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  • PistolPete13
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-13-10
    • 127

    #596
    I get qtr lines at betus.com i can't always get 2nd and 4th qtr lines though. that's why i came up with the idea for the 3rd qtr. haven't been able to check with underdogs getting pts. Been at the poker room last 3 nights.

    Originally posted by curious
    Are you taking dogs + the points and favs money line?

    Is there a place that "average" posters can make the 3rd Q plays? I get a lot of complaints for some of my strategies from "average" posters that they cannot find a book that will let them do that.

    If we can find some places that most people can find I will start placing and tracking these plays. I think the Q and H plays are much stronger than games.
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    • VegasPlayer
      SBR MVP
      • 07-27-09
      • 3676

      #597
      Originally posted by curious
      Are you taking dogs + the points and favs money line?

      Is there a place that "average" posters can make the 3rd Q plays? I get a lot of complaints for some of my strategies from "average" posters that they cannot find a book that will let them do that.

      If we can find some places that most people can find I will start placing and tracking these plays. I think the Q and H plays are much stronger than games.
      5D has all 4 quarter lines posted before Tip. ML & Spread.
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      • MartR
        SBR Sharp
        • 12-14-10
        • 321

        #598
        My bookie has set oklahoma and orlando as equals and a +1,5 to denver only. So I guess +1,5 to Miami seems good enough.
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        • VegasPlayer
          SBR MVP
          • 07-27-09
          • 3676

          #599
          OK, I ran the quarter numbers on the Lakers. Here is a sample of what we can find out on a spreadsheet. As I get more familiar with manipulating the data, I can probably write some macros to make the process quicker. Problem is keeping the data current. The data can be cut just about any way one wishes to see it, just have to plug in the right formulas.

          Lakers are 27-10-2 in 1st Qtrs
          Lakers are 14-11-2 In the 2nd quarter winning the 1st Qtr
          Lakers are 7-5-0 In the 2nd quarter losing the 1st Qtr

          Data does not include last nights game and does not include spreads.
          I don't play spreads unless I'm hedging, so this would work for me.

          The read is obvious here. Lakers start fast, then throttle it down somewhat. 1st qtr hit rate is 69.2% and still over 50% in the 2nd qtr either way. Don't know how this relates to the ML, but it has piqued my interest.
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          • curious
            Restricted User
            • 07-20-07
            • 9093

            #600
            Originally posted by VegasPlayer
            OK, I ran the quarter numbers on the Lakers. Here is a sample of what we can find out on a spreadsheet. As I get more familiar with manipulating the data, I can probably write some macros to make the process quicker. Problem is keeping the data current. The data can be cut just about any way one wishes to see it, just have to plug in the right formulas.

            Lakers are 27-10-2 in 1st Qtrs
            Lakers are 14-11-2 In the 2nd quarter winning the 1st Qtr
            Lakers are 7-5-0 In the 2nd quarter losing the 1st Qtr

            Data does not include last nights game and does not include spreads.
            I don't play spreads unless I'm hedging, so this would work for me.

            The read is obvious here. Lakers start fast, then throttle it down somewhat. 1st qtr hit rate is 69.2% and still over 50% in the 2nd qtr either way. Don't know how this relates to the ML, but it has piqued my interest.
            Here is the thing with Quarters. The books do not CAP the quarters based on the teams quarter record. They make the line for the quarter in a ratio to the line for the game. WOW. So, you can find exploitable edges. I think using the money line is best, but spreads will work, you just have to handicap the quarter in more detail.

            We should pursue this.
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            • curious
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              • 07-20-07
              • 9093

              #601
              Originally posted by Dialysis1
              Can I find Nuggets at +4??
              No, I jump on the lines the moment that they are posted. If the line gets better then I add to the play later on. If the line gets a lot worse then I take the dog + the points if I am on the fav.

              The Nuggets line moved away from you since the line opened.
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              • curious
                Restricted User
                • 07-20-07
                • 9093

                #602
                Jan 13 quarter and half plays

                1st Q
                Minnesota -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
                Denver +1 -110 2.2 to win 2

                1st H
                Minnesota -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
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                • Romanov
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-08-10
                  • 4137

                  #603
                  Originally posted by curious
                  1st Q Minnesota -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2 Denver +1 -110 2.2 to win 2 1st H Minnesota -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
                  Are these plays based on their records in the 1st quarter in the past?
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                  • VegasPlayer
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-27-09
                    • 3676

                    #604
                    Originally posted by curious
                    Here is the thing with Quarters. The books do not CAP the quarters based on the teams quarter record. They make the line for the quarter in a ratio to the line for the game. WOW. So, you can find exploitable edges. I think using the money line is best, but spreads will work, you just have to handicap the quarter in more detail.

                    We should pursue this.
                    I agree. I'm gonna run the queries on the Pacific division and then spreadsheet the stuff and see what shows up. Tonight is my Friday in the working world, so I should be able to get alot done over the weekend. Hope you cash tonight.
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                    • curious
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-20-07
                      • 9093

                      #605
                      Originally posted by Romanov
                      Are these plays based on their records in the 1st quarter in the past?
                      No, they are based on each teams' average total vs their opponent in that quarter, a number from +10 to -10 (more or less). I am looking for teams which have high + numbers vs teams that have low - numbers for the Quarter or the Half.

                      We are not crunching the team play per quarter for all teams yet.
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                      • curious
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-20-07
                        • 9093

                        #606
                        Thursday, Jan 13

                        Reposting the plays because I could not find them earlier. LOL

                        OKC +1 +1.1 5 to win 5.5 units
                        Nuggets +4 -110 5.5 to win 5 units
                        Minnesota -220 8.8 to win 4

                        Also have OKC and Nuggets on the money line risking 1 unit each.
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                        • curious
                          Restricted User
                          • 07-20-07
                          • 9093

                          #607
                          Thursday, Jan 13 Totals

                          Miami vs Denver Game Total OVER 204 -110 2.2 to win 2
                          Orlando vs Oklahoma City Game Total UNDER 203 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
                          Washington vs Minnesota Game Total UNDER 208 -110 2.2 to win 2

                          I got these from Laker_crazy. I don't know how to cap totals.
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                          • curious
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-20-07
                            • 9093

                            #608
                            Fri Jan 14

                            These are Friday, Jan 14 plays.

                            Play dogs + the points and favs on the moneyline.
                            Toronto 3 units
                            Philly 3 units
                            Indiana 1 unit
                            New York 5 units
                            Boston 6 units
                            Utah 5 units
                            Golden State 4.5 units
                            Lakers 6 units
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                            • curious
                              Restricted User
                              • 07-20-07
                              • 9093

                              #609
                              Interesting play possibility

                              We are on Nuggets +4. If you waited you lost, when you snooze you loose.

                              Now the Heat are +1 1/2. Maybe we should take the Heat for a small play? LOL
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                              • curious
                                Restricted User
                                • 07-20-07
                                • 9093

                                #610
                                Why do I like this song so much?

                                I heard this band for the first time the other day. I keep listening to this song. Can't figure out if the song is really good or if it is just the novelty.



                                "While your lips are still red" by Nightwish
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                                • Dialysis1
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 11-16-10
                                  • 235

                                  #611
                                  Great picks yesterday, Curious

                                  Cashed 'em all, except the Orl/Ok under 203 (I took the over). Thanks!

                                  Not excited about the band, tho...
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                                  • xxbadazxx
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-29-08
                                    • 133

                                    #612
                                    That band really sucks, love your posts but i dont get it
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                                    • curious
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 07-20-07
                                      • 9093

                                      #613
                                      Originally posted by curious
                                      1st q
                                      minnesota -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2 win +2
                                      denver +1 -110 2.2 to win 2 win +2

                                      1st h
                                      minnesota -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2 win +2
                                      3-0 +6
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                                      • curious
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 07-20-07
                                        • 9093

                                        #614
                                        Originally posted by curious
                                        reposting the plays because i could not find them earlier. Lol

                                        okc +1 +1.1 5 to win 5.5 units win +5.5
                                        nuggets +4 -110 5.5 to win 5 units win +5
                                        minnesota -220 8.8 to win 4 win +4

                                        also have okc and nuggets on the money line risking 1 unit each.

                                        Okc +110 1 to win 1.1 units win +1.1
                                        nuggets +160 1 to win 1.6 win +1.6
                                        3-0 +17.1
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                                        • curious
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 07-20-07
                                          • 9093

                                          #615
                                          Originally posted by curious
                                          miami vs denver game total over 204 -110 2.2 to win 2 win +2
                                          orlando vs oklahoma city game total under 203 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2 loss -2.2
                                          washington vs minnesota game total under 208 -110 2.2 to win 2 win +2

                                          i got these from laker_crazy. I don't know how to cap totals.
                                          2-1 +1.8
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                                          • curious
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 07-20-07
                                            • 9093

                                            #616
                                            Thur Jan 13 Recap 8-1 +24.9

                                            8-1 +24.9

                                            Great night last night.

                                            Hey, those crackheads that are always talking smack to me because I play the way I do, where are they when we win big?
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                                            • curious
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 07-20-07
                                              • 9093

                                              #617
                                              Friday Jan 14 Games

                                              Toronto -190 ML 5.7 to win 3 units
                                              Philly -180 ML 5.4 to win 3 units
                                              Indiana -102 ML 1.02 to win 1 units
                                              Golden State -160 7.2 to win 4.5 units
                                              Boston -450 25 to win 6 units
                                              New York -440 22 to win 5 units
                                              Utah -3000 150 to win 5 units
                                              Lakers -1600 96 to win 6 units

                                              If you fainted when you read the plays on Utah and the Lakers you can try them ATS but ATS on these big numbers is 10-11 this year. SU on these big numbers is 20-1 this year.

                                              Granted the Cavaliers have been awful lately, so -14 is probably okay with them. New Jersey looks like they have fallen completely apart lately.

                                              Who wants to bet me 100 SBR points that some crackhead who has no informative posts comes in this thread and talks smack to me because I am laying these big numbers?
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                                              • curious
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 07-20-07
                                                • 9093

                                                #618
                                                See if you like this song

                                                I LOVE This song, I love playing it for my young hot wife. LOL



                                                Everyone hated the last song, see if you like this one, and see if your wife likes it when you sing it to her. LOL
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                                                • Dialysis1
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 11-16-10
                                                  • 235

                                                  #619
                                                  Originally posted by curious
                                                  I LOVE This song, I love playing it for my young hot wife. LOL



                                                  Everyone hated the last song, see if you like this one, and see if your wife likes it when you sing it to her. LOL

                                                  Now THAT'S more like it!
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                                                  • LolsMcwinsey
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-08-10
                                                    • 2660

                                                    #620
                                                    laying all that juice makes me LOL. i hope you don't do that for baseball.
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                                                    • caracalla
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                                                      • 11-12-05
                                                      • 2549

                                                      #621
                                                      Hey, curious, I found where UDOG is posting now. Mauisportsinsider KO.
                                                      But your PM disabled: why?
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                                                      • caracalla
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                                                        • 11-12-05
                                                        • 2549

                                                        #622
                                                        Originally posted by curious
                                                        8-1 +24.9

                                                        Great night last night.

                                                        Hey, those crackheads that are always talking smack to me because I play the way I do, where are they when we win big?
                                                        I don't like the way you bet (today -3000!!; I never less than -170) but I always respected your analysis, studies and ideas.
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                                                        • Romanov
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-08-10
                                                          • 4137

                                                          #623
                                                          Originally posted by caracalla
                                                          I don't like the way you bet (today -3000!!; I never less than -170) but I always respected your analysis, studies and ideas.
                                                          If I could, I would bet everything I own on the Jazz -3000 tonight
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                                                          • timmyboy34243
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-06-10
                                                            • 1379

                                                            #624
                                                            Originally posted by curious
                                                            1st Q
                                                            Minnesota -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
                                                            Denver +1 -110 2.2 to win 2

                                                            1st H
                                                            Minnesota -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2

                                                            thanks for the play, used your 1st inning formula from the daba thread to have a pretty good score on the two 1st quater plays.....
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                                                            • curious
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 07-20-07
                                                              • 9093

                                                              #625
                                                              Originally posted by LolsMcwinsey
                                                              laying all that juice makes me LOL. i hope you don't do that for baseball.
                                                              I will put my record in any sport (that I actively play) against yours anytime and I will bet you any amount that I will be the one going LOL.

                                                              In baseball I usually don't go beyond -170, but there are some pitchers and some teams that I don't care what the line is. And there are other teams that I would never go beyond -150. You have to analyze the stats. Rules like this are fairly good general guidelines but are not good predictive rules.
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                                                              • curious
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 07-20-07
                                                                • 9093

                                                                #626
                                                                Oh, I forgot to clarify, when I say record I mean actual money won lost, because all these spread experts complain that even if my record is 100-1, that doesn't mean anything because I use money lines.
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                                                                • curious
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 07-20-07
                                                                  • 9093

                                                                  #627
                                                                  Originally posted by caracalla
                                                                  Hey, curious, I found where UDOG is posting now. Mauisportsinsider KO.
                                                                  But your PM disabled: why?
                                                                  Because one of the SBR employees hates me and he screws with me every chance he gets. He took my PM function away.
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                                                                  • curious
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 07-20-07
                                                                    • 9093

                                                                    #628
                                                                    Originally posted by caracalla
                                                                    I don't like the way you bet (today -3000!!; I never less than -170) but I always respected your analysis, studies and ideas.
                                                                    I bet the way I do because that is what works the best. saying that you never bet less than -170 is a HORRIBLE way to bet. I can prove that with real numbers.
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                                                                    • curious
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 07-20-07
                                                                      • 9093

                                                                      #629
                                                                      Originally posted by Romanov
                                                                      If I could, I would bet everything I own on the Jazz -3000 tonight
                                                                      A parlay with the Lakers wouldn't be bad, I think that will cost -1000. So, you win 1 for every 10 that you lay.
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                                                                      • curious
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 07-20-07
                                                                        • 9093

                                                                        #630
                                                                        Originally posted by timmyboy34243
                                                                        thanks for the play, used your 1st inning formula from the daba thread to have a pretty good score on the two 1st quater plays.....
                                                                        I am glad that you are having good success. If I get time to do the first Q and first H plays today I will.

                                                                        I like these much better on the money line but a lot of people have a hard time getting them.

                                                                        I also like the live plays where you take the 2nd Q at the end of the 1st Q and the 4th Q at the end of the 3rd Q but a lot of people cannot find those bets.

                                                                        We are working on a prediction model for those bets that I believe is going to be killer.
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