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curiousRestricted User
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#736I am young, I am 53. VERY young.Comment -
LtDementiaSBR High Roller
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#737Hey curious -
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain how you handicap - It should get people thinking. I'm sorta new at this and have question about sizing your moneyline bets. In a previous post you described it in detail, but I'm trying to see how you would apply it to 2 team parlays.
If I crank the data for two teams thru my trusty calculator and come up with a unit sizes of 1.8 and 5.1, what would I use for the parlay units?? I'm assuming the sum of the two?
Thanks
LTComment -
curiousRestricted User
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#738I really dislike parlays.Originally posted by LtDementiaHey curious -
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain how you handicap - It should get people thinking. I'm sorta new at this and have question about sizing your moneyline bets. In a previous post you described it in detail, but I'm trying to see how you would apply it to 2 team parlays.
If I crank the data for two teams thru my trusty calculator and come up with a unit sizes of 1.8 and 5.1, what would I use for the parlay units?? I'm assuming the sum of the two?
Thanks
LT
But, you are correct. If you have one team at 5.1 and one team at 1.8 then your parlay would be risking 6.9 if it was + odds and to win 6.9 if it was - odds. But, I would say you are crazy to put a 1.8 team into a parlay with a 6.9 team. The odds that the 1.8 team will win are too close. What kills you is if the 1.8 team loses and the 6.9 team wins.
Stay away from parlays unless you have some huge line like -2000 that you are trying to get more into orbit. BUT make sure that the other team has a large per centage to win. Like -500 and you know that their latest streak is great and their opponents latest streak is terrible.
Over a season, if you play lots of plays you are much better off to play only straight bets and leave parlays alone. I know I do play parlays once in a while but I don't recommend them.Comment -
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#739Sunday, Jan 16 NBA additional play
The Lakers lost, of course. I hate that stupid team.
Let's double up on the Spurs so that they will lose.
Spurs -300 ML 18 to win 6
This is in addition to the earlier Spurs play.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#740Okay, Montana State and Mississippi State won. Let's go Minnesota. WOOO HOOO. I don't even know where that is.Originally posted by curiousParlay hey hey
Parlay -185 11.1 to win 6
Montana State -825 ML
Mississippi State -550 ML
Minnesota -600 MLComment -
sweetjones55SBR Hall of Famer
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#741Suns is the play then according to this tomorrow?Originally posted by spongerat[B]
- Teams losing their 1st game back have gone on to win their 2nd game back at only a 29.0% ATS rateScared money don't make money
182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFSComment -
curiousRestricted User
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#742Mon, Jan 17
Look at the results of the early games and if any of these lose then increase the play on the later games. If I have time I will update the plays to reflect this. I did this today when the early play lost, I doubled up the late play which is looking good.
1:00 PM Utah -165 1.65 to win 1
1:00 PM New York -280 5.6 to win 2
1:00 PM Memphis 2 units (risk 2 if Memphis is a dog, risk enough to win 2 if a fav)
2:00 PM Philly -220 7.7 to win 3.5
3:00 PM New Orleans -400 20 to win 5
3:00 PM Houston -200 4 to win 2
3:30 PM Clippers -135 1.35 to win 1
3:30 PM Detroit +5 -110 2.2 to win 2
4:00 PM Atlanta -330 16.5 to win 5
4:00 PM Golden State -330 14.85 to win 4.5
8:00 PM Boston 3 (risk 3 if Memphis is a dog, risk enough to win 3 if a fav)
10:00 PM Portland 6 (risk 6 if Portland is a dog, risk enough to win 6 if a fav)
10:30 PM Lakers 1 (risk 1 if Lakers are a dog, risk enough to win 1 if a fav)Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#743Please post your plays in your own thread. That is not a play that I am backing. I have the Knicks on the money line.Originally posted by sweetjones55Suns is the play then according to this tomorrow?Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#744Win +6Originally posted by curiousParlay hey hey
Parlay -185 11.1 to win 6
Montana State -825 ML
Mississippi State -550 ML
Minnesota -600 MLComment -
sweetjones55SBR Hall of Famer
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#745Suns is not my play either. I am asking the guy who posted the stats if Suns is the play and falls into that system play that hits 71% according to him.Originally posted by curious
Please post your plays in your own thread. That is not a play that I am backing. I have the Knicks on the money line.Scared money don't make money
182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFSComment -
curiousRestricted User
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#746According to what he said, it would be. I don't trust this number because I ran some stats and my numbers don't agree with this. Unless I did it wrong somehow. We'll see I guess.Originally posted by sweetjones55Suns is not my play either. I am asking the guy who posted the stats if Suns is the play and falls into that system play that hits 71% according to him.Comment -
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#747Win +6Originally posted by curiousThe Lakers lost, of course. I hate that stupid team.
Let's double up on the Spurs so that they will lose.
Spurs -300 ML 18 to win 6
This is in addition to the earlier Spurs play.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#7482-2 +.2Originally posted by curiousLakers -225 ML 5.625 to win 2.5 Loss -5.625
San Antonio -300 ML 18 to win 6 Win +6
Bump
Adding a Q and a H play
1st Q
San Antonio -2 -110 2.2 to win 2 Loss -2.2
1st H
San Antonio -4 -110 2.2 to win 2 Win +2
Well, if you bet $100,000 on these then you made $200. WOOO HOOOComment -
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#749Sun Jan 16 basketball results
There are several posts, so I am summarizing them so I can figure out what we did in basketball.
NCAAB
Parlay -185 11.1 to win 6 Win +6
Montana State -825 ML
Mississippi State -550 ML
Minnesota -600 ML
NBA
Lakers -225 ML 5.625 to win 2.5 Loss -5.625
San Antonio -300 ML 18 to win 6 Win +6
Later NBA play, doubled up on San Antonio
San Antonio -300 ML 18 to win 6 Win +6
Q and H
1st Q
San Antonio -2 -110 2.2 to win 2 Loss -2.2
1st H
San Antonio -4 -110 2.2 to win 2 Win +2
5-2 +12.2Comment -
DutchSBR MVP
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#750Originally posted by curiousMy favorite album.
Black Sabbath's first album.
Behind the wall of sleep / NIB
Points for this one.
I'm going to see Ozzy on Valentines day in Moline, Il.Comment -
A's FanSBR Wise Guy
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#751glglComment -
dvb02SBR MVP
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#752Go get em Curious!!Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#753bump bump bumpOriginally posted by curiousLook at the results of the early games and if any of these lose then increase the play on the later games. If I have time I will update the plays to reflect this. I did this today when the early play lost, I doubled up the late play which is looking good.
1:00 PM Utah -165 1.65 to win 1
1:00 PM New York -280 5.6 to win 2
1:00 PM Memphis 2 units (risk 2 if Memphis is a dog, risk enough to win 2 if a fav)
2:00 PM Philly -220 7.7 to win 3.5
3:00 PM New Orleans -400 20 to win 5
3:00 PM Houston -200 4 to win 2
3:30 PM Clippers -135 1.35 to win 1
3:30 PM Detroit +5 -110 2.2 to win 2
4:00 PM Atlanta -330 16.5 to win 5
4:00 PM Golden State -330 14.85 to win 4.5
8:00 PM Boston 3 (risk 3 if Memphis is a dog, risk enough to win 3 if a fav)
10:00 PM Portland 6 (risk 6 if Portland is a dog, risk enough to win 6 if a fav)
10:30 PM Lakers 1 (risk 1 if Lakers are a dog, risk enough to win 1 if a fav)Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#7541st Quarter Records YTD
I counted a Tie as a Loss.
Stat = win / (win + loss)
I cannot find a source for spreads in quarter plays, so this might be different if we added points to the dogs.
Team Win Loss Stat
Lakers 27 15 0.64
Celtics 24 15 0.62
Mavericks 24 15 0.62
Hawks 25 16 0.61
Clippers 23 16 0.59
Trail Blazers 24 17 0.59
Magic 23 17 0.58
Heat 23 19 0.55
Bulls 21 19 0.53
Nuggets 21 19 0.53
Philly 20 19 0.51
Spurs 20 21 0.49
Bucks 18 19 0.49
Grizzlies 19 21 0.48
Kings 18 20 0.47
Hornets 19 22 0.46
Rockets 19 22 0.46
Pistons 18 22 0.45
Thunder 18 22 0.45
Wizards 17 21 0.45
Knicks 17 22 0.44
Bobcats 16 22 0.42
Suns 15 23 0.39
Warriors 15 23 0.39
Timberwolves 16 25 0.39
Pacers 13 24 0.35
Toronto 14 26 0.35
Cavaliers 14 26 0.35
New Jersey 13 27 0.33
Jazz 10 30 0.25Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#755Mon, Jan 17 1st Q
Washington +1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Philly -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Houston -1 1/2 -110 to win 2
Clippers -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Dallas -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Atlanta -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Portland waiting for line
Lakers -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
If you can get 1st Q plays on the money line you are much better off playing favs on the money line, always play dogs + the points.Comment -
sweetjones55SBR Hall of Famer
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#756What books already have all of the 1Q lines up?Originally posted by curiousWashington +1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Philly -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Houston -1 1/2 -110 to win 2
Clippers -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Dallas -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Atlanta -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Portland waiting for line
Lakers -1 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
If you can get 1st Q plays on the money line you are much better off playing favs on the money line, always play dogs + the points.Scared money don't make money
182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFSComment -
curiousRestricted User
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#757today's song
Lady in the lake by Elysian Fields
This band grows on you.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#758Late 1st Q line posted
Portland 1Q -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#759Updating late lines
1:00 PM Utah -165 1.65 to win 1
1:00 PM New York -280 5.6 to win 2
1:00 PM Memphis -195 3.9 to win 2 units
2:00 PM Philly -220 7.7 to win 3.5
3:00 PM New Orleans -400 20 to win 5
3:00 PM Houston -200 4 to win 2
3:30 PM Clippers -135 1.35 to win 1
3:30 PM Detroit +5 -110 2.2 to win 2
4:00 PM Atlanta -330 16.5 to win 5
4:00 PM Golden State -330 14.85 to win 4.5
8:00 PM Boston -150 4.5 to win 3
10:00 PM Portland -350 21 to win 6
10:30 PM Lakers -180 1.8 to win 1Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#760Not sure what you are talking about, I found these lines at multiple places.Originally posted by sweetjones55What books already have all of the 1Q lines up?
Double checked the lines after the books that most of the crackheads on here use and I was a little bit higher on two plays, dead on on all the other plays.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#761Why are modern scientists so ignorant?
I read a story today, yes I can read, about how some idiots are planning on using cloning to bring back the woolly mammoth.
Here is what one of these idiots said: ""After the mammoth is born, we will examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors."
Now, what if the mammoth became extinct because of some communicable disease that can spread to relatives of the mammoth like the elephant or the mastodon and then the mastodons become extinct?
Crackheads.Comment -
VegasPlayerSBR MVP
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#762Add Knicks to the crackhead team list. They've wiped out a very productive road trip by showing up stoned for the Kings and Suns.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#763Well, my 1st quarter play went from one of the best things I do to being so far in the dirt I will never pull it out.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#764Is today freaking dog day?
Every dog on the board winning or has already won. WTF?Comment -
VegasPlayerSBR MVP
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#765Lookin pretty ugly. Glad I'm going to work and don't have to sit through this crap.Originally posted by curiousEvery dog on the board winning or has already won. WTF?Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#766Tue, Jan 18
Miami -240 4.8 to win 2
Chicago -300 18 to win 6
These are early lines, if they are very different when some of the more major books post I will update them.Comment -
LtDementiaSBR High Roller
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#767Thanks - I took the moneyline though... I read somewhere that it was the better choice-Originally posted by curiousPortland 1Q -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
LTComment -
curiousRestricted User
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#768Where did you hear advice like that? That's crazy.Originally posted by LtDementiaThanks - I took the moneyline though... I read somewhere that it was the better choice-
LT
Good win.
I hope that everyone took my advice to double up on the later games after those first 3 games lost. You had a great day if you did that.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
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#769Mon Jan 17 NBA game results
1:00 PM Utah -165 1.65 to win 1 Loss -1.65
1:00 PM New York -280 5.6 to win 2 Loss -5.6
1:00 PM Memphis -195 3.9 to win 2 units Loss -3.9
2:00 PM Philly -220 7.7 to win 3.5 Win +3.5
3:00 PM New Orleans -400 20 to win 5 Win +5
3:00 PM Houston -200 4 to win 2 Win +2
3:30 PM Clippers -135 1.35 to win 1 Win +1
3:30 PM Detroit +5 -110 2.2 to win 2 Win +2
4:00 PM Atlanta -330 16.5 to win 5 Win +5
4:00 PM Golden State -330 14.85 to win 4.5 Win +4.5
8:00 PM Boston -150 4.5 to win 3 Win +3
10:00 PM Portland -350 21 to win 6 Win +6
10:30 PM Lakers -180 1.8 to win 1 Win +1
10-3 +21.5 UnitsComment -
curiousRestricted User
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#770I hope everyone doubled up on the later games
When I saw those 3 dogs lose at the beginning of the day I told everyone to double up on the late games. If you did that you won an extra 19 units. I know that if I put it in our record the crackheads will start complaining that I did not post those plays. Not sure why saying "double up on all the late games" is not a play. But, I am trying not to threaten people to kill them on here too often so I won't count those extra 19 units, just hoping that you guys LISTENED to me and made that profit.Comment
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