixers and Denver today.
      Orlando too, will look to survive one more game at home.

      SVG & Otis Smith is on the chopping block, unless they have a hidden immunity now is the time to play it.

      BUDLIGHT COLD HARD FACTS: including playoff record between these two teams
      Atlanta:
      Under is 37-15 in ATL last 52 vs. NBA Southeast.
      Under is 12-5 in ATL last 17 road games.

      Orlando:
      ORL are 2-9 ATS in their last 11 home games.
      Under is 9-2 in ORL last 11 vs. NBA Southeast.
      ORL are 2-7 ATS in their last 9 Tue. games.

      Head to Head:
      ATL are 8-0 ATS in the last 8 meetings.
      Underdog is 8-0 ATS in the last 8 meetings.




      in the last 3 games we can see they were decided by an average 4.5 points.

      Take Atlanta +7.5
      Take total under 178

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      Indiana at Chicago
      This is it for Indiana's basketball, it will be a respectable effort by them to keep the game close to the end,
      but thank you for coming and goodbye. See you next year.

      Bulls will wrap it up 4-1.

      But we have yet to see the Bulls win by a double digit.



      Indiana:
      IND are 11-4-1 ATS in their last 16 Tue. games.
      Under is 9-4 in IND last 13 road games.

      Chicago:
      CHI are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 home games.
      Under is 10-4 in CHI last 14 Tue. games.

      Take Indiana +9.5
      Take total under 187


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      • Love The Action
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-08-10
        • 10952

        #633
        Love the under in Atl/Orl, these teams have a history of playing under the total whether in the regular season or playoffs. I don't seed that changing here. I'm going to wait for the ref assignments before locking it though.

        The bulls under scares me. Ive cashed every game of that series except the last game where I played the over but the teams both shot under 39% for the second game in a row. If I remember the line movement on that game, the total steamed up 3 points before tip as the syndicates and smart money were on the over. I see the same reasons for the over in this game. Can these two teams really shot under 40% for a third game in a row or do they revert to their averages.

        I have no doubt rose plays and I might play the over in the bulls game small.

        Don't you like the lakers under as well? I see that one staying under just like atl/orlando. Those are the two best plays imho.

        GoodLuck on your plays.
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        • kobstopa
          SBR MVP
          • 02-21-11
          • 2965

          #634
          Originally posted by Love The Action
          Love the under in Atl/Orl, these teams have a history of playing under the total whether in the regular season or playoffs. I don't seed that changing here. I'm going to wait for the ref assignments before locking it though.

          The bulls under scares me. Ive cashed every game of that series except the last game where I played the over but the teams both shot under 39% for the second game in a row. If I remember the line movement on that game, the total steamed up 3 points before tip as the syndicates and smart money were on the over. I see the same reasons for the over in this game. Can these two teams really shot under 40% for a third game in a row or do they revert to their averages.

          I have no doubt rose plays and I might play the over in the bulls game small.

          Don't you like the lakers under as well? I see that one staying under just like atl/orlando. Those are the two best plays imho.

          GoodLuck on your plays.
          Can these two teams really shot under 40% for a third game in a row or do they revert to their averages.

          I really cant put an exact answer to that, but would be very surprised to see more than 43 % on average, the defense had been air tight on both sides, difficult to see the basket, combination of a lot of hits and miss, a block shot here and there. One of significant adjustment with the Pacers is their style of defense is similar to the Bulls; they do learn something from this series.

          Lakers/hornets, i look at it from a plain stat of scoring cycle, it's on an alternate hi-lo, plus
          again, it's really a number of factors: there's a few finishers between these teams can really shoot against difficult spacing & can really score against a good defense locked on them,
          Kob creates his own shots
          Pau can hit that low post/so bynum
          CP3 can take it in many form off the pick & in the lane, he can take his own shots when they space out for his assist targets.

          ....i can go forever here, but thing seem fall into places... it could go similar to the spur/mem game today,.
          but overall I think the Lakers will force the action, as they want to build the lead into late period and down want to play from behind, the hornets will too go with this pace. It will be a lot of energy at LA, the hornets themselves will come out with focus on every play.
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          • Love The Action
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-08-10
            • 10952

            #635
            Originally posted by kobstopa
            Can these two teams really shot under 40% for a third game in a row or do they revert to their averages.

            I really cant put an exact answer to that, but would be very surprised to see more than 43 % on average, the defense had been air tight on both sides, difficult to see the basket, combination of a lot of hits and miss, a block shot here and there. One of significant adjustment with the Pacers is their style of defense is similar to the Bulls; they do learn something from this series.

            Lakers/hornets, i look at it from a plain stat of scoring cycle, it's on an alternate hi-lo, plus
            again, it's really a number of factors: there's a few finishers between these teams can really shoot against difficult spacing & can really score against a good defense locked on them,
            Kob creates his own shots
            Pau can hit that low post/so bynum
            CP3 can take it in many form off the pick & in the lane, he can take his own shots when they space out for his assist targets.

            ....i can go forever here, but thing seem fall into places... it could go similar to the spur/mem game today,.
            but overall I think the Lakers will force the action, as they want to build the lead into late period and down want to play from behind, the hornets will too go with this pace. It will be a lot of energy at LA, the hornets themselves
            will come out with focus on every
            play.

            Great analysis. Thanks for your thoughts. I do agree about your hi-low assessment in the lakers game. I also agree that that the lakers will be really aggressive. However, I feel we see a letdown and poor shooting from the hornets tonight. The lakers need to stress defense tonight and I see both teams slowing it down in the second half and playing a half court defensive game. Plus, I think we will see a low scoring game in one of the next two games, so I will play the under small today and go bigger in the next game if it doesn't hit. My concern is that a few late foul calls help push it over and will be interested to see the ref assignments.

            Good luck tonight on all your plays. You have some great thoughts and I appreciate your thread.
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            • bowers1989
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-04-11
              • 396

              #636
              i got a 7pt teaser with pacers +17 hawks +14.5 and hornets+17.5. ;p
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              • JC 420
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-07-10
                • 544

                #637
                Originally posted by bowers1989
                i got a 7pt teaser with pacers +17 hawks +14.5 and hornets+17.5. ;p
                nice teaser
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                • 7secondsOrLess
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-26-10
                  • 1576

                  #638
                  montas eyes lmao
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                  • bowers1989
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 03-04-11
                    • 396

                    #639
                    Originally posted by JC 420
                    nice teaser
                    yea. lets hope fo no serious blowouts. lol
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                    • kobstopa
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-21-11
                      • 2965

                      #640
                      Originally posted by bowers1989
                      i got a 7pt teaser with pacers +17 hawks +14.5 and hornets+17.5. ;p
                      if you're lucky, it doesn't matter even wit 10 you still can get it. But doesnt happen that often.
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                      • GarbageMan
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 11-28-10
                        • 484

                        #641
                        Best of luck today kob, rolling with the pirates +1.5 myself.
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                        • garbin
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-16-11
                          • 146

                          #642
                          And it seems that some people decided to play ball tonight.
                          Tonight wasn't great as far as results but happens.
                          I like the Grizzlies and the Thunders tomorrow to cover, don't see Spurs blowing them like today's games.
                          OKC will probably readjust and make better shot decision for this game making it really hard for the Denver team to keep it up.

                          What do you think Kob?
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                          • NBA_Brosuf
                            Restricted User
                            • 02-14-11
                            • 2489

                            #643
                            So today's game is a reverse of all them game 1 where dogs win and under cashed.

                            This is my indicator to get out and wait for the next trendy train.
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                            • kobstopa
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-21-11
                              • 2965

                              #644
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                              Like a cut scene at the start of " The Apocalypse Now" ......
                              This is the end, Beautiful friend
                              This is the end My only friend, the end....."add the rest of that elevator music"...... by the doors.

                              James the assassin & his machete masquerade the buffalo sixers. Act 4 scene 1.

                              Take Miami -11
                              Take total under 186
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                              Denver had won just one game & already sent OKC's coaching staff into a mild migraine.
                              At least they know how to fix it. Play defense, keep the nugg under 95 points, 2nd round here we come.

                              Take OKC -6.5
                              Take total under 205


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                              • kobstopa
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-21-11
                                • 2965

                                #645
                                Originally posted by garbin
                                And it seems that some people decided to play ball tonight.
                                Tonight wasn't great as far as results but happens.
                                I like the Grizzlies and the Thunders tomorrow to cover, don't see Spurs blowing them like today's games.
                                OKC will probably readjust and make better shot decision for this game making it really hard for the Denver team to keep it up.

                                What do you think Kob?
                                spur/grizz - I think it will decide by a bucket
                                OKC will close it out, KD will shoot light out. Denvers put a resistance at half & then let it go just like the Hawks & the Pacers today's games.
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                                • kobstopa
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-21-11
                                  • 2965

                                  #646
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                                  Memphis at San Antonio
                                  It should be an extra mild defense lock down by the Spurs on the the Grizz.

                                  Take total under 189


                                  MLB
                                  _____________________________________
                                  Rockies at Chicago Cubs

                                  Starting Pitchers
                                  Colorado: Chacin (3-1, 2.67 ERA)
                                  Chicago: Coleman (1-1, 7.43 ERA)

                                  Rockies to win

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                                  Kansas at Cleveland Indians
                                  Make it 0-5 for KC. Clev will hit it one more at home.
                                  Starting Pitchers

                                  Kansas City: Francis (0-2, 4.06 ERA)
                                  Cleveland: Tomlin (3-0, 2.33 ERA)


                                  Take Indians
                                  Take total over 8.5


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                                  • kobstopa
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-21-11
                                    • 2965

                                    #647
                                    Originally posted by kobstopa
                                    [ATTACH]27081[/ATTACH]

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                                    Like a cut scene at the start of " The Apocalypse Now" ......
                                    This is the end, Beautiful friend
                                    This is the end My only friend, the end....."add the rest of that elevator music"...... by the doors.

                                    James the assassin & his machete masquerade the buffalo sixers. Act 4 scene 1.

                                    Take Miami -11
                                    Take total under 186 -
                                    score: 91 97 Heats
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                                    [ATTACH]27077[/ATTACH]

                                    Denver had won just one game & already sent OKC's coaching staff into a mild migraine.
                                    At least they know how to fix it. Play defense, keep the nugg under 95 points, 2nd round here we come.

                                    Take OKC -6.5
                                    Take total under 205


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                                    • kobstopa
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-21-11
                                      • 2965

                                      #648
                                      Originally posted by kobstopa
                                      ver2
                                      [ATTACH]27086[/ATTACH]

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                                      Memphis at San Antonio
                                      It should be an extra mild defense lock down by the Spurs on the the Grizz.

                                      Take total under 189


                                      MLB
                                      _____________________________________
                                      Rockies at Chicago Cubs

                                      Starting Pitchers
                                      Colorado: Chacin (3-1, 2.67 ERA)
                                      Chicago: Coleman (1-1, 7.43 ERA)

                                      Rockies to win delayed

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                                      Kansas at Cleveland Indians
                                      Make it 0-5 for KC. Clev will hit it one more at home.
                                      Starting Pitchers

                                      Kansas City: Francis (0-2, 4.06 ERA)
                                      Cleveland: Tomlin (3-0, 2.33 ERA)


                                      Take Indians
                                      Take total over 8.5
                                      2-7 indians
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                                      • garbin
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 04-16-11
                                        • 146

                                        #649
                                        I really liked the under, very unlucky to lose this one. But I scored Memphis at least.
                                        Now I have OKC -3.5 lets see if they bring the night!
                                        Good baseball calls!
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                                        • kobstopa
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-21-11
                                          • 2965

                                          #650
                                          Originally posted by garbin
                                          I really liked the under, very unlucky to lose this one. But I scored Memphis at least.
                                          Now I have OKC -3.5 lets see if they bring the night!
                                          Good baseball calls!
                                          i parlay OKC -6.5/under 205 x Indians/over 8.5 x rockie ml
                                          gl tol all of us
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                                          • garbin
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-16-11
                                            • 146

                                            #651
                                            F.uck, that was close again! -0.5!
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                                            • kobstopa
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-21-11
                                              • 2965

                                              #652
                                              damn, didn't cover it. oh well.. at least it was in good spot

                                              97 100 OKC
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                                              • kobstopa
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-21-11
                                                • 2965

                                                #653
                                                Originally posted by garbin
                                                F.uck, that was close again! -0.5!
                                                sorry man, it's total out of character to see OKC behind in the 4th like that & cant close out with a descent lead.
                                                poor defense all the way, free layup late in the game when u down 4 points.
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                                                • garbin
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 04-16-11
                                                  • 146

                                                  #654
                                                  I agree, it happens.
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                                                  • kobstopa
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-21-11
                                                    • 2965

                                                    #655
                                                    [ATTACH]27109[/ATTACH]
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                                                    • St8Ca$homie
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 04-07-11
                                                      • 161

                                                      #656
                                                      Sorry new to this thread , i take it these are your plays for 4/28. Nice features bud , GL
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                                                      • kobstopa
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-21-11
                                                        • 2965

                                                        #657
                                                        Originally posted by St8Ca$homie
                                                        Sorry new to this thread , i take it these are your plays for 4/28. Nice features bud , GL
                                                        Hi there Ca$h,

                                                        what we have here is just an estimate(or a working in progress figure if you like), I will have separate plays later on.

                                                        good luck with your play
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                                                        • kobstopa
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-21-11
                                                          • 2965

                                                          #658


                                                          MLB
                                                          _____________________________________
                                                          Rays at Minnesota Twins

                                                          Starting Pitchers

                                                          Tampa Bay: Hellickson (1-2, 4.32 ERA)
                                                          Minnesota: Blackburn (1-3, 4.01 ERA)

                                                          Take Tampa to win

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                                                          Cardinals at Houston Astros
                                                          Starting Pitchers

                                                          St. Louis: McClellan (3-0, 2.16 ERA)
                                                          Houston: Figueroa (0-3, 8.55 ERA)

                                                          Take total over 8.5


                                                          _____________________________________
                                                          Kansas City Royals at Cleveland
                                                          Starting Pitchers

                                                          Kansas City: Davies (1-2, 6.23 ERA)
                                                          Cleveland: Carmona (1-3, 5.76 ERA

                                                          Take Cleveland to win


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                                                          • kobstopa
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-21-11
                                                            • 2965

                                                            #659

                                                            Orlando at Atlanta

                                                            We'll see if SVG's pick'n' roll working again & the Hawks will approach this one as a game 7 at home.

                                                            Take total under 178.5


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                                                            Dallas at Portland
                                                            Can Dirk and the Mav close it out ?. But I doubt that Portland will go into a forth quarter mental collapse again at home.

                                                            Dallas +4.5


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                                                            • Love The Action
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 10952

                                                              #660
                                                              Really respect your opinion Kob and I love to see that we are both on the Atl/Orl under!

                                                              I'm also playing the Lakers/Hornets under (big) and the Portland/Dallas under as well. All three unders for me!

                                                              Any thoughts on those last two? As we discussed, the hi-low, zig-zag is in full effect in that Lakers series. With an intense game 6 elimination game up tonight, I really like the under. Both teams understand they will need to D-up to win. Any thoughts on those other two game under calls?

                                                              Thanks bud and good luck on all of your plays!
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                                                              • kobstopa
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-21-11
                                                                • 2965

                                                                #661
                                                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                Really respect your opinion Kob and I love to see that we are both on the Atl/Orl under!

                                                                I'm also playing the Lakers/Hornets under (big) and the Portland/Dallas under as well. All three unders for me!

                                                                Any thoughts on those last two? As we discussed, the hi-low, zig-zag is in full effect in that Lakers series. With an intense game 6 elimination game up tonight, I really like the under. Both teams understand they will need to D-up to win. Any thoughts on those other two game under calls?

                                                                Thanks bud and good luck on all of your plays!
                                                                Hi there LTA,

                                                                the last two can be tricky & a relative one, especially the Lakers
                                                                let look at that zig-zag: the pattern went back to feb 2011 (see below), & i hope the pattern stay that way, Lakers scored around 100 (3/4 times) at home in a consistent form.

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                                                                now keep in mind through regular season, NO played strong defense and evident with its league low points allow per game & so was the Lakers ( had 3 good 8 games winning stretch). One would assume they played a slow pace game, which not necessary true, they can run an upper tempo as well depend on the situation present itself.

                                                                In this series we have seen LA had trouble contained CP3 & NO off the pick'n'roll where he had good numbers and they loss. therefore can expect CP to go aggressive with offense & force the action; how effective is their mid range jumpers ?, this will then depend on how effective is LA's defense on the day

                                                                In short, if both play solid, physical & equivalent amount of defense then it should round out their offense efficiency & we'll have a poor scoring production, therefore low scoring.
                                                                And judging from Jackson's comment recently, we can expect some sort of a physical form


                                                                a good read on LA's defensive scheme here, to further more understanding:


                                                                As for Portland, i sense they like to push the ball more than usual & again it's not a grinding that people think they are. But surprisingly Dallas had slow them down, see espn's nice little stat tool here

                                                                ESPN is the place for NBA stats! Find a list of the team stat leaders for the 2024-25 NBA Regular Season.



                                                                I like our chances for the under today, gl
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                                                                • Love The Action
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                                  • 10952

                                                                  #662
                                                                  Thanks for the insight and links! Good luck tonight.
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                                                                  • GarbageMan
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 11-28-10
                                                                    • 484

                                                                    #663
                                                                    Was on the Rays as well mate, let the good times roll
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                                                                    • NBA_Brosuf
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-14-11
                                                                      • 2489

                                                                      #664
                                                                      With the portland game, when Kidd shooting lights out, it went over yeah? I remembered losing a few games playing the under and lost because Kidd was on a shooting spree.

                                                                      In game 5, kidd scoring was ineffective but he had double figures assist. Aldridge has a low score and did not shoot a single free throw. Dirk has only 25. Everyone was low on their average and yet, the total was just 7 points below today's total. Now what would happen if everyone can just inch up a little bit which more likely to happen because 2 skunking days is just bad for business? High or low? You guys riding low, I'm riding high. I hate to go against you guys but lets critique when the game is over. I'm down to see where I was off and learn some more.
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                                                                      • kobstopa
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-21-11
                                                                        • 2965

                                                                        #665
                                                                        Originally posted by GarbageMan
                                                                        Was on the Rays as well mate, let the good times roll
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